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SPDKING 05-04-2019 02:32 PM

So the OEM bolt or spc bolt if I don't want to spend the money and the spc camber arms and midlink If I don't mind on doing it right. I'm going to look into both. I know for sure I don't want the increased tire wear or the crazy camber like those stance teenagers.

So essentially I can get away with what I already have or the spc bolts is what your saying? Are you positive the alignment won't get thrown off with aggressive driving with just the OEM bolt or the spc toe bolts?

OptionZero 05-04-2019 05:01 PM

It's SPL
Not SPC

SPC is an entirely different company

Camber doesn't cause increased wear, just uneven wear.
And camber is actually GOOD for handling, within limits

Have u ever been to any race track anywhere? Every car there has negative camber

There are some styles of car tuning that take it to an extreme

AlWakRa 05-04-2019 09:12 PM

Toe is the real killer for tires.

The car already has nearly -1.5 rear camber in stock form, with minimum drop it may add around 0.5 more negative camber, but the toe will increase as well. The target will be to get stock toe value (around 0.10) which may be achievable with stock toe bolts.

For track, more negative camber will make you use all the tire in turns, so you can get better heat distribution and even wear at track.



So it is either spending the money on SPL goodies or cheap out with the issue of slipping. I personally, tracked my car with SPL camber arm and SPC toe bolt, it was holding the alignment (but I was maxing the setting out).

Eagle 05-06-2019 07:45 PM

KW V3's aren't even a track coilover. They're too soft from the factory, need to be rebuilt frequently and aren't all they're cracked up to be for the 370z.

I know you said you don't want BC but i've got friends tracking those on 350zs and 370zs with Swift springs and they're pretty happy with them.

Powertrix seem to be a pretty good budget coilover for street and some track use. I have a set of these on my Z31 300ZX.

Also there's a new company with an offering for the 370z called Annex Suspension. They actually rode with me in my 370z equipped with Mines Ohlins ESTA coilovers to get a feel for them so that they could engineer some of that into their design.

I know both the owners behind these two companies and the design/engineering philosophy behind their products. I highly recommend either of them as a budget coil over.

Stay away from Megan, Godspeed, Tein, KW and HKS, the feedback i've gotten from people about those are usually around quality, adjustability and a poor ride.

Rusty 05-06-2019 08:15 PM

4 way JRZ. Step up, and be a Baller. :tup: $$$$$$

SPDKING 05-06-2019 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 3850163)
KW V3's aren't even a track coilover. They're too soft from the factory, need to be rebuilt frequently and aren't all they're cracked up to be for the 370z.

I know you said you don't want BC but i've got friends tracking those on 350zs and 370zs with Swift springs and they're pretty happy with them.

Powertrix seem to be a pretty good budget coilover for street and some track use. I have a set of these on my Z31 300ZX.

Also there's a new company with an offering for the 370z called Annex Suspension. They actually rode with me in my 370z equipped with Mines Ohlins ESTA coilovers to get a feel for them so that they could engineer some of that into their design.

I know both the owners behind these two companies and the design/engineering philosophy behind their products. I highly recommend either of them as a budget coil over.

Stay away from Megan, Godspeed, Tein, KW and HKS, the feedback i've gotten from people about those are usually around quality, adjustability and a poor ride.

Annex is a new one. How was the ride? I do like how they do the dyno testing like the others, it shows they are actually putting in the work in testing to get a desired result.

Eagle 05-07-2019 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SPDKING (Post 3850213)
Annex is a new one. How was the ride? I do like how they do the dyno testing like the others, it shows they are actually putting in the work in testing to get a desired result.

I havent personally been in a car with those coilovers but yeah they put a lot of work into dyno and road testing them. The head engineer really was going for an Ohlins like feel, best way I can describe it is compliant and pleasant on the streets and highways and stiff but in command in the twisties.

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Jv01jv01 05-07-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 3850222)
I havent personally been in a car with those coilovers but yeah they put a lot of work into dyno and road testing them. The head engineer really was going for an Ohlins like feel, best way I can describe it is compliant and pleasant on the streets and highways and stiff but in command in the twisties.

