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Guard Dad 03-03-2011 07:49 PM

Wheel spacers: For looks, for handling or both?
 
I'm seriously considering getting 15mm front, 20mm rear wheel spacers but I've got some questions. My Z is a daily-driver, it has the sport package and I will not be dropping the car or changing the wheels.

I know that in theory the wider track provided by the spacers should improve handling but was any actual improvement noted or is it strictly an appearance mod?

The 15/20 combo seems popular although some folks have gone beyond that to 20/20 or 20/25. I'm a more-is-better kind of guy but I don't want the wheels hanging out in the breeze plus I am considering 275/35 front tires and 305/30 rear tires when the time comes for new tires so I wouldn't want spacers that are so wide that the tires are hitting the fenders. Any thoughts?.

kenchan 03-03-2011 08:01 PM

Do 15 on the rear. 20 and higher its going to hang out too much at stock height. I know cause I already tried several sizes.

spearfish25 03-03-2011 08:10 PM

Gonna disagree here. I love my 15f/20r setup at stock height.

Guard Dad 03-03-2011 08:11 PM

Good to know. Did you notice any change in the handling?

VaGntlmn 03-03-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 968366)
Do 15 on the rear. 20 and higher its going to hang out too much at stock height. I know cause I already tried several sizes.

Oh I hope you're wrong. I have 20's on order for the rear right now.
Of course, I have been lowered a little bit.

Guard Dad 03-03-2011 08:14 PM

Spearfish25 how tight was the fender clearance, any contact, any room for wider tires in the future?

SPOHN 03-03-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 968390)
Good to know. Did you notice any change in the handling?

There's not going to be any changes in the handling department with spacers.

spearfish25 03-03-2011 08:30 PM

No issues at all with clearance and 285 width tires.

And the widened track width would definitely have a small improvement in cornering performance.

Guard Dad 03-03-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 968425)
There's not going to be any changes in the handling department with spacers.

Is that because the increase in track is, on a percentage basis, quite small?

Any change in feel?

Guard Dad 03-03-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 968430)
No issues at all with clearance and 285 width tires.

And the widened track width would definitely have a small improvement in cornering performance.

Those 285's are on the rear correct?

SPOHN 03-03-2011 08:47 PM

Yea, it's pretty small. Nothing really that amounts to anything. So far as feel. I can tell when I have had spacer on/ off. But quickly forget there there after a trip down the road.

Guard Dad 03-03-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 968450)
Yea, it's pretty small. Nothing really that amounts to anything. So far as feel. I can tell when I have had spacer on/ off. But quickly forget there there after a trip down the road.

So the improvement may be real but it is small and you acclimate to it so quickly that it you almost don't realize that it's there? So from your perspective this is mostly an appearance mod correct?

I'm looking at Z1 Motorsports spacers (the kind that require the longer studs), any thoughts on these spacers?

spearfish25 03-03-2011 09:16 PM

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Just get H&R spacers. They're tried and true performers.

Here is my car before and after adding the 20mm spacers (tried to match the angle as best I could, but you can still see the difference). Rear tires were 275 in the photos, but I have tried 285s that worked fine as well.

Guard Dad 03-03-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 968502)
Just get H&R spacers. They're tried and true performers.

Here is my car before and after adding the 20mm spacers (tried to match the angle as best I could, but you can still see the difference). Rear tires were 275 in the photos, but I have tried 285s that worked fine as well.

Nice fit!

cheshirecat 03-03-2011 09:37 PM

I have 20mm front 25mm rear coming in tomorrow. Will be installing them Saturday. Have Swift springs on order- I think after the drop the camber will get them fitting perfectly on in there.

We shall see.

Red__Zed 03-03-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 968483)
So the improvement may be real but it is small and you acclimate to it so quickly that it you almost don't realize that it's there? So from your perspective this is mostly an appearance mod correct?

I'm looking at Z1 Motorsports spacers (the kind that require the longer studs), any thoughts on these spacers?

Increasing track is going to make an unnoticeable change in handling, especially given the other components on the car.

SPOHN 03-04-2011 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 968483)
So the improvement may be real but it is small and you acclimate to it so quickly that it you almost don't realize that it's there? So from your perspective this is mostly an appearance mod correct?

I'm looking at Z1 Motorsports spacers (the kind that require the longer studs), any thoughts on these spacers?

