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AP - Chris_B 01-09-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 887418)
probably madly expensive :roflpuke2:

It depends what you mean by expensive. Those pictures are showing top-level, professional motorsports calipers. Since losing usually costs a lot more than winning, those end up being darn cheap!

Let's just say that if something new were developed for street/track day cars, the price would naturally have to be in line with what people are generally willing to pay. We don't get too many requests for $30k brakes for a 370Z, so I don't think we will be going there any time soon. But that doesn't mean we can't come up with something in a reasonable price range that could blow your hair back!

crash1369 01-09-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 887130)
I don't think it's rotors.. *cough* *cough*..

and i dont have specifics.. but can't imagine it wouldn't be attached to some old-school press releases.. STILLEN : AP Racing Unveils Revolutionary New Brake Caliper Design

http://www.stillen.com/images/upload...8_1024wide.jpg

http://www.apracing.com/pics/productpics/cp6160_1.jpg

AP - Chris can elaborate.. or hunt me down.. he opened the door.. :tiphat:

:tup: You're killing me... :excited:

This car was supposed to be saving me money :rofl2: Can't wait to see this stuff once it comes out. As much as I want it though I have a feeling it's gonna be way to much money to justify, we'll see I guess :yum:

Vegitto-kun 01-09-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AP - Chris_B (Post 887463)
It depends what you mean by expensive. Those pictures are showing top-level, professional motorsports calipers. Since losing usually costs a lot more than winning, those end up being darn cheap!

Let's just say that if something new were developed for street/track day cars, the price would naturally have to be in line with what people are generally willing to pay. We don't get too many requests for $30k brakes for a 370Z, so I don't think we will be going there any time soon. But that doesn't mean we can't come up with something in a reasonable price range that could blow your hair back!

you are from AP?

Just wanting to say good job. my parents love their J-hook rotors for their GT-R

christian370z 01-09-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AP - Chris_B (Post 887463)
It depends what you mean by expensive. Those pictures are showing top-level, professional motorsports calipers. Since losing usually costs a lot more than winning, those end up being darn cheap!

Let's just say that if something new were developed for street/track day cars, the price would naturally have to be in line with what people are generally willing to pay. We don't get too many requests for $30k brakes for a 370Z, so I don't think we will be going there any time soon. But that doesn't mean we can't come up with something in a reasonable price range that could blow your hair back!

I love that first line about winning, I am definitely saving that for future reference! One thing I have always admired is how you offer advice with no BS or product pushing, plus you have a huge amount of know how and it shows.

Those calipers posted are pure sex.

Josh@STILLEN 01-09-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AP - Chris_B (Post 887463)
But that doesn't mean we can't come up with something in a reasonable price range that could blow your hair back!

I think you mean blow your hair forward? It is brakes after all..

AP - Chris_B 01-11-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 887873)
I think you mean blow your hair forward? It is brakes after all..

This is a cruel discussion for any of our folically challenged friends...:rolleyes:

RCZ 01-11-2011 07:41 PM

why must you torment me like this Josh.

ChrisSlicks 01-11-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 890257)
why must you torment me like this Josh.

It's his job. ;)

RCZ 01-11-2011 10:17 PM

Yeah and Chris is the biggest instigator of all time!

crash1369 01-12-2011 06:29 AM

:iagree:
:rofl2:

Skeeterbop 01-13-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Valentino (Post 167733)
Congratulation on this marvels BBK. You got one of the best. if not the best.:tup:



I don't think cross-drilled are for looks. I think that cold air inter the vent in between the disk,and hot air exits the disk throe the holes. and i also think it's good for wet weather. their lighter too.

cross-drilled also have their down side. they crack.

I don't really want to turn this into a debate. but i searched and found this nice write up Cross Drilled VS Slotted Rotors

Valantino


Corect me if I'm wrong, but I could have sworn that the original purpose of the slotted and cross drilled rotors was originally to help with degassing. Back in the day when the pads would heat up the slots and holes would give the gas from the pads somewhere to escape which helped prevent a decrease in breaking performance. Also from what I've been reading, is that the slots still help keep pads clean, but the original reason of the slots and hole isn't really needed with pretty much any street pad any more and would generally be for looks more than anything else. Again I could be wrong and if so feel free to correct me. Also I'm assuming that since these fit the sport package equipped 370 it will also fit the NISMO model as well.

AP - Chris_B 01-13-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop (Post 893195)
Corect me if I'm wrong, but I could have sworn that the original purpose of the slotted and cross drilled rotors was originally to help with degassing. Back in the day when the pads would heat up the slots and holes would give the gas from the pads somewhere to escape which helped prevent a decrease in breaking performance. Also from what I've been reading, is that the slots still help keep pads clean, but the original reason of the slots and hole isn't really needed with pretty much any street pad any more and would generally be for looks more than anything else. Again I could be wrong and if so feel free to correct me. Also I'm assuming that since these fit the sport package equipped 370 it will also fit the NISMO model as well.

I am going to have to sit down soon and do a full, top/down write-up on this topic. In the meantime, I'll say that cross-drilling was developed initially a long time ago to reduce rotor weight. Benefits that were discovered were increased pad bite (more leading edges), better wet performance, (slightly) better cooling and elimination of pad off-gassing effects.

Pads today off-gas very little -- at least after their initial green bedding. But the other benefits remain. They are not ideal for racing or hard track use as the holes add stress risers, which can result in premature cracking. But for street and high-performance use, QUALITY drilled rotors usually perform great.

Looks? Well, that's up to you!

Vegitto-kun 01-13-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AP - Chris_B (Post 893515)
I am going to have to sit down soon and do a full, top/down write-up on this topic. In the meantime, I'll say that cross-drilling was developed initially a long time ago to reduce rotor weight. Benefits that were discovered were increased pad bite (more leading edges), better wet performance, (slightly) better cooling and elimination of pad off-gassing effects.

Pads today off-gas very little -- at least after their initial green bedding. But the other benefits remain. They are not ideal for racing or hard track use as the holes add stress risers, which can result in premature cracking. But for street and high-performance use, QUALITY drilled rotors usually perform great.

Looks? Well, that's up to you!

drillers rotors are bleh.

one full day of francorchamp spa tracking and our GT-R's rotors were cracking. so we went AP racing J-hooks. :tiphat:and extremely pleased

AP - Chris_B 01-13-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 893562)
drillers rotors are bleh.

one full day of francorchamp spa tracking and our GT-R's rotors were cracking. so we went AP racing J-hooks. :tiphat:and extremely pleased

Glad you are enjoying them! The J-Hooks have been a big success for many GT-R owners.

Skeeterbop 01-13-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AP - Chris_B (Post 893515)
I am going to have to sit down soon and do a full, top/down write-up on this topic. In the meantime, I'll say that cross-drilling was developed initially a long time ago to reduce rotor weight. Benefits that were discovered were increased pad bite (more leading edges), better wet performance, (slightly) better cooling and elimination of pad off-gassing effects.

Pads today off-gas very little -- at least after their initial green bedding. But the other benefits remain. They are not ideal for racing or hard track use as the holes add stress risers, which can result in premature cracking. But for street and high-performance use, QUALITY drilled rotors usually perform great.

Looks? Well, that's up to you!

That would be awesome. I'm up for learning what ever I can


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