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jooonnn 01-13-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2649918)
Depends on how much you want to spend. And how much flex you want to get rid of.


Ah i appreciate the reply rusty! I read almost all your threads in hopes to learn these things called "cars"! I have the nismo as well, Would you recommend a) the front camber arms and those bushings or b) getting something like swift springs. My goal is to increase overall control and "feel" of the car. Not sure which one is more value added! Ive spent a good bit of seat time now and i feel like id like to try the next step
Thanks for your help!


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Rusty 01-14-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2649932)
Ah i appreciate the reply rusty! I read almost all your threads in hopes to learn these things called "cars"! I have the nismo as well, Would you recommend a) the front camber arms and those bushings or b) getting something like swift springs. My goal is to increase overall control and "feel" of the car. Not sure which one is more value added! Ive spent a good bit of seat time now and i feel like id like to try the next step
Thanks for your help!


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What direction do you what to take the Nismo to? A better DD, DD with some track manners, track with some street manners, or track rat? Just be carefully for what you wish for. As you move up the line. You will be giving up somethings. ;)

jooonnn 01-14-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2650844)
What direction do you what to take the Nismo to? A better DD, DD with some track manners, track with some street manners, or track rat? Just be carefully for what you wish for. As you move up the line. You will be giving up somethings. ;)


Ideally a dd with some track manners (recently my DD got totaled :(). I autocross every now and then as well. I dont care TOO much about street ride comfort as i known its not a lexus. I definitely value a "planted" and "tacticle" feel.

Also, i fully know how theres no such thing as a cheap hobby unless your hobby is saving money haha


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Rusty 01-14-2014 05:33 PM

Because you autocross. You have to look at the rules and go by that.

jooonnn 01-14-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2651514)
Because you autocross. You have to look at the rules and go by that.


I honestly dont care about class in autocross since i only go there for the ability to have some fun with some friends, and most of the places local to me arent sanctioned by any organizations.


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Rusty 01-14-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2651847)
I honestly dont care about class in autocross since i only go there for the ability to have some fun with some friends, and most of the places local to me arent sanctioned by any organizations.


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Ok. Well then. Follow your wallet and heart. LOL My journal should give you an idea on things. :D

Rangerz 02-01-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2547379)
Now reassemble.

1st pic. I had a bolt sticking out of the fender on the right side that was hitting the control arm. I ground that bolt down so that the control arm could move freely.

2nd pic. You will find out now that you can freely put the ball joint out in place.

3rd pic. This is what it looks like finished. Before you tighten anything up. Make sure that the heim joints ARE positioned correctly :D

Good instructions. Just got mine on this afternoon. Only difference was if you don't lift both front tires off the gound like I did. You will find it much easier to drop the front sway bar in order to get the strut to rlease from the tower. They sure look good:ugh2:

Rusty 02-01-2014 09:44 PM

Thanks for the words. :tiphat: I had both front wheels removed when I did this, and removed the both end links from the sway bar first. It's the stock rubber bushings on the lower control arm not wanting to move that won't allow the coilover to drop out.

Rangerz 02-01-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerz (Post 2675634)
Good instructions. Just got mine on this afternoon. Only difference was if you don't lift both front tires off the gound like I did. You will find it much easier to drop the front sway bar in order to get the strut to release from the tower. They sure look good:ugh2:

Also the instructions say to align the hiem joints. The pics with mine were very dark. So just adding a pic to Rusty's showing the aligned joints.

[IMG]http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/a...psvtqf7oh0.jpg[/IMG]

Rangerz 02-24-2014 09:53 PM

Anybody else having the hiem joint rotate out of how they are supposed to be aligned? Seems to only hapen on the driver side. The rear most one. I torqued it down pretty good but! It still moves out of whack a little.

SPOHN 02-25-2014 06:04 AM

Mine has been fine. I'm sure it's ok. It's my rear end links I can't get right. They always rotate till they lock out.

