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Elmo370z 01-23-2018 12:35 AM

Rotor selection
 
(2 piece)DBA's but gosh they are hella expensive for just rotors. ( 2 piece) Z1 rotors, 2(piece) stop tech. If any has an input far as other 2 piece rotors or any insight on the ones I've listed it would be greatly appreciated.

BGTV8 01-23-2018 03:23 AM

With rotors, IMHO, you get what you pay for, but there are some tricks

Before use, I cryo-treat mine which doubles rotor life when used with ultra-agressive race pads.

Rotor bedding is mandatory (manufacturer process).

Because DBA is an Australian company (that is the A in DBA) I do tend to use them but have used Brembo in the past to good effect.

I bought rotor rings and made my own hats as I have access to a mill/lathe.

Still not cheap though.

The other thing I did was use DBA 52102 rings as these are for a domestic AUS Ford Falcon GT ... and I bought off a race team who had to order a minimum quantity of 50 - they on-sold 10 pairs (I bought 2 sets) and kept the rest for their race team so it is always worth a lateral approach. I doubt Doran Racing have any 370Z bits left but for the price of a phone call, you never know.

Cold firing helps with life and the original pair has only just been swapped after 6 years of DD and maybe 10 track sessions per year.

Whatever you do, I'd strongly recommend cold-fire treatment.

PM me if you want details.

2011 Nismo#91 01-23-2018 08:48 AM

Why do you want 2 Piece Rotors? Unless it's for looks or your running a striped down track car I don't see the benefit. Cost savings would be nice but a quality set of one piece rotors are cheaper then replacement disks for 2 piece. I went with Frozen Rotors blanks, they work well on the street and track and are not expensive.

Jayhovah 01-23-2018 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3724095)
Why do you want 2 Piece Rotors? Unless it's for looks or your running a striped down track car I don't see the benefit. Cost savings would be nice but a quality set of one piece rotors are cheaper then replacement disks for 2 piece. I went with Frozen Rotors blanks, they work well on the street and track and are not expensive.

I believe he is building a dedicated track car.

Elmo370z 01-23-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3724095)
Why do you want 2 Piece Rotors? Unless it's for looks or your running a striped down track car I don't see the benefit. Cost savings would be nice but a quality set of one piece rotors are cheaper then replacement disks for 2 piece. I went with Frozen Rotors blanks, they work well on the street and track and are not expensive.

I'm tired of blowing through rotors. Last set only last 9,000 miles with 2 track days before they were warped. Im getting fASTER and more aggressive around the track, plus i would like the unsprung weight and and heat dissipation of a 2 piece rotor.

2011 Nismo#91 01-23-2018 12:24 PM

Get 2 piece cryo treated then. :)

1st 01-23-2018 01:01 PM

Hi, Try R1 Concepts:
https://www.r1concepts.com/detail_ca...otor+silver+++

-Front and rear drill/slotted will run you about $329.00 Shipped. Use code Stop11 to get an extra 11% off

-Not 2 piece tho

B&W_Evader 01-23-2018 02:21 PM

Just ordered these this morning. Have slotted rotors right now and think they are causing excessive wear on my XP8 pads. The high carbon ones worked really good for me the first time I used them. Too bad you can't get the high carbon for the rears. (free shipping)

CENTRIC HIGH CARBON PLAIN 125 SERIES ROTOR
2 In Stock $99.00 $198.00
Note: (Front) Plain vented rotor. For sport package models.

CENTRIC PLAIN 120 SERIES ROTORS
2 In Stock $65.00 $130.00
Note: (Rear) Plain vented rotor. For sport package models.

JARblue 01-23-2018 03:02 PM

Racing Brake makes a 2-piece rotor as well. Not cheap, but very high quality.

Hotrodz 01-23-2018 03:28 PM

I run Z1 two piece rotors and so far they worn very well. The unsung weight is very noticeable up front. It makes for better turn it as effort is decreased. I don't think rears are as big a deal but unsprung weight is a good thing. It cracks me up that some will spend thousands on light weight wheels but just as well off buying light weight rotors. I did both and it has a big impact on handling, braking and acceleration. Just my two cents!

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nis350 01-23-2018 03:38 PM

what rotors and pads (sport brakes) are good value for purely commuting purposes. So anything that's as good as oem's would do. Thx.

Jayhovah 01-23-2018 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3724192)
what rotors and pads (sport brakes) are good value for purely commuting purposes. So anything that's as good as oem's would do. Thx.

Generic auto parts store blanks.

nis350 01-23-2018 07:08 PM

how about pads? The OEM pads last a very long time....

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3724195)
Generic auto parts store blanks.


Spooler 01-23-2018 08:28 PM

I have the Z1 2-piece all around and love them. The rotational mass weight reduction is very noticeable.

Spooler 01-23-2018 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3724165)
Just ordered these this morning. Have slotted rotors right now and think they are causing excessive wear on my XP8 pads. The high carbon ones worked really good for me the first time I used them. Too bad you can't get the high carbon for the rears. (free shipping)

CENTRIC HIGH CARBON PLAIN 125 SERIES ROTOR
2 In Stock $99.00 $198.00
Note: (Front) Plain vented rotor. For sport package models.

CENTRIC PLAIN 120 SERIES ROTORS
2 In Stock $65.00 $130.00
Note: (Rear) Plain vented rotor. For sport package models.

That would be a negative on increased wear. I am at half pad on a full set of XP8's with Dragon driving and street driving for over 80k miles.

