It's very common to have to trim the backing plates on large aftermarket BBK's. No surprise there really. The rotor is just massively thick, and without a trim of the OEM dust shield, it will touch.

On the 350Z kits, all of the large BBK's require trimming, but it really only takes a few extra moments to do it.

Comp GRey too! Very nice

Same set-up were running on Project Z.

Are you still running the factory pad's that came w/ the calipers?

Were in the process of swapping out to more aggressive pad's for circuit duty. Found the factory AP''s to be a little on the soft side for hotlaping.

Have you tired any other pad's w/ your set-up yet?

Congrats on the geat upgrade!

:tiphat:

Thanks for weighing in Sharif

Hey Paul, thanks... nope... still on the mintex extreme pads that came with the kit... they are oh so street friendly... looking forward to trying out some new pads and was planning to time that with my move to stickies... which pads have you tried?

Hey Travis,

Awesome job with the kit and it looks awesome. These are the 2 piece rotors right?? Just asking for clarification, but I wanted to ask if you would recommend different pads and brake lines to go with the kit for street use cause I am getting the kit (boy is my wallet gonna be light) and I want to know if it is a good choice from a professional. Just want to know if pads like Hawk and lines from Goodridge would work well on the street with this kit...Again awesome kit...

The kit comes with 2-piece rotors, the fronts have aluminum hats, the rears have cast iron because of the e-brake.

The Mintex Xtreme pads will work ok on the street but they will dust a fair bit as they are moderately aggressive pads. If you do a lot of street driving you might want a second set to swap in.

The kit also comes with Goodridge SS lines for all 4 corners. SS lines have only positive effects, there will be no detriment on the street.

Chris nailed it

I'll have more to report on pad alternatives in coming months... my car has been laid up a while, so no track time other than on the mintex extreme

Did you have any trouble with swapping out brake lines,..my Subie always had tough connectors to unbolt from the hard lines that even brake wrench would still slip...

Thanks man, great info, lol didn't know the kit already came with SS lines, but I'll consider buying some hawk performance pads or I'll just wait to see what travis is doing....

What I'm considering:
AP Racing itself just released a new line of brake pads
Worth experimenting with the Hawk pads of course
And Stillen has some strong opinions and good expertise in this area - I need to call them up and get their thoughts...

At certain levels, the pads you select will depend on the course you are running, so it's hard to make a blanket recommendation... just something to keep in mind

But remember the calipers are designed to make it extremely easy to swap pads, so you can run a street pad to the track, swap in the track pads that wouldn't function on the street, bed them in, and you're off and running.

And with the caliper style, as Travis mentioned, there are a ton of pad options that can be used, even for the various styles of tracks.

Some pads have more initial bite, some higher temperatures, all kinds of variables. We have a knowledgeable staff that can guide you through some recommendations.

Travis, what r ur thoughts on the AP Racing's APF405 Brake pads. It is their top high performance street pad and do you have any info on that?? There's so little info about the pads or places to buy them that I'm not even sure that they're out yet...They do have somewhat good info on the AP racing website and I thought these pads will go will with the AP racing kit....So any thoughts??

i'm looking at the new AP Racing pads and will at some point try them... I'll prob be going for the 402s - more track oriented... i've received some advice that there are better compounds - but it's worth trying out diff pads until you find the ones that work for you in different conditions (a given track for example)

all, be sure to check out Chris' new DIY thread on this same BBK !
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...tml#post386017

Sounds like a plan...

I'll stick with my hawk pads until you or someone else tries out the AP racing pads

thanks for checking in, i'll be sure to update here later once I get some time on new pads

18" Wheels
 

Hey Travis, Quick Question....Do you think the AP racing brakes will clear 18" wheels like CE28ns???

^ probably.

Zombie Thread.

They clear my 18" forgestars but the only way to know on the others is to email Stillen and ask them to send you a template / cad drawing... then send that to wheel mfgr or distributor and verify... you might also ask Stillen if they know anyone that has installed them with CE28ns successfully

I don't have a record on file showing that particular wheel works or not. Here is the template:

http://www.stillen.com/product_files/AP5700~profile.pdf

If you can't get it checked, send me PM and I'll chase it down.

Cool, It does seem to feet, Thanks guys...u were fast...

Anyone know how these stack up with StopTech BBK?

Can you elaborate on what criteria you are most interested in? AP Racing kits have been offered for various Nissan vehicles since the 300ZX, and specifically for the 370Z since before it was sold to the public. There are a few different options currently available, along with a new, mind-blowing option that should be arriving in the Spring (fingers crossed!).

While both companies offer systems that are well-balanced mechanically, the thermal front/rear balance of the AP Racing system is currently unmatched. If you ever plan on tracking the car, this fact alone will make pad selection much less complicated when going to different tracks and running in different conditions (dry, wet, hot, cold, green track, etc.). Using too heavy of a disc on the rear is not really a problem on the street, but it does not make much sense for performance use. Not only do you get to drag around all that unnecessary weight, but the temperature rise is much more different front to rear that it would otherwise need to be. As we have also seen on the R35 GT-R, running rear brake temps that are too low creates a situation where the car can be optimized at one end of the temperature spectrum or the other, but not both.

