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Csprad12 04-30-2013 11:28 AM

Coilovers
 
I have swift springs right now. And I'm looking for more of a drop. What are the best coils for under $1000?

Thank you :happydance:

Jasonle 04-30-2013 11:53 AM

Bc Br Coilovers.

Csprad12 04-30-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2293211)
Bc Br Coilovers.

Thank you sir! I will check them out. Is that what you are on? What kind of drop can I get with them? And how is the ride?

Jasonle 04-30-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Csprad12 (Post 2293336)
Thank you sir! I will check them out. Is that what you are on? What kind of drop can I get with them? And how is the ride?

Yes sir! Just had them installed couple days ago...im 1" lowered in front and 1.5 lowered in the back...I have a full body kit so I cant lower it that much...but ive seen it low low on other cars before. The ride is great!

I got my coilovers for a good deal used ($550). Just keep lookin through the for sale section...you will come across some.

Csprad12 04-30-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2293344)
Yes sir! Just had them installed couple days ago...im 1" lowered in front and 1.5 lowered in the back...I have a full body kit so I cant lower it that much...but ive seen it low low on other cars before. The ride is great!

I got my coilovers for a good deal used ($550). Just keep lookin through the for sale section...you will come across some.

Thanks man! Sounds great. Hopefully I can get a deal like you did :happydance:

raymondo510 05-05-2013 01:38 AM

So not to thread jack Csprad12, but I thought I'd ask my question here instead of starting a new thread. I know there's tons of threads on different coilovers, but I need some clarification. At first I had my mind set on Stance, but it seems like a lot of people are running BC's and more or less getting the same look im going for. I plan to AutoX occasionaly but for the most part I want to aggresively lower my car for looks. Is it safe to say theres not big difference between the two brands? Does it just come down to preference?

BlkNismo 05-05-2013 02:47 AM

Id advise to throw down a few more bills and go with hks or kw. Seems like all the Taiwan made coilovers have horrible valving.

raymondo510 05-05-2013 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2301048)
Id advise to throw down a few more bills and go with hks or kw. Seems like all the Taiwan made coilovers have horrible valving.

Yea I hear ya, Its just lately i've been always going over my budget with my mods and I was trying to actually stay within budget this time. Overtime yes, I could save up the extra, but I got wheels coming in this month so i'm trying to get all the parts together sooner than later.

Z-Girl 12 05-05-2013 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2293211)
Bc Br Coilovers.

:icon18:Yep, I love em. Not that I have tried any other but all is well with 6k on mine.

Volk Z 05-05-2013 08:12 AM

HKS and KW are the best choices BUT if you have a budget of 1000 and under then I would go BC over stance. I had BC's on my 350z and the ride was great. The only problem with all the made in Taiwan coilovers is some of the struts have issues. A friend of mine is on his 2nd set of replacing all struts after 1 year with BC coilovers... They are replaced for free BUT its a bit of a hassle.

What about TEIN basics? Or even like Tanabe coilovers? Get something at least made in Japan or America not Taiwan

One big thing to keep an eye on besides where they are made is spring rates. For street driving I wouldn't go higher then a 10kg front 8kg rear. 9kg/9kg is a good set up as well. Any higher and you will hate your car for street driving.

raymondo510 05-05-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2301166)
HKS and KW are the best choices BUT if you have a budget of 1000 and under then I would go BC over stance. I had BC's on my 350z and the ride was great. The only problem with all the made in Taiwan coilovers is some of the struts have issues. A friend of mine is on his 2nd set of replacing all struts after 1 year with BC coilovers... They are replaced for free BUT its a bit of a hassle.

What about TEIN basics? Or even like Tanabe coilovers? Get something at least made in Japan or America not Taiwan

One big thing to keep an eye on besides where they are made is spring rates. For street driving I wouldn't go higher then a 10kg front 8kg rear. 9kg/9kg is a good set up as well. Any higher and you will hate your car for street driving.

Yea I was actually looking at the tein's. I was looking around and seen that some guys have had some issues with the BC's making odd noises and giving them trouble. My budget isn't really set on a 1k, but bieng that I probably won't be tracking I didn't really feel the need to buy some of the higher end models. I might have to just bite down tho and buy a little better quality coilover

raymondo510 05-05-2013 09:07 AM

Now that I actually did a little more digging I see that I can get brands like tein or tanabe for about the same or even a little less

ChrisSlicks 05-05-2013 09:26 AM

No problem here with the BC ER after 3 years on track, then again pot holes and city streets probably but more abuse on shocks than a race track does :)

Volk Z 05-06-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2301178)
Yea I was actually looking at the tein's. I was looking around and seen that some guys have had some issues with the BC's making odd noises and giving them trouble. My budget isn't really set on a 1k, but bieng that I probably won't be tracking I didn't really feel the need to buy some of the higher end models. I might have to just bite down tho and buy a little better quality coilover

I messaged you back from where you posted on my profile.
Just wanted to re-iterate I would recommend throwing down 1800-2000 on suspension for KW or HKS due to the substantial better quality then other coilovers.

