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kenchan 03-14-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by speedracer007 (Post 2212574)
Since you have a Pioneer unit like mine I have a question.

On the drive home was I was running the WAZE app on my phone. I noticed if I had Pandora running, or selected Bluetooth Audio on the Pioneer unit, the WAZE instructions would come out of the car stereo speakers.:tup:

However, when I had the Radio or USB selected, the WAZE would not cut into the music and come out over the car stereo speakers.:shakes head:

Is that a limitation of the unit, or do I have some setting wrong?

I need to do a test tonight with making a phone call to my cell phone while I have the different functions up and running on the Pioneer to see what is happening.

i use an android device so dont have WAZE... :ugh2: i run nuvi in my car for nav as it also becomes my obd2 digital gauge. :D

speedracer007 03-14-2013 02:36 PM

Yes, I have Android also (Droid Bionic). WAZE App is available for Android and I have been using it for the past 4 months (Actually found out about it on this forum). Just curious why the bluetooth audio from it will take priority (turns down the music) while running Pandora (or Bluetooth Audio) but NOT if I have the Radio or USB function running. I am pretty sure an incoming phone call will turn down the source regardless of what function the Headunit is in (still need to test this)

kenchan 03-14-2013 02:50 PM

ok, i dont like visiting this thread any more cause each time i do, i feel stupid. :icon17:

:p

cheshirecat 03-14-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedracer007 (Post 2212574)
Since you have a Pioneer unit like mine I have a question. On the drive home was I was running the WAZE app on my phone. I noticed if I had Pandora running, or selected Bluetooth Audio on the Pioneer unit, the WAZE instructions would come out of the car stereo speakers.:tup:
However, when I had the Radio or USB selected, the WAZE would not cut into the music and come out over the car stereo speakers.:shakes head:
Is that a limitation of the unit, or do I have some setting wrong?

The audio is streaming from the phone through the selected bluetooth sources (which Pandora uses).

You're hearing it because its overlapping on that same generic bluetooth audio streaming channel which basically sends all audio coming out of your device (with a few exceptions).

It's normal for you not to be able to hear it through the car speakers when the head unit is set to another source. You can, however, make both your phone speakers and bluetooth speakers output the sound if you want. The way to do that differs based on your phone's build of Android, but usually there will be a little settings icon next to the popup window that comes on your phone as you turn the volume up/down.

Cbtech 03-14-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by speedracer007 (Post 2213422)
Yes, I have Android also (Droid Bionic). WAZE App is available for Android and I have been using it for the past 4 months (Actually found out about it on this forum). Just curious why the bluetooth audio from it will take priority (turns down the music) while running Pandora (or Bluetooth Audio) but NOT if I have the Radio or USB function running. I am pretty sure an incoming phone call will turn down the source regardless of what function the Headunit is in (still need to test this)

I dont know of any head unit would turn down the sound down letting the BT take priority over a selected function i.e. GPS is saying turn left while listening to a CD pauses/mutes the CD for the BT and then resumes.

When a call comes through the head unit WILL pause/mute all other functions to allow the call to come through since the head unit sees this as a function change and not an audio change.

Make sense? :icon14:

UruZai 03-14-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by P-Kidd (Post 2213068)
Hopefully everyone has steered you away from Crutchfield. (however they do have an awesome support team) I got the same deck from Amazon $100 cheaper. As far as the dash kit, I used the OEM one. Check out the pics on page one of this post. I did not have to modify it and it sits flush without any gaps. Plus you don't have to worry about the AC control issue. Installation was rather easy.

Well I haven't bought it yet but maybe when I get my tax returns. After all the info I've been getting ill probably just order from amazon. Thanks for letting me know about the dash, I was thinking that I have to order the dash kit :tup:

speedracer007 03-15-2013 08:12 AM

Cbtech & chesirecat,

Both great answers to my question (yes I think both of you are correct). If I am driving somewhere where I REALLY need to be using the WAZE App, I will just make my listening choice for that trip be Pandora.

UruZai -- I definitely recommend the Pioneer units. They look great and if you are an Android person, do have the Pandora bluetooth functionality which is nice. Although I am still planning on upgrading the speakers, the Pioneer unit alone makes the stock speakers sound 100% better. Make sure you check out the "Sticky" at the top of this forum "The Install Videos", especially Video #3. Walks you through every step to get the OEM headunit out.

kenchan 03-15-2013 03:43 PM

im still contemplating if i should get the 2500bt for my dd since im so happy with my 4500bt in my Z. :icon17:

kenchan 04-01-2013 11:55 AM

anyone care to share your 4500BT audio setting on your Z running factory speakers? :)

i remember bumping up around 400hz and using loudness on high and bass boost at +2.

bigaudiofanat 04-01-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2244713)
anyone care to share your 4500BT audio setting on your Z running factory speakers? :)

i remember bumping up around 400hz and using loudness on high and bass boost at +2.