Yea I would say for appearance. As red zed stated, it unnoticed due to the other commoners on the car. I don't know much about the Z1's spacers. But knowing them there probably good quality. Mostly I would ask questions about the studs. You want good quality studs. I have ARP studs with my spacers.

kenchan 03-04-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 968387)
Gonna disagree here. I love my 15f/20r setup at stock height.

gonna disagree. i dont like your setup. :icon17: ;) jk

wheee! 03-04-2011 11:28 AM

15 fr and 20 r is the best stock setup IMHO

kenchan 03-04-2011 11:48 AM

:icon17: hahaha. ok. :D

my current setup is similar to that... ET33 front, ET15 but with 10.5" running 275. :)

kielbasa16 03-04-2011 03:23 PM

Can somebody please chime in as to where you ordered your H&R spacers. Feel free to PM as well!

tonybui 03-04-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kielbasa16 (Post 969931)
Can somebody please chime in as to where you ordered your H&R spacers. Feel free to PM as well!

same, thanks !!

spearfish25 03-04-2011 03:38 PM

Link to Stillen H&R Spacers


Bam! That just happened...

spearfish25 03-04-2011 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 969472)
gonna disagree. i dont like your setup. :icon17: ;) jk

you're a sausage :nutswinger:

:)

kenchan 03-04-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 969986)
you're a sausage :nutswinger:

:)

i lol'ed. :tup:

kielbasa16 03-04-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 969979)
Link to Stillen H&R Spacers


Bam! That just happened...

Shake & Bake!

kenchan 03-04-2011 04:31 PM

steak & snake

SPOHN 03-04-2011 07:23 PM

Rattle & roll

cheshirecat 03-05-2011 05:57 PM

Just finished putting mine on.

For non-lowered cars, 15mm front and 20mm rear will make the top of the tire even with the fender.

For my car, which will be lowered when my swifts get here, the 20mm front and 25mm rear are perfect. The camber coming in will make them perfectly flush.

Anyway, yeah.

spearfish25 03-05-2011 06:42 PM

Looking forward to getting my summer tires back on and seeing the fitment with 265 front/ 285 rear. The RE-11s are just gnarly looking. That tread pattern makes them look like they're doing 150mph while standing still.

kenchan 03-05-2011 07:49 PM

Sounds like fun. :D finally got my black lugs yesterday. Hopefully by next weekend salt washes away I can install my latest setup and start motoring my z. :p ET33 19x9 245/40/19 conti ext dw, ET15 19x10.5 275/35/19 conti ext dw. :)

VaGntlmn 03-07-2011 08:07 PM

Does anybody know who has the H&R's in stock and at a good price?
I have an order in with Stillen, but my estimated delivery date just changed from the beginning of march (now) to mid-april. :(

What I'm looking for:
H&R TRAK+ Wheel Spacers (HR4065663)
20mm

Thanks

LunaZ 03-07-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 968425)
There's not going to be any changes in the handling department with spacers.

I have to disagree on that, especially if you stagger the rear.
With 20mm spacers in the rear and the front wheels with no spacers, my car is more prone to understeer.

Josh@STILLEN 03-07-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDRead (Post 974638)
Does anybody know who has the H&R's in stock and at a good price?
I have an order in with Stillen, but my estimated delivery date just changed from the beginning of march (now) to mid-april. :(

What I'm looking for:
H&R TRAK+ Wheel Spacers (HR4065663)
20mm

Thanks

Are you dead set on DRM's? We should have the DRS ready to ship.

We've had the DRM's on order FOREVER.. months and months.. :/

VaGntlmn 03-08-2011 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 974795)
Are you dead set on DRM's? We should have the DRS ready to ship.

Good point Josh, but yes, at the moment I really want the DRM's.

kenchan 03-08-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 974790)
With 20mm spacers in the rear and the front wheels with no spacers, my car is more prone to understeer.


this is true. playing with offset is like the icing on the cake for suspension setup.

370Zsteve 05-18-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 974790)
I have to disagree on that, especially if you stagger the rear.
With 20mm spacers in the rear and the front wheels with no spacers, my car is more prone to understeer.

Very true but I don't think he was talking about a setup with such an extreme between the front and rear.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1368893622

DarkJak 05-18-2013 05:11 PM

Old thread, but pretty useful. Has anyone ever tried wider in the front, like 20F/15R for reducing understeer? Since it sounds like the standard 15/20 or 20/25 would increase understeer. Or perhaps 20/20?

Guard Dad 05-20-2013 07:03 PM

I have been running the 15/20 combination for about two years now. No noticeable changes, think of this as an inexpensive appearance mod.

If you are trying to fine tune the oversteer/understeer situation, I am a big fan of Stillens adjustable sway bars.

Stino 05-20-2013 10:59 PM

I recently installed 15MM in the front and 20MM in the rear. My Z is lowered on the Eibach Pro kit and the fitment is perfect.

Check it out here.

Stino


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