Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Brakes & Suspension (http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspension/)
-   -   Advanation sway bar? (http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspension/100389-advanation-sway-bar.html)

CaramelSwag 01-30-2015 10:02 AM

Advanation sway bar?
 
Has anyone heard of Advanation for sway bars? I haven't found much on them. What I did find it sounds like they suck at timely shipping, but the products are solid. I've only found reviews on BMW parts though. I haven't heard anything on Z products though. any help would be greatly appreciated! 30.33 front and 25.36 for rear w/ install kit for $130.

nismolucino 01-30-2015 10:18 AM

Judging by the fact that its an ebay store alone Id stay away.

Tadpole 01-30-2015 01:27 PM

For the price it wouldnt be too much of a hit if you bought them and tried them out. Supposidly 40% more rigid but those are just words.

brancky3 01-30-2015 02:12 PM

Looks like it is the same as the Godspeed sways listed in the sticky. I've only seen one mention of a review on this site: HERE (from this thread)

kenchan 01-30-2015 03:19 PM

instead of buying some misc bar on ebay, why not just get the kangaroo bar with the modified bushings and call it a day?

CaramelSwag 01-30-2015 07:16 PM

Please elaborate on the kangaroo bar?

kenchan 01-30-2015 07:44 PM

Whiteline from down under..

brancky3 01-30-2015 08:50 PM

Even the cheap bars should be better than stock, right? For someone that just enjoys a drive in the mountains without track time, that is.

nismolucino 01-30-2015 08:51 PM

Not if theyre made of low quality steel and possibly break

Tadpole 01-31-2015 08:32 AM

Buy them and review them OP. I seriously doubt they will break but flexing/warping issues might happen.
I'm no suspension expert by any means so I would love to hear more opinions

brancky3 01-31-2015 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3097857)
Buy them and review them OP. I seriously doubt they will break but flexing/warping issues might happen.
I'm no suspension expert by any means so I would love to hear more opinions

I bought a set, delivery estimate says 2/3 - 2/10. Worst case scenario is I spent $130 poorly which wouldn't break my heart.

CaramelSwag 01-31-2015 09:47 AM

Cool brancky! Youll have to let me know how they are.

brancky3 02-09-2015 04:31 PM

Bars came in today, hopefully installing tomorrow afternoon. Will keep you posted.

Rusty 02-09-2015 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3106589)
Bars came in today, hopefully installing tomorrow afternoon. Will keep you posted.

Measure the diameter of the bars and post please. And if you can tell if they are hollow or a solid bar.:tiphat:

Tadpole 02-09-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3106589)
Bars came in today, hopefully installing tomorrow afternoon. Will keep you posted.

Take a few pics and post dims too.

In for the review.. :pics:

brancky3 02-09-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3106613)
Measure the diameter of the bars and post please. And if you can tell if they are hollow or a solid bar.:tiphat:

Will do. They're very heavy, I'll get weight as well

CaramelSwag 02-09-2015 10:45 PM

Cool, im looking forward to hearing your feedback

brancky3 02-10-2015 09:22 AM

4 Attachment(s)
Advertised measurements are accurate - 30.3mm for the front and 25.36mm for the rear.
Rear bar is ~10lbs, front bar is ~16lbs - not sure how to tell if they are hollow, I'm sure as hell not cutting one in half! :tup:

The bars came with the paint chipped in a few spots, not a big deal but it definitely happened pre-shipping (they were packed well). The middle brackets are welded on (not crimped) which I believe is the same for other sway bars as well? Pics are attached

Rusty 02-10-2015 10:56 AM

To tell if they are a solid bar or not. Look at the ends of the bars. A hollow bar, the end will look like a piece of pipe smashed closed. with a seam in it. A solid bar will not have that seam. It will look look a solid piece. From what I can tell, they look like a solid bar. Can you take a picture of the ends?

brancky3 02-10-2015 11:01 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3107410)
To tell if they are a solid bar or not. Look at the ends of the bars. A hollow bar, the end will look like a piece of pipe smashed closed. with a seam in it. A solid bar will not have that seam. It will look look a solid piece. From what I can tell, they look like a solid bar. Can you take a picture of the ends?

I don't see any seams. This is the rear bar, the front is already installed.

Rusty 02-10-2015 11:03 AM

They're solid.

CaramelSwag 02-10-2015 11:04 AM

Nice! How was the install? Did everything fit right? Overall first impressions?

brancky3 02-10-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaramelSwag (Post 3107422)
Nice! How was the install? Did everything fit right? Overall first impressions?

Front was ezpz, everything lined up perfectly - you have to reuse the stock bar clamps on the front so fitment is great. I drove it down my street real quick and nothing bad happened, It could be placebo effect but the front end seems more stout.

