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onzedge 05-25-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chinook (Post 1737468)
And I thank you wheee! Couldn't be happier teins were not horrible by any means but the swift springs just seem to handle a little better and I was getting a fair bit of rubbing up front with the teins and so far with the swifts there has been none. Save the money and do it right the first time! Got my swifts from kamispeed, service was great!

Yeah -- those are good guys there.

ZMan8 05-25-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1737482)
Yeah -- those are good guys there.

:iagree: pleasure to deal with them and great prices

Alchemy 05-25-2012 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1737486)
:iagree: pleasure to deal with them and great prices

Yes, I have a lot of parts on my car that I ordered from Kamispeed. Love those guys:tup: Best deal on all the parts I got from them. GREAT deal on the Konis when I got em:icon17:

wheee! 05-25-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chinook (Post 1737468)
And I thank you wheee! Couldn't be happier teins were not horrible by any means but the swift springs just seem to handle a little better and I was getting a fair bit of rubbing up front with the teins and so far with the swifts there has been none. Save the money and do it right the first time! Got my swifts from kamispeed, service was great!

You're welcome Chinook! I still made out like a bandit with the 19 row oil cooler in trade for the install... lol

NXTAZEE 05-29-2012 03:00 AM

Having Swifts, rear cambers and toe bolt and 20mm F & 25mm R spacers put on tomorrow. I have a question regarding the camber front to rear. Some on here have said that more negative camber up front yields better handling, but I see most run with more negative camber in the rear. Your thoughts please.

wheee! 05-29-2012 06:58 AM

I do not track my car AND I have 305's in the rear with the above mentioned setup, therefore I chose -1.2 rear camber to keep the fat tires as square as possible and still have great handling. More negative camber will have some performance benefits for more aggressive drivers, but greater tire wear.
My fronts do not have camber arms so they are stock and -1.7 with the Swifts.

http://www.the370z.com/members/wheee...2-1-2-rear.jpg

Chinook 05-29-2012 07:50 AM

I went with the same camber set up in the rear as wheee, after seeing my tires after around 5-8,000 km's with lowering springs and without camber arms. The inside tire wear was very excessive I would guess the tires would have lasted another 5,000 km tops.

wheee! 05-29-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chinook (Post 1742408)
I went with the same camber set up in the rear as wheee, after seeing my tires after around 5-8,000 km's with lowering springs and without camber arms. The inside tire wear was very excessive I would guess the tires would have lasted another 5,000 km tops.

No, that wear was from all the burnouts you've been doing with the STS Turbo....! :stirthepot:

NXTAZEE 05-30-2012 11:04 AM

Had the swifts installed yesterday. Wow! I love them. They ride smoother than the stock springs, but in the corners they are much stiffer. When hitting sharp bumps in the road you can tell they are stiffer, but other than that they are a more comfortable ride. Ride height before in the front was 27 10/16 now it's 26 12/16 (14/16 drop) the rears were 27 8/16 and now 26 15/16 (9/16 drop). It will probably drop a little more, but I'm happy with the way it looks now. Camber up front is -1.9 and in the rear it's -1.6 with SPC camber arms. The car handles really nice. The spacers look awesome. I was driving behind a Carrera 4S on the way to the shop and the tires in the back stuck out a tiny bit, looked really nice. Thats how the back end of my Z looks now. I will post photos later today. The install took 4 hours at the shop, even with me getting in the way ;).

onzedge 05-30-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 1744546)
Had the swifts installed yesterday. Wow! I love them. They ride smoother than the stock springs, but in the corners they are much stiffer. When hitting sharp bumps in the road you can tell they are stiffer, but other than that they are a more comfortable ride. Ride height before in the front was 27 10/16 now it's 26 12/16 (14/16 drop) the rears were 27 8/16 and now 26 15/16 (9/16 drop). It will probably drop a little more, but I'm happy with the way it looks now. Camber up front is -1.9 and in the rear it's -1.6 with SPC camber arms. The car handles really nice. The spacers look awesome. I was driving behind a Carrera 4S on the way to the shop and the tires in the back stuck out a tiny bit, looked really nice. Thats how the back end of my Z looks now. I will post photos later today. The install took 4 hours at the shop, even with me getting in the way ;).

:tup:

KaienZ34 05-30-2012 11:18 AM

What is an average cost for a spring and camber kit install run?

onzedge 05-30-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1744581)
What is an average cost for a spring and camber kit install run?

You are looking at about $320 for the springs and about $190 for the camber arms. Install = ???

KaienZ34 05-30-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1744603)
You are looking at about $320 for the springs and about $190 for the camber arms. Install = ???


Thank you good sir, i already have the parts just looking for a ballpark price on installing them.

KingZee 05-30-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1744581)
What is an average cost for a spring and camber kit install run?

if you were in L.A. instead of LA. Lou @ Amp would have hooked you up.

KaienZ34 05-30-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KingZee (Post 1744623)
if you were in L.A. instead of LA. Lou @ Amp would have hooked you up.


:bowrofl::tup: i know right

NXTAZEE 05-30-2012 03:44 PM

Ok, here are some photos. I wish I knew how to just post up the photos instead of these attachments.



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Zoren 370 05-30-2012 06:21 PM

Anybody here had a Swift spring installed with a FI or ARK Grip CBE.
Did you have any problems with ride height? I mean with speed bumps?

Zoren 370 05-30-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 1745085)
Ok, here are some photos. I wish I knew how to just post up the photos instead of these attachments.



