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2theextreme 09-04-2009 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 185711)
could someone throw up that flash image of willy wonka going "you lose, good day sir"

This?

http://www.invisiblebirds.com/rmtimg/gooddaysir.gif

1slow370 09-05-2009 03:41 AM

yeah but they have one with big white wordson it. i saw it in a thread here a couple days ago but i forgot what the thread was about.

ZCarMan 09-05-2009 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 184673)
really? no v2 made for the 370z? then why does that yellow 370z the guy posted on here have them?

Thats toohip, and he'll tell you that the Altered page has it incorrect and he had the variant 3 installed. But to make sure I'd just pm him and ask or he'll see this and post as well.

2theextreme 09-05-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 186905)
yeah but they have one with big white wordson it. i saw it in a thread here a couple days ago but i forgot what the thread was about.

Perhaps this?

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...WillyWonka.jpg

B1nks 09-05-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 186944)
Thats toohip, and he'll tell you that the Altered page has it incorrect and he had the variant 3 installed. But to make sure I'd just pm him and ask or he'll see this and post as well.

Yeah I looked on the page and having owned a set of V3(and loving them) on my 350z I can say those are not the V3 because they don't have the external reservoir thing on the rears.:tup:

ALSO as soon as the V3 come out someone let me know so I can buy them.

Z1Performance 09-05-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 187000)
Yeah I looked on the page and having owned a set of V3(and loving them) on my 350z I can say those are not the V3 because they don't have the external reservoir thing on the rears.:tup:

ALSO as soon as the V3 come out someone let me know so I can buy them.

but this isn't a 350Z, and the dampers are different

The G37 and 370Z ones interchange

B1nks 09-05-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1Performance (Post 187022)
but this isn't a 350Z, and the dampers are different

The G37 and 370Z ones interchange

Yeah but even on other vehicle the 3's have the external reservoir(on the ones i've seen) Aren't KW coilovers shock dyno'd for each vehicle application ? So if I buy them for the g37 they wouldn't be the same for the 370z would it since they have difference body styles and such ?

Z1Performance 09-05-2009 04:55 PM

370Z's and G37's are nearly identical cars - same platform, same suspension

Some V3's have resevoirs, some don't, it's application specific

The G37 and 370Z do not have external resevoirs

Anyway, I just got the email about the v3 for the 370Z. Height range is the same as the G37, I'd imagine the rates are the same too, but being the holiday, I have no way to find out.

B1nks 09-05-2009 07:21 PM

Price me

Z1Performance 09-05-2009 07:27 PM

http://www.the370z.com/z1-performanc...ver-combo.html

:)

B1nks 09-06-2009 12:20 AM

so ^^that is for the 370z specific ones ?

tooohip 09-06-2009 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 186944)
Thats toohip, and he'll tell you that the Altered page has it incorrect and he had the variant 3 installed. But to make sure I'd just pm him and ask or he'll see this and post as well.

What can I say? They were sold to me as KW V3's. The box says KW V3...

Not sure what more I can add???

Oh and they just kicked the Dragon's ***! ;-)

ZCarMan 09-06-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tooohip (Post 187556)
What can I say? They were sold to me as KW V3's. The box says KW V3...

Not sure what more I can add???

Oh and they just kicked the Dragon's ***! ;-)

Great pics!

tooohip 09-06-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 187807)
Great pics!

Yeah it's fun to see your car on the dragon. I'm waiting for Killboy's pics to be posted as well as Zeefoto.

Nismo 370z 09-08-2009 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 183850)
dude, stop being a *******. its a simple god damn question, you dont like get the hell out. cause i curious. why the hell does anyone ask anything?

Aww is that time of the month again? Lol seriously man why do u keep asking such noob questions. Use the search function. Also google is a far more powerful tool than using it for porn. Good day sir!:tiphat:

mrmixitup 09-09-2009 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 164325)
ok, so it looks like the main difference in the front suspension between the 350 and 370z is the 350z is a single wishbone and 370z is double wishbone?? u say they are basically the same, but i hear that the 370z is actually a large improvemnet in the front suspension compared to the 350. i have read many reviews that state this.

Holy moly. Shouldn't you be more concerned with butterfly screws, your catalytic converters breaking apart and going back into the engine, your trunk leaking, your headgasket blowing, your transmission grinding, your paint peeling and your knock sensor pulling power than complex suspension questions about two cars you don't even own?