Sh0velMan 02-25-2014 06:54 AM

Loctite red?

Sh0velMan 02-25-2014 06:57 AM

Sorry, Loctite blue. The one you can break loose.

Super Werty 06-11-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerz (Post 2706966)
Anybody else having the hiem joint rotate out of how they are supposed to be aligned? Seems to only hapen on the driver side. The rear most one. I torqued it down pretty good but! It still moves out of whack a little.

Did you ever figure this out?


And question for Rusty. Did the shop that pressed out the old bushing also have to press in the new ones? Or do they just slide right into the arm?

Rangerz 06-11-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 2855320)
Did you ever figure this out?


And question for Rusty. Did the shop that pressed out the old bushing also have to press in the new ones? Or do they just slide right into the arm?

Nope still happens but, not nearly as much. As part of a pre track weekend I reset the hiem joints takes about 10 min per side and retighten everything. I should probably call SPL and ask but, I haven't. I probably think it is a bigger deal than it really is....you would think the joints would align themselves to their natural location after the suspension moves through it's range of motion a couple of times.

still everyone that has looked at them for my HPDE inspection has commented on how well they are made and how "TRICK" those bad mo fo's are.:tup:

Super Werty 06-11-2014 08:15 PM

Can you take a picture of it misaligned. Im curious what it looks like

Rangerz 06-11-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 2855474)
Can you take a picture of it misaligned. Im curious what it looks like

Yep next time I get the front off the ground I snap a few

Rusty 06-13-2014 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 2855320)
Did you ever figure this out?


And question for Rusty. Did the shop that pressed out the old bushing also have to press in the new ones? Or do they just slide right into the arm?

You asking someone who has brain farts. LOL What I can remember, they slid on with little muscle.

Rangerz 06-22-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 2855320)
Did you ever figure this out?


And question for Rusty. Did the shop that pressed out the old bushing also have to press in the new ones? Or do they just slide right into the arm?

Just got done checking the suspension and breaks for next weekend track day. Again the hiem joints were out a bit. I re-torqued them down and in fairness the split ring clamp the one nearest the joint could have been tighter. I tightened everything back up about as tight as I dared and marked the arm and the adjustment nut to see if the adjustment nut side or the hiem joint side was the one moving. Here are some pics of how they were before I realigned them.

Driver side Front:
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/a...psfvsqka6h.jpg
Driver side Rear:
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/a...psnuggjjsm.jpg
Passenger side:
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/a...psoc8ua6br.jpg

Super Werty 06-22-2014 05:07 PM

That doesnt look right being all twisted in there...weird

Rusty 06-28-2014 05:48 PM

I checked my heim joints yesterday when I put my AM Perf oil pan on. My heim joints are still straight.

sixpax 06-29-2014 07:15 AM

you got the front tie rod ends as well ?

Rusty 06-29-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sixpax (Post 2878274)
you got the front tie rod ends as well ?

You mean the sway bar links? Far as I know. SPL doesn't make tie rod ends.

Masterbeatty 06-29-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2878521)
You mean the sway bar links? Far as I know. SPL doesn't make tie rod ends.

They do now. I was on their website yesterday eye humping the diff bushing kit.

I just checked again they don't. I must have clicked on the 350z page.

sixpax 06-30-2014 08:59 AM

SPL Front Outer Tie Rod Ends 370Z / G37

martin82 06-30-2014 11:49 PM

Crap that's the only thing I don't have

ilovegirls 10-05-2014 12:22 AM

Why do the joints get twisted up like that?

Rusty 10-05-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovegirls (Post 2989123)
Why do the joints get twisted up like that?

Think when they tighten up the bolts. The adjusters are in that postion to begin with. Never taking the time to straighten them out. When I had the Z aligned. The guy straighten them out, and they haven't move since.

