Well, I don't really understand why changing the springs and lowering the car should affect the toe measurements anyway. Camber I can see, but it seems strange that toe should change.

I guess it does. Hell why can't a manufacture make a car and set it up for zero toe if suspension movement didn't effect it?

Just purchased swifts as well. Now I need to decide on doing the front camber arms(which are crazy expensive) with the rears.

Pretty sure I am going to go with SPC for the rear with toe bolts to get it close back into factory specs.

Any other recommendations?

Decide on the front after a good break in and tell us your specs. You might be within stock. If not you might be at a good spot for a great handling car you like.

Swifts won't be crazy out of spec for toe I don't think. The factory toe bolts at 1 degree might be enough for you.

Yes, my car and they've been on for 3k.

Had them installed today. Car handles awesome and the swifts soaked up every imperfection on the road. I am a true believer in their springs. Gonna give it a week or two before I have the rear camber arms installed and an alignment done. I'll be sure to post the specs. Not sure if I will change the fronts but the computer diagnosis may persuade me more.

Before on top
After on bottom

Just ordered mine today with spl camber arms. Gonna hold off on spacers till I see the final product. Hopefully I wont need them. My 19 in Rays on the 2013 look great.

You will want spacers -- it looks funny w/o them.

edit: the drop will make the need for spacers much more apparent.

Yep I ordered 20 front 20 rear. I figured I would want them.

I think this is a great look, it is what I run.

I recently bought swift springs, judging by what I'm hearing from you guys I have to get this and this in order to put my wheel setup to normal? I don't want to wear my out tires fast, but I definitely do want to lower my car.

You should only need rear camber arms to save your rear tires. The fronts just roll and won't wear out. No need spending that extra money on front camber and toe unless u are tracking your car in time trials and need to make adjustments. If that's the case u should think coilovers.

Dont Worry , You Will be able to get Camber and Toe back within spec with OEM arms bolts. TRUST ME.

Also, Toe Really eats your tires more than camber will.

Swifts and SPL arms have arrived. Will be installing them next week with H&R 20/20. First mods while waiting on my F I Cbe and Hfc's to arrive.

Gotcha, I was getting a little worried about the tires for a second there. So after installing the springs, should I just wait about a few weeks and then get a re-alignment?