Keeping loud off and bass boost will help make your speakers last longer. Just keep that in mind.

kenchan 04-01-2013 01:33 PM

^^ i agree. i dont blast my stereo loud at all cause i like to hear my exhaust mostly while the car's rolling, and listen to music while im at a light. so my volume is low. on the HU volume indicator, i rarely go above 9. that said, i need the loudness and bass boost turned on as i cant hear the full range with the loudish exhaust.

Teddy KGB 04-14-2013 04:38 PM

Just put a Pioneer AVH-x5500bhs in my Tundra. Love it! Those with iphone 5's looking into any of the new Pioneer's get to pay near $150 bucks to get all the proper cables. You'll still need the firmware update due out this month. It's a bit ridiculous, but not many HU's support the 5 at all.

kenchan 04-14-2013 05:02 PM

it's been about a month now with the 4500BT. very good. im real happy i got the HU.

one thing though... wish there was a way to turn off the clock.

cossie1600 04-14-2013 06:10 PM

I give mine a 3 star as there are some little quirks, 4 stars if I can get my phone to connect to it using the apps. If you have an Android phone, you might not be able to use the App feature or the Pandora feature on this HU.

kenchan 04-14-2013 06:15 PM

pandora works fine on my unit, per the other post.

cossie1600 04-14-2013 06:18 PM

I can talk on the phone and stream music via bluetooth. I just can't use the Pandora app on the HU. Is there something special that you have to do? When I go into Pandora, it says I need to register a unit or something

Cbtech 04-14-2013 08:55 PM

I don't like that it doesn't play flac files. Streaming and usb mp3's sound muddy compaired to burned discs. Even streamed Bluetooth flac sound muddy. Those same flac files burned to disc sound 5 times better.

Cbtech 04-14-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2266891)
I can talk on the phone and stream music via bluetooth. I just can't use the Pandora app on the HU. Is there something special that you have to do? When I go into Pandora, it says I need to register a unit or something

Make sure you update your Pandora app. Mine connected right away.

cossie1600 04-14-2013 09:22 PM

I have Pandora v4.2 on my Android. I did more research. So I guess radio app mode doesn't work with Android. The only thing I can use is Pandora, but then that doesn't even work.

Cbtech 04-14-2013 09:42 PM

Yeah sorry meant to mention that...kinda lame that we can't have apps too :mad:

speedracer007 04-15-2013 12:23 PM

Pandora App for Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2266891)
I can talk on the phone and stream music via bluetooth. I just can't use the Pandora app on the HU. Is there something special that you have to do? When I go into Pandora, it says I need to register a unit or something


Have you set the Pandora Connect mode to "Bluetooth"? Default setting if I remember correctly is "Wired", which is what you have to do with an Iphone.

See page 29 of the Pioneer manual.

cossie1600 04-15-2013 04:46 PM

Duh you have to open the program, the deck can't force phone to turn it on

LostSol 04-15-2013 04:58 PM

Actually, with my nexus connected via Bluetooth, I can click pandora on the head unit and it starts pandora on the phone and takes over control quite quickly.

kenchan 04-16-2013 09:23 AM

yah, mine too. im not sure what the issue is on cossie's phone? :confused:

mine's a Droid4 running jellybean.

Cbtech 04-16-2013 10:04 AM

Yup mine too

kenchan 04-16-2013 10:18 AM

i need to figure out a way on my phone side to turn off screen while in my pocket. ive had instances where im done calling my wife, hung up, and my phone re-dials by accident.

or while pandora is turned on, the screen is also on.

Cbtech 04-16-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2269224)
i need to figure out a way on my phone side to turn off screen while in my pocket. ive had instances where im done calling my wife, hung up, and my phone re-dials by accident.

or while pandora is turned on, the screen is also on.

What kind of phone is it?

The SIII's tend to stay on, which I think is due to the face recognition keeping the screen on because it thinks something is looking at it or at least moving.Most android phones have options to turn off the screen after a certain time if the face recon feature is turned off.

cossie1600 04-16-2013 01:05 PM

I tried it again yesterday. Pandora definitely won't run by itself. If it was opened in the background, then it can recognize and open the program. I usually don't listen to Pandora, so I guess it doesn't matter. I did put the $19.99 bypass in, works great.

