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SE 05-17-2010 01:47 AM

The Definitive Z34 Brake Resource
 
I started this thread as a resource of available brake upgrades. Please feel free to add your own suggestions to the list and I will update the original posts.

SE 05-17-2010 01:47 AM

BRAKE LINE UPGRADES

Racing Brake SS Braided Lines
Akebono Only
MSRP- $128.00
http://www.racingbrake.com/v/vspfile.../bl014-t-2.jpg

CZP Teflon Coated Brake Lines
Akebono & Base Model
MSRP- $109.00
http://www.czp.us/cart/images/2975l.jpg

Challenge SS Braided Lines
Akebono & Base Model
MSRP- $125.00
http://gallery.gtmotoring.com/d/4256...+lines-web.jpg

Stoptech SS Braided Lines
Akebono & Base Model
MSRP- $150.00
http://www.jscspeed.com/images/catal...thumb_full.jpg

Goodridge G-Stop SS Braided Lines
Akebono & Base Model
MSRP- $300.00
http://www.stillen.com/product_files...34~photo.1.jpg

Endless Brake Lines- Swivel Racing
Akebono Model
MSRP- $370.00
http://www.fontananissanparts.com/sf...mage123231.jpg

Endless Brake Lines- Swivel Steel
Akebono Model
MSRP- $724.00
http://www.fontananissanparts.com/sf...mage123231.jpg

SE 05-17-2010 01:47 AM

BRAKE ROTOR UPGRADES

EBC
1 piece
Basic, Cross-Drilled AND Slotted
Akebono & Base Model
MSRP- $TBD
http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/80-gd.jpg

EBC- (Ultimax)
2-piece
Slotted
Akebono Model
MSRP- $TBD
http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/86-blackusr2.jpg

Relentless Autosports
2-piece, full floating
Slotted
Akebono Model
MSRP- $1749.00 (F & R)
http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/a...shardware1.jpg

Racing Brake
2 piece, full floating
Slotted
Akebono Model
MSRP- $434.25 (F), $421.21 (R) each
http://www.racingbrake.com/v/vspfile...2020-381-2.jpg

Racing Brake
1 piece
Base Model
Slotted OR Cross-Drilled/Slotted
MSRP- $115.44 (Slotted), $ 125.95 (Cross+Slot) (FRONT ONLY, each)
http://www.racingbrake.com/v/vspfiles/photos/1000-2.jpg

Rotora
1 piece
Akebono Model
Basic, Slotted, Cross-Drilled, Cross-Drilled/Slotted
MSRP- $136-234.00 (F), $120-212.00 (R) each
http://www.girodisc.com/catalog/images/Rotor-CDS.jpg

StopTech
1 piece
Akebono Model
Slotted, Cross-Drilled, Cross-Drilled/Slotted
MSRP- $272-288.00 (FRONT ONLY, each)
http://www.fontananissanparts.com/sf...mage130054.jpg

Stillen
1 piece
Akebono Model
Slotted OR Cross-Drilled
MSRP- $429.26 (FRONT PAIR) $340 (REAR PAIR)
http://www.fontananissanparts.com/sf...mage117233.jpg

SE 05-17-2010 01:48 AM

BRAKE PADS

Carbotech- AX6
Akebono
Street/Light Track
MSRP- $165 (FRONT PAIR). $141 (REAR PAIR).
http://www.shop.fqperformance.com/im...otech_pads.jpg

Carbotech- XP8
Akebono
Street/Track
MSRP- $182 (FRONT PAIR). $152 (REAR PAIR).
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2750/...fec35ac1_o.jpg

Carbotech- XP10
Akebono
Track, street not recommended
MSRP- $200 (FRONT PAIR). $164 (REAR PAIR).
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/...36c286d8_o.jpg

Carbotech- XP12
Akebono
Dedicated track pad
MSRP- $220 (FRONT PAIR). $177 (REAR PAIR).
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/...ec3eeae9_o.jpg

Carbotech- XP16
Akebono
RACE USE ONLY
MSRP- $242 (FRONT PAIR). $192 (REAR PAIR).
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/...3e7253e5_o.jpg

EBC- RedStuff/GreenStuff
Akebono
Street/Track Pad
MSRP- $99.95 (FRONT). $88.99 (REAR)
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/i...f-pad-solo.jpg

EBC- YellowStuff
Akebono
Dedicated Track Pad
MSRP- $128.99 (FRONT). $111.19 (REAR).
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/i...low-pads_1.jpg

