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import111 12-12-2009 05:04 PM

toe bolts?
 
So I ordered some rear toe bolts, SPL's part # 72265 for my 370Z. When the shop went to install them they saw that they are exactly the same as what is already on the car stock. What went wrong? Wrong part #? Do they go in a different place?

ChrisSlicks 12-12-2009 05:44 PM

You already have factory toe bolts that allow for the full range of adjustment, perhaps you meant camber bolts? The stock camber is maxed out at -2.0 in the rear at stock right height.

import111 12-12-2009 05:58 PM

I am on BC racing BR series coilovers and SPL rear camber arms with alignment #'s of...

Toe: 0 all 4 corners
Camber: -1.3F / -1.7R

I want -1.2R camber but as low as I am if they dial in less camber the toe gets messed up and the stock toe bolts are maxed out.

ChrisSlicks 12-12-2009 06:11 PM

I was of the understanding that the SPL part should have a greater range than the stock part, but you'll have to wait for someone that has installed it. I only have the SPC Camber arms up front and my rear camber is set to -1.6 with stock suspension.

03Z33 12-13-2009 07:19 PM

Yes, SPC toe/camber bolts will allow for great adjustment range (approximately +/- 3 degrees) vs. the stock bolts which max out at around +/- 1.5/2.0 degrees. When lowering the car you will need the additional range of adjustment from the SPC bolts.

import111 12-17-2009 07:11 PM

I measured the cam part of the stock toe bolts and the SPC toe bolts today and the SPC's are 1mm bigger. Is that going to allow for that much more adjustment?

import111 12-18-2009 05:58 PM

Bump, need an answer on this soon.

Mike 12-19-2009 09:16 AM

best bet is to contact SPC

jmlenz 01-20-2010 06:40 PM

Im about to lower my 370 on coilovers and was looking for an answer to the same thing. I will be getting the Eibach or SPC rear camber arms but do I also need these toe bolts? I have heard conflicting information. Help!

azn370z 01-20-2010 07:24 PM

I think you get the greater range of toe adjustment by drilling a wider hole where the bolt goes.

I installed my coilovers and rear camber arm but didn't install the toe kit. The corner balance is so worth it. I had them make the rear of the car slightly higher than the front. Left right 51%, 49% and front rear 54 46.

import111 01-20-2010 07:40 PM

My SPC toe bolts worked. My Z now has a much better alignment.

jmlenz 01-24-2010 08:26 PM

import111 > so those where the proper part numbers or did you have to get another set?

import111 01-24-2010 10:08 PM

They were the proper part #. They fit and worked perfect.

Liquid_G 01-26-2010 04:40 PM

Hey guys was going to start a sep thread on this but kind of goes with this one...

I put in my coilovers myself, (Stance GR+) also ordered the SPC rear camber arms..

Did anyone really widen out the part of the frame with a rotary tool like they say you are supposed to for that eccentric toe bolt? Just find it funny that in DDM's write-up of the camber arm install, it doesn't mention that at all.
I was going to let the alignment shop deal with that but was curious if anyone knew..

03Z33 01-26-2010 06:52 PM

Yes, you need to widen the hole in the subframe slightly, it's very easy to do with a grinder, drill bit or even a hand file. The material is aluminum and very easy to work with.

You only need to widen the hole in one direction if the car is lowered, I believe it's towards the center of the car to pull the toe arm inwards which helps correct the extreme toe-in. You could widen the whole both ways but I doubt anyone here would ever need the additional toe-in adjustment.

jmlenz 02-04-2010 07:03 PM

so from what I'm gathering from this thread is that you will be fine with the factory toe adjustments if you go with the SPL rear camber arms (not toe bolt kit) as long as you don't want rear camber less than about -1.7deg?

AAAAAND...you will need to open up the hole in the subframe with the SPL camber arms?

azn370z 02-04-2010 07:16 PM

Camber arms don't require widening the holes. Maybe you meant toe bolts? I told my alignment guy not to install toe kit, he told me it should be installed. But after the alignment he told me alignment is ok no need to install toe kit.

xxAGAVExx 04-22-2015 07:57 AM

Resurrecting this thread, instead of making new one. I installed SPL rear camber arms, still can't get camber in spec (-2.5), tech said toe is the limiting factor. I'm on swift springs. Going to install toe bolts, but why do I need new bolts if I need to widen the hole anyway for more adjustment, won't the stock bolts still work, or is it just good practice to upgrade since SPC bolts are a little larger/stronger?

tturbo370z 04-22-2015 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxAGAVExx (Post 3175809)
Resurrecting this thread, instead of making new one. I installed SPL rear camber arms, still can't get camber in spec (-2.5), tech said toe is the limiting factor. I'm on swift springs. Going to install toe bolts, but why do I need new bolts if I need to widen the hole anyway for more adjustment, won't the stock bolts still work, or is it just good practice to upgrade since SPC bolts are a little larger/stronger?

Also curios as I planned on replacing my full spc system will complete spl at some point and knowledge is power or atleast a thicker not thinner wallet by trial and error :rofl2:

Hotrodz 04-22-2015 08:30 AM

SPC toe bolts work just fine! I have SPL everything else, but everyone I spoke with said there was no need to get a different toe bolt.

tturbo370z 04-22-2015 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3175834)
SPC toe bolts work just fine! I have SPL everything else, but everyone I spoke with said there was no need to get a different toe bolt.

Good to know :tup: thanks hotrodz

Sorry to thread jack the revival of this thread :wtf2: carry on

Chuy 04-22-2015 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxAGAVExx (Post 3175809)
Resurrecting this thread, instead of making new one. I installed SPL rear camber arms, still can't get camber in spec (-2.5), tech said toe is the limiting factor. I'm on swift springs. Going to install toe bolts, but why do I need new bolts if I need to widen the hole anyway for more adjustment, won't the stock bolts still work, or is it just good practice to upgrade since SPC bolts are a little larger/stronger?

I had toe bolts on my last Z, but after I put them on I was wondering the same thing.

NORAIN 04-22-2015 03:19 PM

The SPC's have a larger washer increasing the adjustment range. I was able to get to -2 camber and 1/32" toe in without them, with them I now have -1.75 camber and same toe in. Could probably get less camber if I wanted to.

Hotrodz 04-22-2015 04:14 PM

I'm at -1.6 and 1/32...

xxAGAVExx 04-22-2015 09:08 PM

Thanks guys, looks like I'll try and install the SPC tie bolts this weekend. :)


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