I am still pissed about the lack of app mode, arggg. I should have bought the Appradio as I don't watch DVD or drive much anyway

kenchan 04-16-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2269546)
What kind of phone is it?

The SIII's tend to stay on, which I think is due to the face recognition keeping the screen on because it thinks something is looking at it or at least moving.Most android phones have options to turn off the screen after a certain time if the face recon feature is turned off.

motorola droid4. i think i can turn on the security screen and that should work. will try it later on. :)

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2269625)
I tried it again yesterday. Pandora definitely won't run by itself. If it was opened in the background, then it can recognize and open the program. I usually don't listen to Pandora, so I guess it doesn't matter. I did put the $19.99 bypass in, works great.

I am still pissed about the lack of app mode, arggg. I should have bought the Appradio as I don't watch DVD or drive much anyway

hummmm... that's odd. :tup: on the bypass. i have one in my dd since i run dvd more often in that car. i dont ever watch dvd's in my Z either.

can you return your unit and replace it with that appradio2? :confused:
if you bought it from amazon, they have great return policies.

cossie1600 04-16-2013 06:00 PM

I am considering it as the appradio2 seems to do what I want a little bit better, but then the AVH-4500 seems more reliable and less buggy. I wonder if Pioneer will ever come up with a firmware update to make it more Android compatible? Even on the Appradio 2, you need to plug it in each time rather than having everything done via bluetooth.

speedracer007 04-17-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2268220)
Duh you have to open the program, the deck can't force phone to turn it on

I got in the Z this morning, started it up, selected Pandora on the HU, and the PHONE AUTOMATICALLY STARTED THE PANDORA APP without me touching it. Only thing I have to do is make sure the volume on the phone is on Max. :tiphat:

LostSol 04-17-2013 12:09 PM

How well can you guys see your screens during the day? I feel like mine is washed out.

Cbtech 04-17-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LostSol (Post 2271316)
How well can you guys see your screens during the day? I feel like mine is washed out.

Same here

kenchan 04-17-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2270200)
I am considering it as the appradio2 seems to do what I want a little bit better, but then the AVH-4500 seems more reliable and less buggy. I wonder if Pioneer will ever come up with a firmware update to make it more Android compatible? Even on the Appradio 2, you need to plug it in each time rather than having everything done via bluetooth.

kinda tuff cause androids are all different by manufacturer. some phone apps work on one android device while might not work on other brand phones, etc.

pioneer would have a hell of a time trying to accomodate each phone... and we all know about all the crybabies out there. :shakes head:


i dont really stare at my 4500BT while driving and i haven't really noticed it was washed out?

my 2500BT appears washed out on a bright day due to where it's located on my dd. it's not too bad though.

cheshirecat 04-18-2013 10:18 AM

For my old 8400bt, the screen was kind of "washed out" until I changed the brightness and contrast settings to give the screen a better black level. Try this in the settings.

Coon-azz 04-18-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by P-Kidd (Post 2117305)
I am week old owner of a 2013 370Z. I must say the site is very informative and aided me greatly installing the AVH Pioneer. Sorry about the glare on the screen... facing the sun... no tint yet.

Yep. Same one I put in my 2012; AVH Pioneer X4500BT. Did the video mod and works great. Love the system as it works directly with my iPhone4s. Just step into the car and audio plays from the iPod and or Pandora via BT. Now I just need to get the Advanced Apps part working...

cossie1600 04-18-2013 12:43 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/1811/dsc6474u.jpg

kenchan 04-18-2013 12:57 PM

looking good so far, cossie! :tup: you got more gap than mine around the bezel. hummmm.... is that on tilt?

you going to hardwire all those loose wires right? :confused:

cossie1600 04-18-2013 01:04 PM

Yes the screen is on tilt, I found the screen is easier to read tilted. (one of the main reason why i went with 4500 rather than 2500)

http://imageshack.us/a/img809/4199/dsc6472e.jpg

I will fix the wire eventually (waiting for parts to come in), been rough trying to work on the car while babysitting.

By the way. The bluetooth works good on my end, but everyone who spoke to me said there is so much road noise on the other side that it makes it impossible for them to hear. Do you guys have a fix?

kenchan 04-18-2013 01:30 PM

sounds good, cossie.

you can place the mic at the corner of the driver side a-pillar and ceiling, or where i put it, which is next to the rear view mirror on the ceiling. both locations work fine. :)

just clip the mic clip into the ceiling and it should hold pretty securely.


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