Ferodo- DS2500
Akebono
Street/Track
MSRP- $230.87 (FRONT PAIR). $182.41 (REAR PAIR).
http://www.polepositionusa.com/v/vsp...ake-Pads-2.jpg

Ferodo- DS3000
Akebono
Track, street not recommended
MSRP- $323.22 (FRONT PAIR). $263.36 (REAR PAIR).
http://www.polepositionusa.com/v/vsp...ake-Pads-2.jpg

Hawk- Performance Ceramic
Akebono
Street Only
MSRP- $108 (FRONT PAIR). $98 (REAR PAIR)
http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...274&page=popup

Hawk- HP Plus
Akebono
Track, street not recommended
MSRP- $148 (FRONT PAIR)
http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...485&page=popup

Nismo S-Tune
Akebono
Street/Track
MSRP- $259.99 (FRONT OR REAR)
http://www.mossyperformance.com/Prod...front_pads.bmp

SE 05-17-2010 01:48 AM

BIG BRAKE KITS

Alcon
Pistons- unknown, Disk Sizing- unknown
MSRP- $TBD
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/i...on-gtr-100.jpg

Alliance
8-piston, 15-inch rotor (FRONT)/8-piston, 14-inch rotor (FRONT)/6-piston, 14-inch rotor (FRONT)/6-piston, 14-inch rotor (REAR)/6-piston, 13-inch rotor (REAR)
MSRP- $3685-3990 (FULL FRONT/REAR KIT)
http://www.blacklinems.com/images/alliance/photo2.jpg

AP Racing
6-piston, 14.25-inch rotor (FRONT)/4-piston, 13-inch rotor (REAR)
MSRP- $2799.75 (FRONT KIT). $2095.75-2249.75 (REAR KIT).
http://www.stillen.com/productid_images/APBRKIT4P.jpg

Brembo
6-piston, 15-inch rotor (FRONT)/4-piston, 13.6-inch rotor (REAR)
MSRP- $1994.99 (FRONT CALIPER ONLY). $4249.99 (FRONT KIT). $3294.99 (REAR KIT)
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Ben/Brakes/b...old_brembo.jpg

Central 20
6-piston, 14.5-inch rotor (FRONT)/4-piston, 14-inch rotor (REAR)
MSRP- $11950.00 (FULL FRONT/REAR KIT).
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...t-3_460x0w.gif

Impul
6-piston, 14.5-inch rotor (FRONT)/4-piston, 13-inch rotor (REAR)
MSRP- $10995.00 (FULL FRONT/REAR KIT).
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...lRRBBK370Z.jpg

Ksport
6-piston, 11-inch rotor/6-piston, 12-inch rotor (FRONT)
6-piston, 11-inch rotor/6-piston, 12-inch rotor (REAR)
MSRP- $1500-1560 (FRONT KIT). $1500-1560 (REAR KIT).
http://www.corsportusa.com/store/cat...rtbigbrake.jpg

Rotora
4-piston, 13-inch rotor/6-piston 14-inch rotor/8-piston 15-inch rotor (FRONT)
4-piston, 13-inch rotor/4-piston 14-inch rotor/4-piston 15-inch rotor (REAR)
MSRP- $1975.59-3795.00 (FRONT KIT). $2095-2795.00 (REAR KIT)
http://amszstore.com/main/images/Z1%20Rotara%20Z33.bmp

Stoptech
4-piston, 13-inch rotor/4-piston, 14-inch rotor/6-piston, 14-inch rotor/6-piston, 15-inch rotor (FRONT)
2-piston, 13-inch rotor/4-piston, 14-inch rotor (REAR)
MSRP- $2194.99-2994.99 (FRONT KIT). $2294.99-2494.99 (REAR KIT).
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...ech_brakes.jpg




MISCELLANEOUS

Project Mu
Brake Piston Upgrade Kit
Akebono
MSRP- $279.14 (FRONT). $167.49 (REAR).
http://image.nengun.com/catalogue/35...piston_kit.png

RCZ 05-17-2010 08:02 AM

Very Nice, much appreciated and rep added.

theDreamer 05-17-2010 08:03 AM

Wow, great thread. :tup:

keng714 05-17-2010 10:13 AM

I seen this last week. Piston upgrade
Project Mu - Upgrade Piston Kit - Nengun Performance

SE 05-17-2010 11:22 AM

Thanks guys- I'm working on getting the rest of the guide done soon.

wishihadnav 05-17-2010 05:28 PM

+1 rep...that alcon kit is pure sex!!

wishihadnav 05-17-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keng714 (Post 540666)
I seen this last week. Piston upgrade
Project Mu - Upgrade Piston Kit - Nengun Performance

nice find!..interesting.

