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Coilovers
I just purchases Stance Super Sport coilovers and I should be getting this sometime next week. I was told that this is all I need to drop my Z even though it seems like everyone on here that has coilovers also get chamber kits/control arms.
So, do I or do I not need chamber kits/control arms? I only intend to lower the height enough to close the gap between the tires and the fenders. |
Rear camber kits with toe bolts is recommended to have more adjustments of the rear camber...tires are pretty expensive :tup:
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Camer kits always help with tire wear. Just have to be cautious on the clearance on fenders when your doing it. Rolling may be a good idea.
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It depends.
If you want factory settings and you drop the car you will 100% need camber kits. If you don't drop and leave it factory height or near factory you could get away with OEM stuff and still be in spec. If you bought coilovers for the right reason (for what they were intended) then you will lower and be 100% out of spec. However OEM spec sucks azz as a proper setup!! You could get lucky and lower and be at a perfect setup for what coilovers were intended (kind of a race setup). It all depends on your final goals. I will say this though...the left and right side normally never match so one way or another you will need everything so everything is even and set properly. |
Rear camber with toe, front control arms gave me peace of mind. Why not just do it all at once and be done if you can. Well worth every penny, my man is sitting just right.
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I just spoke with a friend of mine that has a Nismo. He lowered his Z with coilovers and no chamber kits or control arms. I know the Nismo suspension components are different from the touring sports package Z, but is there that much of a difference that will make getting chamber kits an absolute necessity?
All I want to do for the time being is lower the height. I will not race the car, but I might take it on a track someday just for the experience. |
If you lower the car you may want the camber kit. Not having it will effect tirewear also if its not slightly tucked and you hit a speedbump wrong you could mushroom your fenders. Thode are mostlikely the two most common needs for camber kits.
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Did you have to get your tires tilted inward in order for them to clear the fenders when you dropped it?
I have 20mm spacers all around and I still remember you telling me to go with 25mm on the rear. I'm going to stick with the 20mm because the tires are right inline with the fenders. Quote:
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Is there a certain camber kit you would recommend?
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I got kinetix. I have fronts only and have close to 33k and love em. The stock bushings were shot at 22k lol. They are greasable bushings which I like. I think they are a solid setup. I cant speak on the rears but im sure they are great. Z1motorsports sells the front and rear as a set also.
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My friend that recommend the Stance to me insists that I do not need chambering kits because the Super Sports have chamber plates installed. I'm assuming the + would also have this. So I'm going to go ahead and install just the coilovers sometime next week. Afterwards, I will get an alignment and if I run into any issues because of the stock suspension components then I will look into chamber kits. I will give an update after it's done.
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So I finally installed the coilovers and my friend that said that I would not need camber kits was wrong and all of you here are right. I did get Kinetics rear camber and traction kit just to be on the safe side and I am now about to buy a camber kit for the front since Stance only makes the front coilovers with built in camber plate for vehicles with McPherson type suspension. Yes I should have been able to figure this out prior to installing the coilovers but the same friend said it had the front camber plate.
The shop that did the install pretty much set it to the lowest. It did look great but I scraped the mid section of the exhaust pipe really hard while going into my own garage. So I had to raise it up about an inch. Once I get the front camber kit I will do another alignment and I should be able to get everything back to spec. |
pics!!....i want to see how low your car is!!
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You can look at my photo album to see it on the alignment lift. It's not the best pic but you can somewhat see how low it was. I will post pics showing the current height soon.
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ok thanks!!
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Jesus Christ, -5.0 rear? Shoot your friend.
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I'd say it's about time to stop listening to that friend as far as car mods go.
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The rear has a camber kit. The guy that did the alignment said that's the best he could do with it being so low. I should be able to get everything in the green with the next alignment.
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Wait- you have camber arms installed in the rear and can only get -5.0?
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Done.
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Yes. The tires would have been right up against the fenders if the guy tried to get closer to zero. Does this not sound right to you? Should I find another shop to do my alignment?
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Are you running aftermarket wheels and tires? If you're on stock wheels and tires and he can't get the alignment right with camber arms and toe bolts installed, I'd try another place.
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I have stock wheels and tires. I also have 20mm spacers installed. I'm sure the camber would have been better if they were off.
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I can't see those spacers making that big of a difference in camber. I'd go try another alignment shop.
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Ok. Once I get the front camber kit I will try another shop.
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I posted two pics in my photo album.
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rear looks too low. like a signature tanabe boat look.
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Thanks Kenchan. I like the way the rear looks but I can't set the front at the same height because it will rub against the wheel well. There is a half of an inch difference between the rear and the front but I will get rid of the boat look this weekend.
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it could be your picture, but yah, the rear could go up another 1/4" or so. unless you run like 19x11's or 19x11.5's and make it super flush with dumbarse camber, it might loook okay. car will run like shitt though.
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I'm confused I guess. I have Stance coilovers on mine plus the 20mm spacers and really wished I had gone with the 25 cause I still have space and mine are back to factory specs using the Stance toe and camber arms.
Mine are setup even all the way around... http://www.the370z.com/members/highw...er-carwash.jpg |
How low are you? I was pretty much at the lowest setting and the tires were barely clearing the fender. Then again it could be the guy that did the alignment did not know what he was doing. Once I raise the back and get the front camber kit I will do another alignment at a different shop. I should be able to get to factory specs at the new height.
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I am also at 26" in the rear right now with a lot more room than what I had when it was lower. The height was between 24½"-25" when the shop installed the coil overs.
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Also had to cut the little nub inside the wheel well and then bend the clip that is underneath it to help with the rubbing. |
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