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Hard Race brand any good?
Anyone know if the hard race brand is any good?
They are available locally to me in Australia. I would get SPL but they have to be imported from the US. I don't think anything will be come down from there anytime soon and also the conversion from AUD to USD has also taken a huge hit. So until the currecny gets better, I was planning on getting Hard Race suspension parts. But I cannot find any review on them. Anyone have thoughts on them here? |
You may be able to find reviews of their parts on the UK forums. They're not widely used in the States from my experience.
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Get SPL. They are a known quantity.
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So I am probably going to have to wait until the currency value goes back up and then I can get SPL. |
I just stumbled upon the Nismo front upper arms.
https://conceptzperformance.com/nism...z4_p_37713.php Are they anywhere near as good as SPL? My friend works at Nissan parts specialist, and can get lots of Nismo parts directly from Japan for cheap. If those ones are good I could get him to get them. EDIT: OK upon more investigation, it seems the Nismo version are the exact same as the SPL brand? That is amazing if it is, my friend should be able to get them from Nissan at much cheaper price than me shipping it from the states. |
The nismo ones are made by SPL, just with different colors and higher price tag
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I mean just look:
Nismo https://conceptzperformance.com/nism...z4_p_37713.php SPL https://www.splparts.com/products/fr...-370z-g37.html There is an outright statement somewhere i just can't find it But if you have a nismo hookup that can you the Nismo version shipped to you cheaper, thats pretty awesome, they DO look like hotness. Silver-red >>> black-blue If i had money to set on fire i'd swap out my SPL stuff for new Nismo versions |
Mad!!
This would save me heaps! Because SPL will cost shitloads for me to import from US, privately. If my mate gets Nismo version from his business, it will surely be much cheaper. Going to ask him today. |
Good for SPL landing a contract or whatever working agreement or license
Basically sold their design to a big company I wonder if SPL is still manufacturing them FOR nismo, or if Nismo is building them in Japan (would make no sense to me) it would be hilarious if Nismo had to ship them from SPL in Texas to Japan to Australia for less than SPL would charge to just . . . ship them to Australia from Texas Also, is this Nismo USA? Is there even a Nismo USA? I am also amused that Nismo Japan is contracting with a texas company to sell these in 2020 for a car that came out over 10 years ago. How has Nismo not built their own arms for this car? What do Nismo race cars, like the RC version they sold years ago use for camber/caster adjustment? Those cars are stripped, caged, with monobloc brembos. I can't find a picture of their suspension setup EDIT: found this pic https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/yl...6-10-20111.jpg . . . is that a nonadjustable arm on a goddamn race car? or only adjustable at the top balljoint? |
Post #13
https://my350z.com/forum/autocross-r...-rc-drool.html Quick Info: From post #13 from the above link There are two: optioned as below or a stripper without suspension etc. SUSPENSION Shock absorbers OHLINS- adjustable height DFV 1WAY NISMO RC Fr Springs SWIFT, springs rate: 20.0kgf/mm (18.0kgf/mm & 22.0kgf/mm spring rates available on demand) Rr Springs Manufactured by NISMO for the NISMO RC, spring rate: 20.0 kgf/mm (18.0kgf/mm & 22.0kgf/mm spring rates available on demand) Link & bushes NISSAN Genuine Part Front ARB Manufactured by NISMO for the NISMO RC φ34.0 (φ28.0 and φ31.8 available on demand) Rear ARB NISSAN Genuine Part |
My understanding is that SPL makes the parts. All parts get shipped from SPL. Here in the states. No matter who you order from. The parts are shipped from SPL.
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So when did SPL start making parts for Nismo?
Is this a new thing? What year models did the Nismo 370Z start coming out with these SPL goodies? |
They aren't equipped from the factory.
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I think this started in 2018, and was revealed at Z-Days or one of the big national Z conventions where Nismo USA actually shows up
and as said above, these are NOT FACTORY EQUIPPED PARTS. They're aftermarket parts produced by SPL, licensed by Nismo, sold through whatever distributor that eventually gets them from SPL It appears that because these are now "Nismo" branded there is a Nissan part # From the Z1 listing, it LOOKS like a nissan part # to me, but i could be wrong: https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...s-p-13401.html In theory any Nissan dealer with access to nismo parts can order them, but i dunno what sort of limitations that a region's Nissan/Nismo puts on distribution Also, SPL isn't the only place to get SPL (even if parts ultimately come from their warehouse). There's other vendors that MAY be offering a better price to ship to you if they have a sale or whatever hookup on your end and have you looked HERE: https://www.splparts.com/dealers/ It's a list of dealers that includes 5 australian companies (i didn't check each link, thats on you) |
Z1 showed the parts at ZDayZ in 2018. Some of the Nismo parts were $75 higher than what SPL listed for their brand.
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That must have been recent that they supply to Australian dealers now. Because I spoke with SPL this time last year and they said they don't have Australian distributors but they were looking into it. Thanks dude, imma check them out now because my friend told me he can't find those Nismo parts in his inventory. Then he told me has only limited access to Nismo parts ;( |
i wonder if those SPL-made parts are only available through Nismo's USA network
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I have Hardrace parts on my race car, it is popular within Honda community and they manufacture parts for k-tuned and maybe some others.
Anyway, SPL is proved on our platform and I have all parts (except solid arm bushes) on my z. It has easier adjustability and they lock the alignment pretty well, I saw a new spc arm with better design compared to their older one but it seems nobody got them as the price tag is very close to spl. |
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I can't seem to find it. |
Don’t bother
Just buy the fuckin spl and be done with it |
Folks gotta stop giving this dude alternatives it isn’t helping
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They any good? |
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They fabricated FUCA for their own race car, sold maybe a few sets for some members here. It was before SPL ever made FUCA for our car. And Doran arms were significantly more expense than the SPL arms. |
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I want to try them |
you're in australia
there's probably plenty of random wilderness where you can find these |
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I can get them via eBay for much cheaper than SPL/Nismo over here. |
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Here, the Voodoo's are $836.00 list. The SPL's are $999.00 list. Damn, did they go up in price. I got mine for a little over $700.00 a couple of years ago. https://voodoo13usa.com/shop/09-370z...r-caster-arms/ https://www.splparts.com/products/fr...-370z-g37.html |
According to this listing:
https://conceptzperformance.com/vood...00_p_27943.php Voodoo only offers -2 degree of added adjustment range In contrast SPL offers -4.8. Double the range And Z1 has them for $899 https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...37-p-7360.html FRSport has them for $799 https://frsport.com/spl-spl-fua-z34-...iABEgJwNfD_BwE SPL might be jacking the price up to protect its distributors i guess |
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Ah frs price is not bad, now if only the USD would get back up to atleast 70c for 1 AUD, then I would jump onit rite away.
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I've got Hardrace FUCA and rear camber arms, so far they've been good.
Design-wise the SPL would probably be easier to adjust up front, but doesn't really matter unless you're the one doing it. |
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