:rolleyes:

kannibul 09-09-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 159053)
Well..."Technically" it is as the coil springs are mounted over the shocks in an assembly. "coilover" has come to mean adjustable in today's suspension jargon.
In the back, the oem or replacement can no way be called coilovers as they are separate parts yet the terminology continues for Performance/adjustable components..

Plus rep point for that one...

Solus 09-19-2009 01:28 PM

noob question
 
I am under the impression w/ springs you need to get a camber kit but w/ coilovers you don't.. am i off in never never land or is that the general consensus?

Modshack 09-19-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Solus (Post 204844)
I am under the impression w/ springs you need to get a camber kit but w/ coilovers you don't.. am i off in never never land or is that the general consensus?

The need for a camber kit is determined by the amount of drop...Most springs and Coilovers start at least 1" lower so a kit will most likely be needed with either..

Z1Performance 09-19-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Solus (Post 204844)
I am under the impression w/ springs you need to get a camber kit but w/ coilovers you don't.. am i off in never never land or is that the general consensus?

Not the case on this car - once you lower the car, sometimes even as little as 1/2 inch, at least an aftermarket rear camber/toe kit is required to bring things back to spec. Up front, the car can deal with, and actually likes, a bit more negative camber. I have not yet seen a proper front a arm set for these cars, but there will be some good, solid options available soon. For the rear, there are several good kits available

bmarcinczyk14 09-20-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmixitup (Post 191065)
Holy moly. Shouldn't you be more concerned with butterfly screws, your catalytic converters breaking apart and going back into the engine, your trunk leaking, your headgasket blowing, your transmission grinding, your paint peeling and your knock sensor pulling power than complex suspension questions about two cars you don't even own?

:rolleyes:

already loctited my butterfles, already got a catless header, changed out my tranny fluid with bg syncroshift II and no grinding what so ever, my paint is perfect, take very good care of that, and my HG is already well past the mileage they typically blow at. lol, how do u know all about my car?

B1nks 09-21-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 206400)
already loctited my butterfles, already got a catless header, changed out my tranny fluid with bg syncroshift II and no grinding what so ever, my paint is perfect, take very good care of that, and my HG is already well past the mileage they typically blow at. lol, how do u know all about my car?

ha !

Valentino 09-21-2009 04:20 PM

Guys can we keep this post clean .. plz?

You can chat to each other via Private Massages.

Dek25ive 10-26-2009 04:02 PM

So would you go with KW3's or Teins Flex for a DD with occasional track use? Also do the KW3's have any type of electronic control?

Z1Performance 10-26-2009 05:01 PM

electronic dampening control is not a feature on the KW

define "occassional track" - club days, stock type tires? Or are you talking about more advanced groups with r compounds?

Tein Flex wouldn't be anywhere near my radar

Pointman 10-27-2009 12:30 AM

Price request for the V3's please.

Robispec 11-05-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 154564)
i dont understand how a suspension can be more comfortable than the other, and still provide superior handling. usually to get a good handling car, the suspension needs to be stiffer than stock to provide that improved handling, therefore sacrificing ride quality. it almost seems impossible to me to get a softer feeling suspension to handle better than the other.

it's a $$$ issue....you can get the best of both worlds...it just costs more..

de_dust 11-06-2009 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Robispec (Post 268757)
it's a $$$ issue....you can get the best of both worlds...it just costs more..

yo u mentioned that the robispec 370z is running kw v3 with straight rate springs. so just to clarify that means you got rid of the progressive spring rate? what did u end up having set the compression and rebound of ur kw's at?

tooohip 11-07-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by de_dust (Post 268829)
yo u mentioned that the robispec 370z is running kw v3 with straight rate springs. so just to clarify that means you got rid of the progressive spring rate? what did u end up having set the compression and rebound of ur kw's at?

What ever happened to the American Education system anyway...

Sigh...

:ugh2:

de_dust 11-07-2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tooohip (Post 270491)
What ever happened to the American Education system anyway...

Sigh...

:ugh2:

dont understand whats with the haterade but i guess during ur time the "American Education" system was teaching you how to use smileys to convey expression and the need to use formal writing skills in a colloquial environment...

vipor 11-07-2009 02:16 AM

Terrorists Win!

Robispec 11-07-2009 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by de_dust (Post 268829)
yo u mentioned that the robispec 370z is running kw v3 with straight rate springs. so just to clarify that means you got rid of the progressive spring rate? what did u end up having set the compression and rebound of ur kw's at?

I kept the compression as dynoed in the middle (one turn) from full stiff the rebound I added a .25 turn to the stock settings....front and rear. This is giving a Smooooth ride and the car is so low that we aren't having any wallowing issues...