Even with that being said
I had BC's on my 350z and i was amazingly surprised at how much better the ride quality was once i honed in the dampening control perfectly for street. I drove the car hard and they took it well BUT i only had them for around a year to year and a half.
Im not sure if the people that have issues with them dont install them correctly (too much pre-load etc) or just get unlucky with a faulty strut...

raymondo510 05-06-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2302570)
I messaged you back from where you posted on my profile.
Just wanted to re-iterate I would recommend throwing down 1800-2000 on suspension for KW or HKS due to the substantial better quality then other coilovers.

Even with that being said
I had BC's on my 350z and i was amazingly surprised at how much better the ride quality was once i honed in the dampening control perfectly for street. I drove the car hard and they took it well BUT i only had them for around a year to year and a half.
Im not sure if the people that have issues with them dont install them correctly (too much pre-load etc) or just get unlucky with a faulty strut...

hmm I never got it, but either way I decided to just get the Bc's today so I guess im rolling the dice

Volk Z 05-07-2013 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2303738)
hmm I never got it, but either way I decided to just get the Bc's today so I guess im rolling the dice

Well I hope you don't have any problems. Just be sure to only set the pre-load in the rear at 3/8 MAX (1/4 is recommended).
Don't touch the front springs pre-load just install them.
Also when you want to adjust the height DO NOT do it while they are on the car. Take the strut out and adjust then reinstall the strut/spring

raymondo510 05-07-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2304002)
Also when you want to adjust the height DO NOT do it while they are on the car. Take the strut out and adjust then reinstall the strut/spring

Really why is that? From what i've seen most people do it while on the car

Volk Z 05-07-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2304047)
Really why is that? From what i've seen most people do it while on the car

Yikes REALLY? Well 1st it clearly says don't do it in the instructions. 2nd because you need to free the weight off the spindles so there is no pressure while you are spinning them up or down. Even though the car is jacked up you can't ensure the entire load is off the strut/spring.

For the front you can leave the top 3 bolts that are inside the engine bay BUT release the bolts on the bottom so it is floating and then ONLY twist the lower locking rings DON'T adjust the top ones as those have pre-load already set from the factory.
In the rear since its multi link you can leave the strut in and just take the spring with the spindles out and then re-do the pre-load after you complete.

Trust me ;)

Sh0velMan 05-07-2013 11:33 AM

^^ Your cautionary comments are valid and true, for the most part.

That said, for our cars, if you're lowered significantly, there isn't really any pre-load on the springs, so it's perfectly safe to adjust them.

This is for sure true in the front, and depending on setup, in the rear as well. Ever notice that if you loosen the shock nuts in the front, the nuts don't come up off of the tower? That's because the weight of the spindle/arms/brake/everything else assembly is pulling down on them because there's no assembly pre-load.

So for coilovers where you're adjusting a ride height adjustment that's independent of spring pre-load, you're just fine doing it on the car, as long as you can confirm there's no pressure on the assembly. (Which again you can confirm by loosening the top nuts and seeing if they stand up from the metal or if the shock just sinks down, keeping the nuts flush with the surface)

Volk Z 05-07-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2304443)
^^ Your cautionary comments are valid and true, for the most part.

That said, for our cars, if you're lowered significantly, there isn't really any pre-load on the springs, so it's perfectly safe to adjust them.

This is for sure true in the front, and depending on setup, in the rear as well. Ever notice that if you loosen the shock nuts in the front, the nuts don't come up off of the tower? That's because the weight of the spindle/arms/brake/everything else assembly is pulling down on them because there's no assembly pre-load.

So for coilovers where you're adjusting a ride height adjustment that's independent of spring pre-load, you're just fine doing it on the car, as long as you can confirm there's no pressure on the assembly. (Which again you can confirm by loosening the top nuts and seeing if they stand up from the metal or if the shock just sinks down, keeping the nuts flush with the surface)


Correct, you can adjust the front on the car as long as all the load is off (basically leave the 3 bolts in the engine bay) the bottom bolt should be undone so the strut is free of all load.

So yes I agree with you

raymondo510 05-07-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2304619)
Correct, you can adjust the front on the car as long as all the load is off (basically leave the 3 bolts in the engine bay) the bottom bolt should be undone so the strut is free of all load.

So yes I agree with you

Cool thanks a lot for all the help and knowledge you've shared

Volk Z 05-07-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2304681)
Cool thanks a lot for all the help and knowledge you've shared

Hook me up with some rep :)

raymondo510 05-07-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2304974)
Hook me up with some rep :)

Repped :tiphat:

Volk Z 05-08-2013 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2305190)
Repped :tiphat:

Thanks! Enjoy the coilovers!

raymondo510 05-08-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2305814)
Thanks! Enjoy the coilovers!

