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Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 12:52 AM

Problems with swift lowering spring install
 
Im installing swifts and cant get this bolt to slide in lower strut on driver side. Any tips on to slide the bolt in easy . Also did you guys have to compress your new swift springs in order to install on strut, i had to compress my swifts in order to install
On struts. Any easier ways to slude this long bolt in on bottom of strut

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 01:15 AM

Any tips to get this bolt to slide in? Did you swift guys have to compress your new swift front springs to install on struts. I thought lowering springs didnt have to be compressed on strut

synolimit 03-24-2014 03:33 AM

First, type with spell check/proofreading.

Second, swift doesn't make junk " lowering springs". They make performace springs. Junk springs don't need compressed because they provide zero pre-load. You'll need a good 559 lbs to compress these since 1. They're linear springs. And 2. Proved proper pre-load.

Third, ever think about taking the endlink off the sway bar? Kinda hard to put it back cockeyed.

Forth, if you don't know these are a huge pain to compress for install...why would you be putting the endlink back into the hole? You're not at that point yet.

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 06:40 AM

I already placed the swifts on struts just having problems with sliding the bolt in on lower strut

flipcyder 03-24-2014 07:03 AM

Use a jack to get it into place.

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipcyder (Post 2750655)
Use a jack to get it into place.

I didn't have to do this on the Z, but it's worked for me on other vehicles. Go slow.

critical 03-24-2014 08:32 AM

you probably put the top hat on incorrectly. it needs to be aligned perfectly. get yourself a copy of the service manual.

kenchan 03-24-2014 10:29 AM

is your car on jackstands?

your front or rear needs to be equally level on both sides inorder to get the swaybar endlinks back on the car without forcing it.
btw, if you do force it in, your threads could shear off.

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 10:46 AM

Yea car on jackstands on driver side. One side is up

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pnoyz916 (Post 2750885)
Yea car on jackstands on driver side. One side is up

Why wouldn't you have the whole front end up in the air?

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 10:54 AM

How i jack up front i dnt c any jackpoints

kenchan 03-24-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pnoyz916 (Post 2750885)
Yea car on jackstands on driver side. One side is up

thats the problem. the torsion is working against you. raise the other side with your jack.

best way is to put your car on a ramp and tighten it with the vehicle load on it though.

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 10:54 AM

Because i jacked it up in the side

kenchan 03-24-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pnoyz916 (Post 2750900)
How i jack up front i dnt c any jackpoints

you didnt read my other post on your other thread. download the service manual before you damage your car or get yourself killed. :mad:

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 10:56 AM

Yeah, you're doing this all wrong. Jack the front end up.

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 10:58 AM

And do not try to use the jack on the lower arm to line things up until you have the whole front end off the ground.

Sh0velMan 03-24-2014 11:04 AM

If you can't figure out how to get the car completely in the air, take the car to someone more capable to get these springs installed.

You're going to hurt yourself.

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2750924)
If you can't figure out how to get the car completely in the air, take the car to someone more capable to get these springs installed.

You're going to hurt yourself.

:iagree:

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 11:21 AM

Thanks guys. Is it normal to compress front swift springs onto strut? I had to compress my swift to put on tophats

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 11:23 AM

Yes, compressing the springs is necessary unless the new springs are drastically shorter than OEM.

XiP 03-24-2014 11:26 AM

http://www.relativelyinteresting.com...rds-header.jpg

Sh0velMan 03-24-2014 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pnoyz916 (Post 2750952)
Thanks guys. Is it normal to compress front swift springs onto strut? I had to compress my swift to put on tophats

:facepalm:

Sh0velMan 03-24-2014 11:29 AM

It's also not a strut.

#suspensiontechnologynazi

saber 03-24-2014 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pnoyz916 (Post 2750952)
Thanks guys. Is it normal to compress front swift springs onto strut? I had to compress my swift to put on tophats

you....might want to read up a bit more on springs.