Describe how you plan on using the car and I can offer up what I know from experience with this platform. Others will probably also chime in with their results. With all that, you will probably be in a better place to make an informed decision.

my parents put these on their GT-R about 4 months ago

http://www.stillen.com/product_images/NIS3900J.jpg

along with uber hard brake pads for track days and softer ones for daily driving.

the hard ones almost tore my face off :roflpuke2:

I might get a brake upgrade when my current pads are worn out

I'm with Chris on this....The AP Racing BBK is a better full package. The big thing for me in the AP brakes is the weight. They are very light: calipers and rotors. Performance wise: I really liked the braking with the AP racing BBK when I drove my friend's car. It had good feel through the pedal and great performance without wear. I have also driven a car with Stoptechs and I can say that the one thing that stoptechs have are stiffer calipers, which do help in feel and performance on the track, but as an overall package AP all the way....

Sickness.

How about a hint? Are we talking carbon rotors here?!? :excited:

They can be done.. and while carbon ceramic matrix rotors would potentially last the life of the car.. there is a price that comes with it. Unfortunately the volume with the 370Z owner probably wouldn't justify it.. :/

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2555321_n.jpg

http://www.stillen.com/product_images/APCC1000.jpg

What Chris is talking about is with traditional iron rotors.. but some really wicked design changes with other components.. and I've probably said too much..

@Chris: Now that I have a daily driver, the Z will become my weekend/track toy car. From what it sounds like with the advantages in weight and thermal properties AP sounds like a good choice... Are there any positive points to the StopTechs at all? They are more expensive but thats not always justfied by performance...

Oh you better believe I was already looking at those :rofl2: ... but as much as I'd like to I can't really justify 50% of the cars value in brakes alone :eekdance: Although if they would really last forever that would help, is that actually a realistic expectation, they would probably see mainly street use anyway.
Those are the GT-R brakes right, would they fit a 370Z?

Seems there are quite a few people with secrets on this board, I need to get on the inside track... I don't have the patience to wait until spring, but I will be waiting to see just how much they can change brake rotors.

I'm about to ditch my e-brake and still looking for lighter weight hat option on rears...

You don't have to.. We have the AP Racing track rears which allow you to use the e-brake as long as it's in a parking brake use.. due to the aluminum (and super lightweight variety) hat..

I was asked to create a separate thread and I haven't.. but you're good to go with the lightweight rotor/hat assembly that works with your current caliper.. with no changes to the e-brake..

I don't think it's rotors.. *cough* *cough*..

and i dont have specifics.. but can't imagine it wouldn't be attached to some old-school press releases.. STILLEN : AP Racing Unveils Revolutionary New Brake Caliper Design

http://www.stillen.com/images/upload...8_1024wide.jpg

http://www.apracing.com/pics/productpics/cp6160_1.jpg

AP - Chris can elaborate.. or hunt me down.. he opened the door.. :tiphat:

those look beautifull maybe il wait and see what the "suprise" is instead of looking for the current AP racing BBK.

Looks like art. Looks expensive :)

probably madly expensive :roflpuke2:

I would not be a good source to comment on the S-T's, but from what I hear from people who have tried both (and others), they are very satisfied with their purchase of AP's.

AP Racing has been making brake systems and braking components for around 100 years in total. Since 1967, they have over 660 wins in Formula 1 and supplied 10 of the 12 teams in 2010. Many of the advantages learned over the years are pretty hard to detect, but make measurable performance gains. Don't be fooled by over-simplified and questionable marketing graphs -- the true measure of braking performance is from behind the steering wheel. And from that vantage point, the true benefits of an AP Racing brake system cannot be denied.

It depends what you mean by expensive. Those pictures are showing top-level, professional motorsports calipers. Since losing usually costs a lot more than winning, those end up being darn cheap!

Let's just say that if something new were developed for street/track day cars, the price would naturally have to be in line with what people are generally willing to pay. We don't get too many requests for $30k brakes for a 370Z, so I don't think we will be going there any time soon. But that doesn't mean we can't come up with something in a reasonable price range that could blow your hair back!

:tup: You're killing me... :excited:

This car was supposed to be saving me money :rofl2: Can't wait to see this stuff once it comes out. As much as I want it though I have a feeling it's gonna be way to much money to justify, we'll see I guess :yum:

you are from AP?

Just wanting to say good job. my parents love their J-hook rotors for their GT-R

I love that first line about winning, I am definitely saving that for future reference! One thing I have always admired is how you offer advice with no BS or product pushing, plus you have a huge amount of know how and it shows.

Those calipers posted are pure sex.

I think you mean blow your hair forward? It is brakes after all..