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Can't open your attachments.:confused:

KaienZ34 05-30-2012 06:24 PM

I know Ron is running swifts and FI 3" catback on his TT nismo. We had no problems from texas to louisiana then the dragon (NC) and back. Just take speed bumps slowly and at an angle.

Zoren 370 05-30-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1742371)
I do not track my car AND I have 305's in the rear with the above mentioned setup, therefore I chose -1.2 rear camber to keep the fat tires as square as possible and still have great handling. More negative camber will have some performance benefits for more aggressive drivers, but greater tire wear.
My fronts do not have camber arms so they are stock and -1.7 with the Swifts.

http://www.the370z.com/members/wheee...2-1-2-rear.jpg

Do you have the Sport Rays wheels with your 305/30 V12?
Can I not go back to OEM camber setup with the swift and with a 19X11 wheels.
Is there a need for a camber kit for this?

KaienZ34 05-30-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 1745334)
Do you have the Sport Rays wheels with your 305/30 V12?
Can I not go back to OEM camber setup with the swift and with a 19X11 wheels.
Is there a need for a camber kit for this?


It looks like stock rays and spacers.
It will depend on your offset.
More than likely you will need camber/toe kit for atleast the rear.

Zoren 370 05-30-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1745333)
I know Ron is running swifts and FI 3" catback on his TT nismo. We had no problems from texas to louisiana then the dragon (NC) and back. Just take speed bumps slowly and at an angle.

Thanks man, Oh you guys where at the ZdayZ? Too bad did not meet you in the dragon.

KaienZ34 05-30-2012 06:34 PM

Yeah we had a blast, i rode with ron his z is white.

wheee! 05-30-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 1745334)
Do you have the Sport Rays wheels with your 305/30 V12?
Can I not go back to OEM camber setup with the swift and with a 19X11 wheels.
Is there a need for a camber kit for this?

Sport Rays and I have the SPC rear camber arms and toe kit.

Zoren 370 05-31-2012 04:59 PM

Nice!
Anyway guys Im planning to put in a swift springs together with a 19X 9.5 and 19x11 M310 with V12 255/305. Now my question being the complete front and rear camber kits cost around 500+. Which kinda pain in my A** right now to buy.
Which one can I prioritize in buying the front or the rears to make my Z close to OEM's camber alignment? Since can't afford both right now.:mad:

KaienZ34 05-31-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 1747212)
Nice!
Anyway guys Im planning to put in a swift springs together with a 19X 9.5 and 19x11 M310 with V12 255/305. Now my question being the complete front and rear camber kits cost around 500+. Which kinda pain in my A** right now to buy.
Which one can I prioritize in buying the front or the rears to make my Z close to OEM's camber alignment? Since can't afford both right now.:mad:


Do the rear first for sure.

Zoren 370 05-31-2012 05:08 PM

Ok Kinetics would be it!??

KaienZ34 05-31-2012 05:30 PM

They are very good, SPL has a very good rear setup but not SPC.

NXTAZEE 05-31-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1747298)
They are very good, SPL has a very good rear setup but not SPC.

Whats wrong with SPC? I have them installed. There is a lot of adjustment and they are way beefier than the stocks. A friend has had them on his 350Z for a couple of years with no issues. He tracks his car as well.

onzedge 05-31-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1747298)
They are very good, SPL has a very good rear setup but not SPC.

I have no problems with SPC on any of my vehicles upon which I have used them.

KaienZ34 05-31-2012 10:40 PM

Just that the design allows then to slip and or fail. Not saying every one will fail, just that other designs are better suited not to fail.

wheee! 06-01-2012 10:48 AM

From an engineering standpoint, both SPL and SPC use the same locking collar design. The SPL has titanium parts for weight savings, but the chances of either design slipping are next to nil!

HOWEVER, the lockout kit from SPL will allow you to set the camber bolt and toe bolt into a locked out position any prevent and movement of the camber or toe arms at the frame connection. You can buy a lockout kit for the SPC arms if you like and achieve the same effect.... :twocents:

KaienZ34 06-01-2012 01:10 PM

spc rear camber arms
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...y/DSC00960.jpg

spl rear camber arms
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/..._rll_z33_1.jpg

wheee! 06-01-2012 03:38 PM

Nice pictures..... what's your point? They both use jam nuts to lock the camber position....

KaienZ34 06-01-2012 04:42 PM

Just trying to show the quality of each product, doesn't quite look the same.

Zoren 370 06-01-2012 04:52 PM

IMO the weight difference would be the clincher!
And the huge price difference!

KaienZ34 06-01-2012 04:55 PM

That i couldn't say, but i'm sure someone will.

Zoren 370 06-01-2012 04:58 PM

Its very clear the SPL is the better brand/product. No Doubt.
But it always boils down to a choice.

wheee! 06-01-2012 05:35 PM

SPL is the better product IMO too. I went with the SPC's because they came up local used at a good price.
My original comments were solely directed at the post regarding the issue of the SPC rear arms slipping out of adjustment versus the SPL. I merely pointed out that they have the same system using locking collars to hold camber settings. It's the lockout kit (for the toe bolts and camber bolts at the frame) that makes the big difference for those tracking their cars I believe.

Zoren 370 06-02-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1749554)
SPL is the better product IMO too. I went with the SPC's because they came up local used at a good price.
My original comments were solely directed at the post regarding the issue of the SPC rear arms slipping out of adjustment versus the SPL. I merely pointed out that they have the same system using locking collars to hold camber settings. It's the lockout kit (for the toe bolts and camber bolts at the frame) that makes the big difference for those tracking their cars I believe.


Therefore if I track occasionally like 2x a year the SPC rears would be good enough for street weekend drive?


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