Just as an aside, the 370z chassis is not designed for the coil spring to load the SHOCK tower.... and in the interest of giving some usable room under the hatch they have also removed the reinforcement found in the 350.....the Aluminum tube is for side impact only...and putting a coilover on the rear also kills one inch of tire/wheel clearance (12" is a bit much I guess) But the boosted boys will need all the room they can find...lol. Soooo until the Robispec 370 is caged..and we reinforce the shock tower to take the loads, I will keep the stock spring location....(it doesn't look like the 370 will coil bind out like the 350 did...) so it looks safe.

B1nks 11-18-2009 01:11 AM

What is the spring rate (kg) ? I am using the middle for the fronts but (if I remember correctly..may have to double check) I'm running 5or6 compression and 7 rebound in the rear and that seems stiff still on the roads we have here. Don't see how you can keep a soft ride in the rear running as stiff as you say unless the spring just matches perfect. Also how many different springs did you test before settling on what you did ?

Robispec 11-18-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 285235)
What is the spring rate (kg) ? I am using the middle for the fronts but (if I remember correctly..may have to double check) I'm running 5or6 compression and 7 rebound in the rear and that seems stiff still on the roads we have here. Don't see how you can keep a soft ride in the rear running as stiff as you say unless the spring just matches perfect. Also how many different springs did you test before settling on what you did ?

ALL THIS INFORMATION IS FOR NTO5 tires 285 front and rear
This is a moving target right now with the stock front sway and no rear sway (we have a base model without limited slip) we started with 8k fronts and 9k rears (70mm ID high wind race springs so they cant coil bind) this was good for SEMA as they got the car low with enough travel for a GREAT RIDE. This changed when we went with the Whiteline front sway (soft) upped the rear to 10 k and stayed with the front for a twisty Button willow 31 clockwise configuration at the Super Lap Battle finals(placed 4th overall and second 370 Street RWD and .75 back on the Import tuner Turbo charged 370z). Added even more rear spring (12k) and set the front bar stiff at AAA speedway for the Redline finals(2nd Stock class and 2nd 370 by 0.10). I'm at WSIR as I write this and we had gone up on both the front(10k) and rear (14k) and the car has lost grip..(more on the rear than the front). so I think a stiffer front sway will help with the balance more than the extra spring...this will all go out the window with the change in damper valving though lol and we will start from base line again. Compression valves are maxed front and rear and the rebound valves are almost all the way open...thats why we are changing the valving again...

Robi

B1nks 12-16-2009 11:06 PM

wow that's nuts..pretty much not even a KW coilover setup anymore then is it ? Reason I was even asking these questions is because I wanted to try a similar setup on my car on my KW V3 setup since I wanna track my car and I'm a novice at it so I was thinking with the research you are putting into it I would have a good starting point and was going to go off of your recommendation. Keep in mind I still DD my car and travel to shows so I'm guessing 12 is the most I should go but for DD is that too much ? I also realize this is parts specific.

NewYorkJon34 04-15-2010 05:02 PM

I have the KW V3's being sent to my house, do I need to order anything else such as camber arms, special alignment kits, etc.. Or will I just be fine with an alignment?

209Z 04-16-2010 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 498124)
I have the KW V3's being sent to my house, do I need to order anything else such as camber arms, special alignment kits, etc.. Or will I just be fine with an alignment?

u need front and rear camber arms.

NewYorkJon34 04-16-2010 05:18 AM

I only plan on lowering it .6", I still need the camber arms? Which brand is better?

jmlenz 04-16-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robispec (Post 270662)
I kept the compression as dynoed in the middle (one turn) from full stiff the rebound I added a .25 turn to the stock settings....front and rear. This is giving a Smooooth ride and the car is so low that we aren't having any wallowing issues...

Just as an aside, the 370z chassis is not designed for the coil spring to load the SHOCK tower.... and in the interest of giving some usable room under the hatch they have also removed the reinforcement found in the 350.....the Aluminum tube is for side impact only...and putting a coilover on the rear also kills one inch of tire/wheel clearance (12" is a bit much I guess) But the boosted boys will need all the room they can find...lol. Soooo until the Robispec 370 is caged..and we reinforce the shock tower to take the loads, I will keep the stock spring location....(it doesn't look like the 370 will coil bind out like the 350 did...) so it looks safe.

Hey Robi > interesting that you can relocate the rear spring to the strut like a true coilover. How do you plan on reinforcing the chassis to support the spring load? Has this been done on the 350 with success?


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