I'll let you know how it goes

gSwift 05-08-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2301178)
Yea I was actually looking at the tein's. I was looking around and seen that some guys have had some issues with the BC's making odd noises and giving them trouble. My budget isn't really set on a 1k, but bieng that I probably won't be tracking I didn't really feel the need to buy some of the higher end models. I might have to just bite down tho and buy a little better quality coilover

I had BC's on my 350 and they made horrible noises in the back. Had them checked out at 3 different shops and never got it fixed. I bought KW V3's for the current ride only to realize I couldn't achieve the aggressive look I wanted. Now I have Stance with the true coilover type in the rear and then added SPL toe arms and camber arms.

ChrisSlicks 05-09-2013 06:34 AM

Noise in the rear is usually when the spring is to short, when you go over a bump the spring rattles since there isn't enough preload. BC has two spring lengths to offer for the rear, they seem to ship the short one by default but that causes problems unless you have a large drop.

raymondo510 05-09-2013 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 2307574)
they seem to ship the short one by default but that causes problems unless you have a large drop.

Well I plan to have my nuts dragging so hopefully it will all work out

Volk Z 05-09-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 2307574)
Noise in the rear is usually when the spring is to short, when you go over a bump the spring rattles since there isn't enough preload. BC has two spring lengths to offer for the rear, they seem to ship the short one by default but that causes problems unless you have a large drop.

Or set a little extra pre-load. I set 3/8 rather then 1/4 and it was better. A 1/4 I heard a slight noise with on my 350z with those shorter revised springs.

I did maybe a 1.5 inch drop in the rear

1cleanZ 06-03-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gSwift (Post 2307391)
I had BC's on my 350 and they made horrible noises in the back. Had them checked out at 3 different shops and never got it fixed. I bought KW V3's for the current ride only to realize I couldn't achieve the aggressive look I wanted. Now I have Stance with the true coilover type in the rear and then added SPL toe arms and camber arms.

I want to bring this thread back to life because I've been trying my best to study up on this, but cannot get a clear answer from anyone.

I previously had a G37s with KW V3's and loved them. My car was flush, zero wheel gap, tire rubber tucked...etc. Even at this height, I had atleast 1 1/2" left on my perch that I could drop the car even more.

I continue to read that KW V3's are limited to how low you can adjust them on the 370. IS THIS TRUE? This is my single hold up from keeping me from purchasing KW's right now and its driving me nuts...I NEED to lower this Nismo ASAP!

I've flirted with Stance GR+ coils, Tein mono flex with EDFC as well. 2 of my local crew members run this and love it...adjusting their strut dampening on the go.

I do track events, Auto-X, and I also enjoy the afternoon cruise. I also attend ZdayZ( 17 hour drive) so with all of this taken into consideration, the Tein mono flex have really taken my interest.

I loved my KW's...so I'd really like to get the facts on this before I narrow my decision on going a different route.

This is Gene's 370 on KW V3's.....TBH, I don't know why you would ever want to go any lower then THIS???? Doesn't seem limiting to me?????
http://www.jdmgallery.com/wp-content..._4-900x597.jpg

1cleanZ 06-03-2013 08:03 PM

Annnnnybody??? Come on fellas, I know there's a ton of guys on here with KW V3's and Stance GR+

gSwift 06-03-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by | 1cleang | (Post 2345810)
I want to bring this thread back to life because I've been trying my best to study up on this, but cannot get a clear answer from anyone.

I previously had a G37s with KW V3's and loved them. My car was flush, zero wheel gap, tire rubber tucked...etc. Even at this height, I had atleast 1 1/2" left on my perch that I could drop the car even more.

I continue to read that KW V3's are limited to how low you can adjust them on the 370. IS THIS TRUE? This is my single hold up from keeping me from purchasing KW's right now and its driving me nuts...I NEED to lower this Nismo ASAP!

I've flirted with Stance GR+ coils, Tein mono flex with EDFC as well. 2 of my local crew members run this and love it...adjusting their strut dampening on the go.

I do track events, Auto-X, and I also enjoy the afternoon cruise. I also attend ZdayZ( 17 hour drive) so with all of this taken into consideration, the Tein mono flex have really taken my interest.

I loved my KW's...so I'd really like to get the facts on this before I narrow my decision on going a different route.

This is Gene's 370 on KW V3's.....TBH, I don't know why you would ever want to go any lower then THIS???? Doesn't seem limiting to me?????
http://www.jdmgallery.com/wp-content..._4-900x597.jpg

I think the KW's will go plenty low enough for most people. I do know that I've read that the KW's for the G go slightly lower that the Z, don't know this for a 100% though. But I can say that since installing my Stance SS+ and all the SPL arms in the back, I love them!