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Not to be a drag to help op we need 1st hand experience with each coil over there are so many rumors and people bad mouthing certain brands for different reasons. I have personally had ,Megan cheap ones and there double adjustable ones,stance, kw v3, I’ve driven 370z with tein monoflex which are different from tein cheap line which is made in China and there monoflex comes from japan yes a little more money but those ride the nicest from the ones listed. the cheap by and the cheap Megan’s are the same body’s from a different company if you notice all the basic 1k coilovers all have 32 clicks those are all just diff colors of the same body. I’ll have to find the old info on shocks. It’s like girls you’re friend did not like her but you date here next month and you think she the best thing going. So there is a guy that races a gt3 12k for his shocks they get rebuilt twice a season there are people get a few years out of them you can go on and on not trying to start a war but we need consistent info and not here say . Jv:drama:

Eagle 05-07-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jv01jv01 (Post 3850372)
Not to be a drag to help op we need 1st hand experience with each coil over there are so many rumors and people bad mouthing certain brands for different reasons. I have personally had ,Megan cheap ones and there double adjustable ones,stance, kw v3, I’ve driven 370z with tein monoflex which are different from tein cheap line which is made in China and there monoflex comes from japan yes a little more money but those ride the nicest from the ones listed. the cheap by and the cheap Megan’s are the same body’s from a different company if you notice all the basic 1k coilovers all have 32 clicks those are all just diff colors of the same body. I’ll have to find the old info on shocks. It’s like girls you’re friend did not like her but you date here next month and you think she the best thing going. So there is a guy that races a gt3 12k for his shocks they get rebuilt twice a season there are people get a few years out of them you can go on and on not trying to start a war but we need consistent info and not here say . Jv:drama:

lmao not trying to start a war. :rolleyes:

It's not hearsay (heresay according to you) when you have a FIA Bronze driver, 2012 Sony Playstation GT Academy Winner and Nissan driver giving you this feedback. Along with the feedback from an established grassroots motorsports program that revolves around Nissans, data acquired across the Z32, Z33, Z34 and R35 platforms. What else ya got?

You like Tein Monoflexes...odd flex but ok.

OptionZero 05-07-2019 03:47 PM

There really are only like 4 places that make coilover components. They're contracted by a billion different brands to make coilovers, and how "good" each brand's stuff is may vary based on the contracts in place

SPDKING 05-07-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3850416)
There really are only like 4 places that make coilover components. They're contracted by a billion different brands to make coilovers, and how "good" each brand's stuff is may vary based on the contracts in place

Who are those 4 places?

AlWakRa 05-07-2019 06:58 PM

Locally, Tein has a great reputation, everybody are getting them, I wouldn't say they are bad, they are good for what they are, I tried a brz with flex Z and it was much better than stock, but I could attribute it to the soft stock suspension (which is good with stock tires, but when you jump to high grip tires, you start feel they are not up to the task). The Z on the other hand, has a very well engineered suspension and good with grippy tires if you have front negative camber.


But as I said in my first response, Valving is more important than spring rates, and for that, you need a reputable custom coilovers shop. Personally, I went with MCA suspension, an Australian company, they have a big reputation there, I am very amazed with the quality and how they ride in street, although I feel the rear is softer than what I would like in track (but their customer service is good and we are talking to see what we can change in the setup), but cannot complain in street, I was going to remove my AC to make it full fledged track car, but now I think it is very streetable and wouldn't go that route.

Jv01jv01 05-07-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 3850402)
lmao not trying to start a war. :rolleyes:

It's not hearsay (heresay according to you) when you have a FIA Bronze driver, 2012 Sony Playstation GT Academy Winner and Nissan driver giving you this feedback. Along with the feedback from an established grassroots motorsports program that revolves around Nissans, data acquired across the Z32, Z33, Z34 and R35 platforms. What else ya got?

You like Tein Monoflexes...odd flex but ok.

I have 18 nismo stock susp, front bar. I driven my friends 2010 z with tein monoflex same setup as z1 motor sports spring rate I think are like 14/10 they rode the softest on the street out of all the others that I have drivien.so I can say what it-feels like not what somebody told me it feels like just saying . All others that I listed were on my other race cars. What do you got play station champ

redondoaveb 05-07-2019 09:03 PM

What about RS-R Sports i's? Any feedback? :stirthepot:

SPDKING 05-07-2019 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3850467)
What about RS-R Sports i's? Any feedback? :stirthepot:

Haha Alex actually recommended those


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