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370zBoyz 09-06-2017 09:01 PM

Wheel alignment and pulling while braking
 
I recently purchased a certified used 17 nismo with ~8500 (carfax stated it was a fleet vehicle :/)

I noticed i have to hold the wheel to the left to keep the car straight and if i center the wheel to the center it pulls to the right...the local mechanic said the alignment was fine and ended up cross rotating my front tires but the issue still persists. Additionally, the car seems to pull sometimes left or right on somewhat hard braking.

Any ideas what parts to inspect or what might be causing it? I presume it needs an alignment anyway but will this resolve the brake pull?

https://s26.postimg.org/9tmdww995/IMG_0485.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/z0x9x5cd5/IMG_0486.jpg

BGTV8 09-06-2017 10:01 PM

I could be wrong, but it looks like you have toe out at the rear, not toe in, and that will make the car nervous which is what you are describing (is steering from the rear)

Try another alignment shop if I am right.

Anyone else ??

MaysEffect 09-06-2017 10:11 PM

Other than the rear camber being too negative, nothing is unusual. The toe setting will change with camber adjustment, so finding a competent mechanic that wont flip out when this happens is important. I'm not going to advertise spending money on adjustable control arms.

Unfortunately steering wandering under braking and cruising is just a nature of the car do to the low caster and anti-dive design. Increasing Toe-in on the rear will help marginally.

Keeping some additional weight in the rear should help a bit too. Just depends if you want the weight penalty.

nis350 09-08-2017 01:00 AM

while the alignment is within spec, I would much prefer to have the same settings for both sides. The toe setting is quite different. Also ensure that the steering wheel is dead center before the adjustment.

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Originally Posted by 370zBoyz (Post 3691177)
I recently purchased a certified used 17 nismo with ~8500 (carfax stated it was a fleet vehicle :/)

I noticed i have to hold the wheel to the left to keep the car straight and if i center the wheel to the center it pulls to the right...the local mechanic said the alignment was fine and ended up cross rotating my front tires but the issue still persists. Additionally, the car seems to pull sometimes left or right on somewhat hard braking.

Any ideas what parts to inspect or what might be causing it? I presume it needs an alignment anyway but will this resolve the brake pull?

https://s26.postimg.org/9tmdww995/IMG_0485.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/z0x9x5cd5/IMG_0486.jpg


jchammond 09-08-2017 02:39 AM

R/R too is more than L/R, causing the rear to go left on a straight away-thus pushing the front to the right (causing you to hold tension to left to keep straight).
Even though it's lit up green; the R/R is causing your mis-aligned steering wheel.
Be prepared for them to do it again...they should have noticed your camber in the red on L/R....if they start by adjusting your camber on L/R to match the R/R,,, this will also turn your left rear inward (more positive toe) like the right side.
As one adjustment affects the other.
Rear should be dang near same on both sides & also the front....but they need to start over & do it again....many different reasons can cause brakes to pull/ but definitely alignment is off.

jchammond 09-08-2017 02:44 AM

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I'd have things set at nominal ranges; pending on what your plans are for the car.


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jchammond 09-08-2017 02:53 AM

I'm also surprised that caster is that low; especially on a Nismo....non adjustable unless you get from upper control arms (fuca's).
More caster will make turning a bit firmer & steering wheel will follow back up quicker.
Track cars dial there's up pretty high.

jchammond 09-08-2017 03:12 AM

One last thing to add.....Those "Red" illuminated settings; are an indication something is not within specs.
This should have been seen & repaired,,,he may not be familiar with adjusting the eccentrics on rear,,,I agree w/BGTV8 & take to another shop...then get a re-fund (if you paid for this one)

osbornsm 09-08-2017 11:58 AM

Here... use the non-sucky alignment thread i made here.

Your toe should be the same side to side but not front to back.

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...ent-specs.html

370zBoyz 09-18-2017 10:34 PM

here is what it got corrected to..seems to drive better now
https://s26.postimg.org/if7njbndl/IMG_0494.jpg

Spooler 09-18-2017 10:48 PM

^^^ That is much better. It was whacked before. It does still have a little too much toe in for the front. .08 toe in for the front would be better.


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