And I may be wrong but I think those are 20" wheels, so it appears to have a slightly better stance. I saw a few 370 pics with 19's and KW's thar were maxed out and the fender gap was barley closed up. I just didn't want to take the chance on them not going quiet as low as I'd like for them to.

1cleanZ 06-04-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gSwift (Post 2346836)
I think the KW's will go plenty low enough for most people. I do know that I've read that the KW's for the G go slightly lower that the Z, don't know this for a 100% though. But I can say that since installing my Stance SS+ and all the SPL arms in the back, I love them!

And I may be wrong but I think those are 20" wheels, so it appears to have a slightly better stance. I saw a few 370 pics with 19's and KW's thar were maxed out and the fender gap was barley closed up. I just didn't want to take the chance on them not going quiet as low as I'd like for them to.

What do you love about your SS+'s? Do you have any experiences with KW V3's at all?

There's quite a price difference between the two. I haven't heard anythign bad about Stance coils, and the one thing that actually IS appealing right now is the true coilover setup. KW does not offer this, but I loved them on my G37. Very comfortable and quality coilover.

gSwift 06-04-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by | 1cleang | (Post 2347739)
What do you love about your SS+'s? Do you have any experiences with KW V3's at all?

There's quite a price difference between the two. I haven't heard anythign bad about Stance coils, and the one thing that actually IS appealing right now is the true coilover setup. KW does not offer this, but I loved them on my G37. Very comfortable and quality coilover.

I'm currently just using the car on the street so my settings are a little on the soft side, but I'm really pleased with how they ride. I to wanted a true type coilover, mainly so that I could go with the SPL arms. I plan on doing some track events later, so then I'll have a much better idea of how they perform.

As for my experience with KW, I don't have any. I bought them based off some inaccurate info on a website that showed that the drop was lower than it actually was. So I did a little research and saw that a some people were complaining about the drop so I figured it would better to play it safe and sale them and get something that I know has an aggressive drop.

BlKsUbYkId 06-04-2013 05:17 PM

I currently have KW V3s on my Nismo. It took me about 3-4 months of research to decide on these coilovers and I cant explain how amazing they are. I have the damping set in the middle & is WAY more comfortable than stock. Paired up with Whiteline swaybars, the car feels planted & handles wonderfully with minimal body roll. Ill post pictures of my set-up when I get home, but I still need to drop the rear to match the front & and Im running out of threads already so if you are looking to SLAM the car to the ground then these aren't for you.

1cleanZ 06-04-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlKsUbYkId (Post 2348158)
I currently have KW V3s on my Nismo. It took me about 3-4 months of research to decide on these coilovers and I cant explain how amazing they are. I have the damping set in the middle & is WAY more comfortable than stock. Paired up with Whiteline swaybars, the car feels planted & handles wonderfully with minimal body roll. Ill post pictures of my set-up when I get home, but I still need to drop the rear to match the front & and Im running out of threads already so if you are looking to SLAM the car to the ground then these aren't for you.

Finally some quality info on V3's on the 370! If you can post up a photo of your ride height, and even a photo of where you're coil is on the threads, I'd REALLY appreciate it!!!:tup:

1cleanZ 06-05-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BlKsUbYkId (Post 2348158)
I currently have KW V3s on my Nismo. It took me about 3-4 months of research to decide on these coilovers and I cant explain how amazing they are. I have the damping set in the middle & is WAY more comfortable than stock. Paired up with Whiteline swaybars, the car feels planted & handles wonderfully with minimal body roll. Ill post pictures of my set-up when I get home, but I still need to drop the rear to match the front & and Im running out of threads already so if you are looking to SLAM the car to the ground then these aren't for you.

still no pics... :(

BlKsUbYkId 06-05-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by | 1cleang | (Post 2348970)
still no pics... :(

Yeah sorry. I need to do it right when I get home because by the time I'm back from the gym everyone is already home & its a pain to move everyone's cars out of the way. I'll do my best to get some today.


Pictures added!


http://i41.tinypic.com/5cjc7c.jpg


http://i41.tinypic.com/2nivhpw.jpg


Front lip sits really low...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2vtnrb8.jpg


Thinking of dropping the rear another 0.750" to 1.000"

1cleanZ 06-05-2013 07:53 PM

thank you for this!!!

Can you take a pic of where your adjustments are on your struts of how much lower or how close you are to maxing them out???? I'm liking what I see!!!!!

I'm seriously just waiting and studying between the stance SS+ and KW V3's.....

I appreciate this greatly bro...seriously! Loving the headlights as well as the FI exhaust. I'd love to get some pics of how low your canisters are in the rear.

Wonka2581 06-05-2013 08:00 PM

Subd for future reference.


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