SurfDog 10-15-2014 11:25 PM

Found it. Thanks I'm starting tomorrow.

littlejuanito 02-04-2017 12:34 PM

How are these SPL arms holding up so far Rusty?

Rusty 02-04-2017 12:40 PM

No issues so far. 15,000 miles and 20+ trackdays. :driving:

littlejuanito 02-04-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3611820)
No issues so far. 15,000 miles and 20+ trackdays. :driving:

Seems I'm gonna go the SPL route. The horrible stories I read about the SPC's, kinetic, and even Z1's very own FUCA's have leave me no choice but to spend more money once and not have to deal with issues later. Wished these SPL's were a little cheaper but oh well... at least they're worth it. Any other SPL parts you recommend?

Rusty 02-04-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3611821)
Seems I'm gonna go the SPL route. The horrible stories I read about the SPC's, kinetic, and even Z1's very own FUCA's have leave me no choice but to spend more money once and not have to deal with issues later. Wished these SPL's were a little cheaper but oh well... at least they're worth it. Any other SPL parts you recommend?

All of the SPL catalog. :icon17:

OptionZero 02-04-2017 01:59 PM

Call SPL, tell them you have a Z34 and want everything. Then give them your credit card and be happy.

No, seriously, my alignment guy (who does all sorts of drift and race cars) was RAVING about how he uses SPL on all the shop cars, how its so much more enjoyable doing cars with SPL stuff.

They have a locking system that makes life a breeze. Full setup let you adjust everything and durable as hell.

Best part, once you have all the arms your wheel options are essentially limitless.

Practically speaking, the fronts are what you NEED. The rear of the Z has enough clearance stock camber spec is gonna be fine on most setups.

But if you're getting coilovers put on and adjusting height you might as well throw all the arms and do it right the first time

littlejuanito 02-04-2017 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3611832)
Call SPL, tell them you have a Z34 and want everything. Then give them your credit card and be happy.

No, seriously, my alignment guy (who does all sorts of drift and race cars) was RAVING about how he uses SPL on all the shop cars, how its so much more enjoyable doing cars with SPL stuff.

They have a locking system that makes life a breeze. Full setup let you adjust everything and durable as hell.

Best part, once you have all the arms your wheel options are essentially limitless.

Practically speaking, the fronts are what you NEED. The rear of the Z has enough clearance stock camber spec is gonna be fine on most setups.

But if you're getting coilovers put on and adjusting height you might as well throw all the arms and do it right the first time

Yeah all the SPL stuff looks amazing :yum:

And I do have Powertrix Coilover already but couldn't do it all at once. I Wished I would have. Anyhow, I'm in dire need of front camber arms as I'm not symmmetrical on my camber readings... I'm actually off .7 degrees left from right and the car does not handle as I'd like.

I was able to get the rear within specs so I'm good on that end.

cv129 02-04-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3611827)
All of the SPL catalog. :icon17:

Like a BOSS!

nomodsjk 02-04-2017 07:25 PM

I recently ordered the entire spl line up from A to Z...along with dss axels, an os. Giken diff and new tires..i can't wait to get my car back so i can feel the difference. This post is awesome. Great write up...rep'd

littlejuanito 02-04-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 3611991)
I recently ordered the entire spl line up from A to Z...along with dss axels, an os. Giken diff and new tires..i can't wait to get my car back so i can feel the difference. This post is awesome. Great write up...rep'd

How much did the whole catalog ran you?

Rusty 02-04-2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 3611991)
I recently ordered the entire spl line up from A to Z...along with dss axels, an os. Giken diff and new tires..i can't wait to get my car back so i can feel the difference. This post is awesome. Great write up...rep'd

Thank you! :tiphat:

littlejuanito 02-05-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3611827)
All of the SPL catalog. :icon17:

I wished I had the money to blow on the whole catalog but nonetheless, are there any specific items you recommend I buy on front suspension, besides the upper arms? Tie rods? Impact bushings?

Thanks in advance Rusty :tiphat:


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