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 11:38 AM

Now should be when you call one of your buddies who has done this sort of job before. Having your front end disassemble itself at speed could get you or someone else hurt or killed.

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 11:38 AM

Im new to nissan scene , im used to slow hondas

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 11:39 AM

This issue you're having isn't brand specific.

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 11:49 AM

Ive done it before on hondas just not nissan.

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 11:49 AM

While only jacking up one side of the vehicle?

kenchan 03-24-2014 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pnoyz916 (Post 2751024)
Ive done it before on hondas just not nissan.

:ugh:

i doubt that... unless you're talking about a bike or something with no torsion bar. lol

N0SL3N 03-24-2014 11:57 AM

I used some DIY instructions on here and they were pretty thorough

Pnoyz916 03-24-2014 12:01 PM

I used diy from here . Not bike honda s2k

Sh0velMan 03-24-2014 12:37 PM

You can't do springs on this car with one side of the car still on the ground. The sway bars will make it very difficult to get it all back together and make it very dangerous to boot. Link me to this DIY that advises you to do what you are doing so that I can get it deleted.

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2751098)
You can't do springs on this car with one side of the car still on the ground. The sway bars will make it very difficult to get it all back together and make it very dangerous to boot. Link me to this DIY that advises you to do what you are doing so that I can get it deleted.

:iagree:

Yep. Plus, a S2K has the same style front suspension, doesn't it? So the "only jack up one side" method would be just as much of a fail as it is here?

BrandonSS 03-24-2014 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2751005)
This issue you're having isn't brand specific.

You can stop being a **** to the newb... he doesnt know where the proper jack point is in the front so yes, this is brand specific.

Newb, look under the car beyond the oil pan and belly pan. There is a flat surface surface that is connected to the front suspension and unibody, that is an appropriate jack point. It's hard to reach (nearly impossible) especially after being lowered.

http://passwordjdm.com/images/370z/28.jpg

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonSS (Post 2751171)
You can stop being a **** to the newb... he doesnt know where the proper jack point is in the front so yes, this is brand specific.

The need to have the whole front end off the ground isn't brand specific, not the jack points.

BrandonSS 03-24-2014 01:42 PM

I'm not going to argue but I have changed suspension on my gtp back in 1999'ish without lifting the entire front. Why? I was 18 with only 1 jack stand. Did I get it installed and is it still driving to this day, yup. Is it easier when lifting the entire front end? Of course.

There are nicer ways of responding to those lacking the know how regardless of how they claim to know things.

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonSS (Post 2751190)
I'm not going to argue but I have changed suspension on my gtp back in 1999'ish without lifting the entire front. Why? I was 18 with only 1 jack stand. Did I get it installed and is it still driving to this day, yup. Is it easier when lifting the entire front end? Of course.

There are nicer ways of responding to those lacking the know how regardless of how they claim to know things.

Did it work? Sure. Was it safe? **** no.

kenchan 03-24-2014 01:50 PM

:argue:

Sh0velMan 03-24-2014 01:57 PM

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So dudebro was nice enough to post a pic without indicating the proper lifting points, allow me to supply this helpfully annotated image.

The points that PWJDM used to lift the car are probably 'okay' and probably the only place they could reach without ******* up that nismo's body work (since they probably don't have lift adapters to clear the skirts), but they are not the Nissan-approved lifting points.

I have circled the Nissan-approved lift/side jacking points in green and circled the Nissan-approved 'shop jacking' points in blue. The front is a "nipple" or "bump" that sticks out in the front, the rear is the differential carrier.

Jack the front first with the parking brake set, transmission in gear and wheel chocks in place. Then lift the rear after the front is securely on jack stands placed at the Nissan-approved side jacking points (green circles) as far forward as possible. Place your rear jack stands at the rear side jacking points (green circles) as far rearward as possible.

Reverse the process to lower.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1395687435


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