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ResIpsa 09-16-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 1316268)
I was just recalling Car & Driver's retest of the Nismo where even a pad and fluid upgrade failed to prevent the fluid from boiling.

So from your experience on the track you've had no fluid related problems when using Motul 600 or AP 600 fluids? That's good news.

Eventually (as your skill increases) you are going to need to add brake cooling ducts.

ChrisSlicks 09-16-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 1316268)
I was just recalling Car & Driver's retest of the Nismo where even a pad and fluid upgrade failed to prevent the fluid from boiling.

So from your experience on the track you've had no fluid related problems when using Motul 600 or AP 600 fluids? That's good news.

It was mostly that they burned through the stock pads so quickly that they lost the pad protection layer (the pad material is an insulator). That allowed the fluid to quickly boil from the radiant heat. If you can find titanium shims that fit that will also give an extra layer of protection and help your dust seals survive more than 1 event. Brake ducts would be good too.

Guard Dad 09-16-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 1316422)
I only use Castrol SRF on the track. Worth every penny...

That's my thinking, it's your brakes, you REALLY want them to work!

SRF should be a winner on the street as well, what with its very high wet boiling point. Is there any reason not to use it on the street?

I've been thinking about the brake ducts as well but it will be some time before I get serious on that issue.

Titanium shims would offer some protection for the dust seals and the brake fluid, are they available and if so where and how much?

ResIpsa 09-16-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 1316477)
That's my thinking, it's your brakes, you REALLY want them to work!

SRF should be a winner on the street as well, what with its very high wet boiling point. Is there any reason not to use it on the street?

I've been thinking about the brake ducts as well but it will be some time before I get serious on that issue.

Titanium shims would offer some protection for the dust seals and the brake fluid, are they available and if so where and how much?

The only issue with SRF is corrosion. With stock fluid you can replace it and forget it. However, with SRF it must be flushed before 18 months (per the instructions) or you can do some damage.

Guard Dad 09-17-2011 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 1316922)
The only issue with SRF is corrosion. With stock fluid you can replace it and forget it. However, with SRF it must be flushed before 18 months (per the instructions) or you can do some damage.

Is it the fluid that does the damage or does it not provide a great deal of corrosion protection so it requires regular flushing?

ChrisSlicks 09-17-2011 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 1317358)
Is it the fluid that does the damage or does it not provide a great deal of corrosion protection so it requires regular flushing?

It is because it is so resistant to absorbing moisture. Most fluids prevent corrosion by absorbing moisture but the high end racing fluids resist absorption.

Guard Dad 09-17-2011 12:08 PM

So regular flushing of the system keeps the moisture at a manageable level, got it. I guess it's Motul 600 for everyday use and SRF for serious work.


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