SE 05-17-2010 07:44 PM

I'll update this as soon as I get a chance. I'm still working on the rest of the BBK and brake pads.

SE 05-17-2010 08:29 PM

If anyone can find specs on the two different Endless BBK that would be greatly appreciated.

daleks 05-17-2010 08:43 PM

Anyone know anything about Racing Brake, EBC, or Relentless Autosports? Those look like the only companies that make 2-piece floating rotors for the Akebono kit, and unfortunately I know nothing of those brands or their equipment.

SE 05-17-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleks (Post 541494)
Anyone know anything about Racing Brake, EBC, or Relentless Autosports? Those look like the only companies that make 2-piece floating rotors for the Akebono kit, and unfortunately I know nothing of those brands or their equipment.

Unfortunately I do not know much about R.A., however I do speak from experience when I say that Racing Brake makes very good, track-proven rotors. Both RB and EBC are reputable track proven companies with years of experience.

Liquid_G 05-17-2010 09:19 PM

holy crap nice work weeeee... buy that man a Sticky!.. and a beer too!

G Fo12ce 05-17-2010 09:26 PM

I made a post HERE about the Ferodo pads available for Akebono. They are not the same as what comes loaded in the Brembo kit but it's another option for those who may be interested.

wishihadnav 05-18-2010 01:02 PM

im really thinking about getting those project mu pistons, endless lines, and mocking up some titanium brakes shims...

What do you guys think about this setup??

SE 05-18-2010 01:51 PM

I would actually suggest investing in good pads, lines, and fluid first. There's no sense in buying all of the other parts and finding out you still need pads, lines, and fluid. Most drivers (doing occassional track events) will need only basic brake upgrades.

The parts you mentioned aren't really necessary and aren't a good starting point. You won't feel a noticable difference (from everything other than the brake lines), and they're pretty pricey items to start out with. Get some pads and fluid at the very minimum.

wishihadnav 05-18-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weeeee (Post 542321)
I would actually suggest investing in good pads, lines, and fluid first. There's no sense in buying all of the other parts and finding out you still need pads, lines, and fluid. Most drivers (doing occassional track events) will need only basic brake upgrades.

The parts you mentioned aren't really necessary and aren't a good starting point. You won't feel a noticable difference (from everything other than the brake lines), and they're pretty pricey items to start out with. Get some pads and fluid at the very minimum.

oh i should of clarified..yes pads and fluid are a given..these are in addition to those..people on track have been complaining of brake fade due to heatup and i figured the upgraded pistons and titanium shims would help alleviate some of this issue:tup:

SE 05-18-2010 03:33 PM

Oh ok. I still wouldn't upgrade with those items unless I knew that was the root cause of braking issues. Since it's a documented overheating issue, the cheapest and most effective route would be to invest in brake ducting. Most casual track drivers would barely feel the effects. If you wanted to be on the safe side though, pads/rotors/fluid/lines/ducting should be fine.

I've seen more documented issues with the ABS system on dedicated track cars then anything else.

abakja1 05-18-2010 04:10 PM

Can you sell Goodrich SS rear lines only for Akebono?

PM please..

SE 05-18-2010 04:20 PM

I'm not actually a vendor on here and I'm not selling parts. This was just a resource guide of parts for those looking for brake upgrades.

Ryan@IP 05-18-2010 04:23 PM

Don't forget Carbotech brake pads. Feel free to PM me or give me a call if you need some clarification between the various pad choices they offer. I have some pictures for you to use as well.

AP - Chris_B 05-18-2010 04:43 PM

AP Racing front 6P:

http://www.stillen.com/product_images/AP5700G.jpg

AP Racing rear 4P:

http://www.stillen.com/product_images/AP3750SR.jpg

STILLEN 1-Pc. Sport Rotors front:

http://www.stillen.com/product_images/INF3500.jpg

STILLEN 1-Pc. Sport Rotors rear:

http://www.stillen.com/product_images/INF3501S.jpg

And, DBA 2-piece front and rear are coming soon!

