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imag 11-11-2009 10:47 AM

Even the E92 needs a BBK for serious track work
 
Don't get me wrong - I got a ride in an E92 M3 on the track two weekends ago, so I realize its stock brakes are hold up better than ours. That said, I was looking into issues with the sliding calipers they use and found this thread:

Why does BMW not use Brembo brakes - M3 Forum 2010 2009 BMW M3 2008 BMW M3 BMW E90 M3 E92

Their brake problems, in the end, don't sound that much different than ours. The brakes definitely have a higher tolerance, but for serious track work, they aren't enough. That made me feel a bit better about the Z.

Also funny - there are a few people on that thread who are doing full StopTech kits for looks alone. E92 owners have a bit more money to burn than most of us.

RCZ 11-11-2009 11:48 AM

Yeah, anyone who does track their M3 knows they have to change pads immediately.

imag 11-11-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 276010)
Yeah, anyone who does track their M3 knows they have to change pads immediately.

Agreed. I was just surprised that pads aren't even enough in some cases. I was also surprised that the E92 still uses sliding calipers.

Say what you will about Porsche (and I do!), but at least they put real stoppers on their cars. 'Course they charge way too much, but still.

I would be pissed at having a $60K M3 that needed a BBK to avoid fade in a 1/2 hour session.

AP - Chris_B 11-19-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imag (Post 275912)
Don't get me wrong - I got a ride in an E92 M3 on the track two weekends ago, so I realize its stock brakes are hold up better than ours. That said, I was looking into issues with the sliding calipers they use and found this thread:

Why does BMW not use Brembo brakes - M3 Forum 2010 2009 BMW M3 2008 BMW M3 BMW E90 M3 E92

Their brake problems, in the end, don't sound that much different than ours. The brakes definitely have a higher tolerance, but for serious track work, they aren't enough. That made me feel a bit better about the Z.

This is exactly why a full AP Racing front/rear system was done for those guys as well:

E92 M3 AP Racing BBK Review (long) - M3 Forum 2010 2009 BMW M3 2008 BMW M3 BMW E90 M3 E92

Problem solved (even if BMW wasn't the one to solve it)!

Chris

imag 11-19-2009 08:45 PM

That guy really seems bummed with the upgrade :)

I can't wait until I can do my BBK. Two more track days left for me in this year; hopefully I'll be able to afford brakes and KWs for the start of 2010 season...

It's nice to just not have to worry, especially when it comes to brakes.


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