I didn't have time to do the rear, but it shouldn't be that much harder - just more things to remove before you can get the bar out.

Tadpole 02-10-2015 12:11 PM

they look good. I wouldn't worry about chips in the paint considering no one will see them unless it's on a lift. If you do an extended drive and post up a good review on these I will buy a set myself.

CaramelSwag 02-10-2015 01:56 PM

Same here. I'm curious since they're non adjustable how much of an effect that has. Let us know how it handles longer ride, bumpy ride, and aggressive turns. Please and Thanks!

kenchan 02-10-2015 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3097525)
Even the cheap bars should be better than stock, right? For someone that just enjoys a drive in the mountains without track time, that is.

nnnnn... i would not think so. sway bars are an intricate part of the suspension. i wouldnt want to put just any bar on my car..


keep us posted how you like them...

Tadpole 02-10-2015 03:27 PM

If they are better than stock and inexpensive quite a few of us are interested. I will stamp them tadpole sway bars to give it a legit name!

CaramelSwag 02-10-2015 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3107798)
If they are better than stock and inexpensive quite a few of us are interested. I will stamp them tadpole sway bars to give it a legit name!

Haha, I think the swag bar sounds better.:tup:

brancky3 02-10-2015 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaramelSwag (Post 3107903)
Haha, I think the swag bar sounds better.:tup:

If you call it a swag bar again you're never getting a review, I'll take it off my car immediately :roflpuke2:

CaramelSwag 02-10-2015 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3107933)
If you call it a swag bar again you're never getting a review, I'll take it off my car immediately :roflpuke2:

Its OK to be jealous :bowrofl:

synolimit 02-11-2015 04:43 AM

tell me if im wrong but lets say you have different size bars, the bigger will obviously be stronger and im pretty sure better for the Z in the front. however...lets say you have all non-adjustable bars. depending where the mounting hole is will actually act differently with strength. i tried to do this before but no one chimed in.

based on just a round tube the Hotchkis is without a doubt the strongest based on moment of inertia even being hollow over say the whiteline at 27mm solid. Calculator for Engineers - Area Moment of Inertia, centroid, section modulus. the thing is though sway bars aren't just round tube. they bend in and out and then the mounting hole will be different for all. the whitelines obviously adjustable. the closest mounting hole to the flat original shape of just a round tube will add strength to the bar. a 32mm bar with a single hole further out should be weaker than a 31mm bar with a closer hole. depending of course how far out are we're talking.

all i want to know is, if you put your bars flat against a wall on the long smooth part of the bar and measure out the the start of your mounting holes, what do you get? i can measure the stock and whitelines 2 holes. id like to know these and Hotchkis as well.

Tadpole 02-11-2015 05:40 AM

We shall call this the swag bar going forward. That sounds better!

brancky3 02-11-2015 07:43 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3108335)
all i want to know is, if you put your bars flat against a wall on the long smooth part of the bar and measure out the the start of your mounting holes, what do you get? i can measure the stock and whitelines 2 holes. id like to know these and Hotchkis as well.

Like this? (This is the rear bar)

EDIT: Actually I propped the bar up straight and the middle of the hole is at 149mm.

kenchan 02-11-2015 09:01 AM

i mean wat is the material made out of (wat alloy)? that changes everything.. length to hole alone isnt really an accurate way to measure torsion spring rate.

kenchan 02-11-2015 09:02 AM

try to bend a steel bar.. hard
try to bend a brass bar.. not as hard
try to bend a cooper bar.. lol

brancky3 02-11-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3108534)
i mean wat is the material made out of (wat alloy)? that changes everything.. length to hole alone isnt really an accurate way to measure torsion spring rate.

That logic could be applied to all sway bars on the market, any vendor can tell you it's made out of 'x'.

kenchan 02-11-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3108590)
That logic could be applied to all sway bars on the market, any vendor can tell you it's made out of 'x'.

then why u measuring? lol

kenchan 02-11-2015 10:11 AM

my mug can handle 12oz.

measure the height of the mug to see if it matches my mug... if it does, then my mug must also measure 12oz. :tup: never mind the diameter and the other parameters like thickness, etc.

:ugh:

brancky3 02-11-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3108630)
my mug can handle 12oz.

measure the height of the mug to see if it matches my mug... if it does, then my mug must also measure 12oz. :tup: never mind the diameter and the other parameters like thickness, etc.

:ugh:

Measuring to see how they compare with other sway bars on the market. I realize the hole for the end link is not exactly comparable unless the bars are the same material, but diameter should be a decent indicator.

kenchan 02-11-2015 11:00 AM

would suck if ebay suddenly snapped mid-turn, huh?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:23 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2