Swift Spec-R springs
 

Planning on buying these springs this weekend. I want them to (hopefully) look like this or close to it. If someone has any input of what I should buy in order to get these springs goin let me know, thanks. (camber bolts etc?? I just want to take the stuff I buy to the shop and be able to leave with it securely put together lol)

i didnt need anything other than the springs

Camber arms and new toe bolts unless you want to go through back tires every 3-6 months.

Install first, drive a few hundred miles and then go for an alignment. Figure out what you want for your settings. Some people like high numbers and some like low numbers. After you get your numbers then decide or ask again what you should need. For me I won't need arms to go back to stock settings because I want an aggressive street car. But I might need arms to get even more negative camber.

This was the case for me after the Swift swap. Got the rear camber back into spec. I could live with the front (not adjustable stock anyway), but the rear was a bit much for me. No need to waste tires like that.

How much was it out? Did you just get a lock out bolt kit? I'm making my own since the bolts can be bought at any auto store for a dollar each and the plates just need cut to the size of the grooves in the sub frame.

I don't think swift springs will drop the car to that level. It'll be about half an inch higher. (1.25" in front, 1" in rear.

I didn't measure it like you did (smart move) before I installed adjustable rear arms and toe bolts. That said, when I got to the alignment shop, I was -1.6 left and -0.6 right. After the alignment, I was -1.6/-1.5. The toe was more of an issue at .95/1.20 before, but readjusted back to min spec of .10/.10. I probably aided in the toe mis-adjustment when I installed the toe bolts. I don't think the springs were to blame as much.

Yeah and the camber was prob like that because the arms could be set anywhere from the factory. Are your bolts eccentric or is it a lockout kit? I'm assuming eccentric because you said you adjusted toe and didn't buy toe arms. I guess adding just a bolt not allowing toe adjustment would not be a good think unless someone lucky that toe would be perfect.

Swift drop. It's close, but it's not as low as your picture

Your car? New springs?

how would you go about determining your settings? is this based on whether you DD your car vs. tracking it?

Correct. Ill probably shoot for -2.5 front, -1.5 rear maybe -2 rear. Thats mild aggressive. If you want more stockish you're front at least will be a lot lower and save your tires. I forget but a guy told me after swifts he was in the high -1's. so that's not enough for me but might be ok for you even if its just out of OEM spec.

Sorry for the delay. Out of town for work. Before installing the adjustable arms, I measured them against the stock arms, and then did the install. I guess my measurement was a bit off. The bolts are eccentric. Based on everything I read here, you really need to do both the adjustable arms (for camber) and the toe bolts (for toe) to get the proper adjustments necessary to get back to factory spec. I toyed with the idea of replacing all three arms in back, but decided it was overkill for my application.

I really hope I don't have to adjust toe. Installed a lockout kit for the toe and camber bolts and at the moment I'm in spec but springs are still stock.

Well, I don't really understand why changing the springs and lowering the car should affect the toe measurements anyway. Camber I can see, but it seems strange that toe should change.

I guess it does. Hell why can't a manufacture make a car and set it up for zero toe if suspension movement didn't effect it?

Just purchased swifts as well. Now I need to decide on doing the front camber arms(which are crazy expensive) with the rears.

Pretty sure I am going to go with SPC for the rear with toe bolts to get it close back into factory specs.

Any other recommendations?

Decide on the front after a good break in and tell us your specs. You might be within stock. If not you might be at a good spot for a great handling car you like.

Swifts won't be crazy out of spec for toe I don't think. The factory toe bolts at 1 degree might be enough for you.

Yes, my car and they've been on for 3k.

Had them installed today. Car handles awesome and the swifts soaked up every imperfection on the road. I am a true believer in their springs. Gonna give it a week or two before I have the rear camber arms installed and an alignment done. I'll be sure to post the specs. Not sure if I will change the fronts but the computer diagnosis may persuade me more.

Before on top
After on bottom

Just ordered mine today with spl camber arms. Gonna hold off on spacers till I see the final product. Hopefully I wont need them. My 19 in Rays on the 2013 look great.

You will want spacers -- it looks funny w/o them.

edit: the drop will make the need for spacers much more apparent.

Yep I ordered 20 front 20 rear. I figured I would want them.

I think this is a great look, it is what I run.

I recently bought swift springs, judging by what I'm hearing from you guys I have to get this and this in order to put my wheel setup to normal? I don't want to wear my out tires fast, but I definitely do want to lower my car.

You should only need rear camber arms to save your rear tires. The fronts just roll and won't wear out. No need spending that extra money on front camber and toe unless u are tracking your car in time trials and need to make adjustments. If that's the case u should think coilovers.

Dont Worry , You Will be able to get Camber and Toe back within spec with OEM arms bolts. TRUST ME.

Also, Toe Really eats your tires more than camber will.

Swifts and SPL arms have arrived. Will be installing them next week with H&R 20/20. First mods while waiting on my F I Cbe and Hfc's to arrive.

Gotcha, I was getting a little worried about the tires for a second there. So after installing the springs, should I just wait about a few weeks and then get a re-alignment?

300-400 hundred miles

awesome, thank you. +1 :tiphat:

Since swift springs rarely sag, all you have to wait for is the springs to bed into the rubber!

Would y'all recommend ordering both the rear camber kit and toe bolt then?
I'm thinking or ordering:
Swift springs
SPL rear Camber kit
SPC Toe Bolt
Some brand of 20mm spacers??

Sound about right?

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