Chris

http://www.stillen.com/image.asp?/pr...es/AP5700G.jpg

ResIpsa 05-18-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weeeee (Post 542426)
Oh ok. I still wouldn't upgrade with those items unless I knew that was the root cause of braking issues. Since it's a documented overheating issue, the cheapest and most effective route would be to invest in brake ducting. Most casual track drivers would barely feel the effects. If you wanted to be on the safe side though, pads/rotors/fluid/lines/ducting should be fine.

I've seen more documented issues with the ABS system on dedicated track cars then anything else.

I agree. I think I am the first member on this forum to custom install brake ducting. I am not trying to steal anyone's thunder, please correct me if I am wrong.

And I can confirm that I did not experience ice mode on the track after installing the ducts. However, I also upgraded to CarboTech pads and Castrol SRF fluid.

wishihadnav 05-18-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weeeee (Post 542426)
Oh ok. I still wouldn't upgrade with those items unless I knew that was the root cause of braking issues. Since it's a documented overheating issue, the cheapest and most effective route would be to invest in brake ducting. Most casual track drivers would barely feel the effects. If you wanted to be on the safe side though, pads/rotors/fluid/lines/ducting should be fine.

I've seen more documented issues with the ABS system on dedicated track cars then anything else.

i agree that brake ducts would probably be a good idea but i cant find anything out there for us..too make it worse i have a Nismo model with different bumper cover...yeah i read about the abs ice mode complaints..not sure but i thought this applied to members who switch to BBS's??

SE 05-18-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AP - Chris_B (Post 542511)


Chris can you send me the MSRP and disk sizing on the AP BBK? I'll update the first page.

ResIpsa 05-19-2010 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 542642)
i agree that brake ducts would probably be a good idea but i cant find anything out there for us..too make it worse i have a Nismo model with different bumper cover...yeah i read about the abs ice mode complaints..not sure but i thought this applied to members who switch to BBS's??

I'll try to get around to posting a DIY thread with pictures this weekend. Installation requires brake tubing and zip ties. And a dremel tool for cutting.

SE 05-19-2010 12:05 PM

resipsa are you planning on taking it from the fang vents or undertray?

wishihadnav 05-19-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 543624)
I'll try to get around to posting a DIY thread with pictures this weekend. Installation requires brake tubing and zip ties. And a dremel tool for cutting.

:tup:

wishihadnav 05-19-2010 03:33 PM

im thinking about just buying some TI sheet and cutting my own shims..

ChrisSlicks 05-19-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weeeee (Post 542646)
Chris can you send me the MSRP and disk sizing on the AP BBK? I'll update the first page.

Front 6-piston kit prices and info
Rear 4-piston kit prices and info

Installation guide

ResIpsa 05-19-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weeeee (Post 543796)
resipsa are you planning on taking it from the fang vents or undertray?

Fang vents.

My brake ducts are a modification of ModShack's forced air ducts. I removed the tubing from the air boxes and routed it to the wheel wells.

I imagine you could fit a NACA duct or some other inlet to the undertray but that would start to get complicated. Even in the case of the Nismo nose you could simply drill a couple of holes in the undertray and zip tie the brake tubing on top of the undertray and directly in the air flow.

theDreamer 05-19-2010 06:50 PM

With brake cooling is it mostly about just putting fresh air onto the brakes or do you have to worry about pumping air out of the area?

SE 05-19-2010 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 544273)
With brake cooling is it mostly about just putting fresh air onto the brakes or do you have to worry about pumping air out of the area?

Fresh air onto the brake disks. You don't really have to worry about pumping air out on this type of scale unless you are running a JGTC/dedicated circuit car and even then I have rarely really seen a setup that evacuates air, just more ducts!

SE 05-19-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 544190)
Fang vents.

My brake ducts are a modification of ModShack's forced air ducts. I removed the tubing from the air boxes and routed it to the wheel wells.

I imagine you could fit a NACA duct or some other inlet to the undertray but that would start to get complicated. Even in the case of the Nismo nose you could simply drill a couple of holes in the undertray and zip tie the brake tubing on top of the undertray and directly in the air flow.

I was thinking about this, but I have never seen NACA ducts drawing in air from under the diffusers, just mainly used to help dissipate heat from the engine bay. Anyone care to chime in?

SE 05-19-2010 11:38 PM

Carbotech and Ferodo brake pads, AP Racing BBK info added to original list

RCZ 05-20-2010 10:36 AM

did you know what you were getting into when you started this thread?

tjlazer 05-20-2010 10:45 AM

Someone needs to mass produce and sell a Brake Duct cooling product for us that is easy and effective...


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