Elmo370z 01-23-2018 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3724189)
I run Z1 two piece rotors and so far they worn very well. The unsung weight is very noticeable up front. It makes for better turn it as effort is decreased. I don't think rears are as big a deal but unsprung weight is a good thing. It cracks me up that some will spend thousands on light weight wheels but just as well off buying light weight rotors. I did both and it has a big impact on handling, braking and acceleration. Just my two cents!

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Getting there. I’m broke

Elmo370z 01-23-2018 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3724283)
That would be a negative on increased wear. I am at half pad on a full set of XP8's with Dragon driving and street driving for over 80k miles.

My xp8's last 4 track days

Rusty 01-24-2018 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3724182)
Racing Brake makes a 2-piece rotor as well. Not cheap, but very high quality.

I've been running the Racing Brake rotors for a couple of years now. No issues with them. Have about 20 trackdays and who knows how many street miles.

Hotrodz 01-24-2018 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3724292)
Getting there. I’m broke

LMAO, prepare to stay that way. There is always something else you need or want to change with a turbo track car. All worth it! :driving:

B&W_Evader 01-24-2018 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3724283)
That would be a negative on increased wear. I am at half pad on a full set of XP8's with Dragon driving and street driving for over 80k miles.

Are your running the slotted? Which ones?

SG4247 01-24-2018 09:48 AM

Ive steuggled with the whole brake rotor deal as well.

Been thinking about Z1 two piece. Do they really hold up to severe use without warping?

I have warped the crap out of the OEM rotors, and already turned them twice in 15k miles.

Hotrodz 01-24-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3724396)
Are your running the slotted? Which ones?

I run slotted and would recommend slotted or sprinkled overe drilled. Drilled rotors tend to get stress fractures under extreme use.

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Hotrodz 01-24-2018 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3724415)
Ive steuggled with the whole brake rotor deal as well.

Been thinking about Z1 two piece. Do they really hold up to severe use without warping?

I have warped the crap out of the OEM rotors, and already turned them twice in 15k miles.

My ex with Z1 two piece rotors have been the same as Rusty with the DBAs.

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Elmo370z 01-24-2018 10:21 AM

I’m going to with z1 of stop tech rotors and get them cryo-treated. If they fail then I’ll save up for a big brake kit.

Rusty 01-24-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3724384)
LMAO, prepare to stay that way. There is always something else you need or want to change with a turbo track car. All worth it! :driving:

You're so far down that rabbit hole. You'll never see daylight again. Until you come out the other side. :eek:

SG4247 01-24-2018 01:20 PM

HotrodZ:

You are saying these 5000 series DBA 2 piece (link below) performs similar to the Z1 rotors?

https://www.ebay.com/i/302424671587?...D1423954813673

Spooler 01-24-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3724396)
Are your running the slotted? Which ones?

Slotted and drilled. If I was doing mostly track days I would only do slotted.

Spooler 01-24-2018 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3724415)
Ive steuggled with the whole brake rotor deal as well.

Been thinking about Z1 two piece. Do they really hold up to severe use without warping?

I have warped the crap out of the OEM rotors, and already turned them twice in 15k miles.

That might be due to user error. If you get them hot, don't stand at a traffic light with the brakes pressed to hold you. That will create pad deposits and can warp the rotors.

Spooler 01-24-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3724316)
My xp8's last 4 track days

LOL, dang dude. You need a parachute. LOL

Hotrodz 01-24-2018 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3724468)
HotrodZ:

You are saying these 5000 series DBA 2 piece (link below) performs similar to the Z1 rotors?

https://www.ebay.com/i/302424671587?...D1423954813673

I would say the other way around since DBA were making them before Z!. Anyway I would be careful ordering from ebay. The one you posted are about half the price I have seen from known sources.

Elmo370z 01-25-2018 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3724478)
LOL, dang dude. You need a parachute. LOL

Sebring is hard on the car lol. I also did one at road Atlanta. I pulled the pads and was like holy ****. Prob use them for z days and that’s it.

cv129 01-25-2018 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3724496)
I would say the other way around since DBA were making them before Z!. Anyway I would be careful ordering from ebay. The one you posted are about half the price I have seen from known sources.

That ebay listing is actually per rotor lol.

Hotrodz 01-25-2018 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3724668)
That ebay listing is actually per rotor lol.

LMAO...that makes more since!:tup:

Hotrodz 01-25-2018 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3724630)
Sebring is hard on the car lol. I also did one at road Atlanta. I pulled the pads and was like holy ****. Prob use them for z days and that’s it.

LOL, I was like wtf over...but high speed tracks are killer on consumables!

Elmo370z 01-25-2018 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3724690)
LOL, I was like wtf over...but high speed tracks are killer on consumables!

You're right about that. O well nothing last forever.

Rusty 01-25-2018 05:49 PM

You play, you pay. :driving: When I was doing trackdays with the bike. That was a set of tires every weekend.

Elmo370z 03-20-2018 02:38 PM

So I’m leaning towards stop tech aero 2 piece rotors. Any thoughts

Rusty 03-20-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3740322)
So I’m leaning towards stop tech aero 2 piece rotors. Any thoughts

Price?

1st 03-20-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st (Post 3724153)
Hi, Try R1 Concepts:
https://www.r1concepts.com/detail_ca...otor+silver+++

-Front and rear drill/slotted will run you about $329.00 Shipped.

-Not 2 piece tho

http://www.the370z.com/members/1st-a...ure99598-a.jpg

1st 03-20-2018 03:37 PM

http://www.the370z.com/members/1st-a...ure99617-a.jpg


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