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Evil Sports 05-14-2011 05:30 PM

Stock Nav, pros and cons
 
Is the stock Nav worth it, does it offer flexibility for back up cams, watching DVDs and other custom stuff??
Please Discuss.

svmtbman 05-14-2011 11:06 PM

The 2011 comes with a backup cam on the nav. I'm loving mine, it's so much easier to use than the idrive nav in my BMW.

Red__Zed 05-14-2011 11:16 PM

The nav unit is one of the better OEM systems. I'm a big fan of it.

dirtrat 05-15-2011 12:22 AM

I love my Nav, very glad I got it.

Lemers 05-15-2011 12:34 AM

Con the process to update it. Pro it's not just the nav but the music box too

BigCatZ 05-15-2011 10:18 AM

The stock Nav system is a very nice setup and the backup cam for 2011 is a bonus however for me, i chose not to get it because of the price. $2800 seems pretty steep considering some after market systems look just as good if not better for half the price. Also, i really like the cubby hole, fits my wallet, phone, and ipod nicely.

IMO save the money on the Nav, put it towards other mods:ugh2:

TheGreatOne 05-15-2011 12:01 PM

I love the Nav

Large hard drive (Music Box), great Menu for the car features and system monitoring, u can control and monitor just about everything, haven't really used the GPS much, but it works great, DVD's when parked. 2011 has the back up cam so thats sweet, thats the only thing I'm missing.

wilsonp 05-16-2011 01:06 AM

The Nav also adds some additional voice control, the Music Box, another trip computer, and control over some options you can't change otherwise except at the dealer. Plus a nice iPod/USB music interface.

The 2010 can add a backup cam pretty easily, the 2009 you can get a box to add a backup cam.

Upgrades run $150 to $200, so pretty expensive.

Overall integration is nice.

Iconic 05-16-2011 04:00 AM

Would most of you agree that one big plus for the OEM nav is that it's placed at eye level when you drive compared to aftermarket nav where it would have to be much lower? Of maybe the pictures just exaggerate how low it really is...

bigaudiofanat 05-17-2011 12:43 PM

Stock nav system comes with a bose system which most want to get rid of because of how bad it is "search the threads" I personally would take aftermarket over stock most of the time.

Reasons:

Better audio
More options
Better iPod control
Play movies more easily
More system options "audio"

wilsonp 05-17-2011 04:28 PM

I don't think the 2010 can be better at DVD or iPod, but I understand the others.

2011 Nismo#91 05-17-2011 05:41 PM

DVD Nav System with BT 1000
Backup cam 100
Control unit 70

Stock Nav 2000

bigaudiofanat 05-17-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 1117181)
DVD Nav System with BT 1000
Backup cam 100
Control unit 70

Stock Nav 2000

Ah but the stock unit has limits not to mention you have to use their bose system which if you ever wanted to upgrade any one thing you have to either by an adapter like the re-q of gut the entire system.

dP3NGU1N 05-17-2011 06:32 PM

Is an adapter expensive? From what I've read a lot of people hate the bose system. If I got the nav I would like to keep all interface aspects and the awesome OEM look but change out the speakers.

The position of aftermarket navs was also a concern to me. I don't find it safe having to look down to view the map.

Anything else that an after market DDin would do better than the stock OEM nav? can you BT music from an iphone or would you have to USB it?

Evil Sports 05-18-2011 06:39 AM

Great stuff here, please continue

bigaudiofanat 05-18-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 1117260)
Is an adapter expensive? From what I've read a lot of people hate the bose system. If I got the nav I would like to keep all interface aspects and the awesome OEM look but change out the speakers.

The position of aftermarket navs was also a concern to me. I don't find it safe having to look down to view the map.

Anything else that an after market DDin would do better than the stock OEM nav? can you BT music from an iphone or would you have to USB it?

Yes schoche makes an adapter if you want to add a aftermarket head unit to the bose system.

Yes re-q qould allow you to add new amps to power new sepakers if you wanted however you will not be able to use the bose system to power new speakers as bose has strange OHMS for their speakers.

Lots of people were concerned about looking down to see a map however with voice directions they really do not look down "this includes AK"

90 ST 05-18-2011 08:44 AM

once you have the stock NAV it's expensive if you decide to change it out, you can't just change the radio part.

I would NOT get, nor did i get factory NAV, for a few reasons, i don't need it, i knew i was changing out the HU, and i plan on keeping this car, if that system ever dies off warranty it's going to be a lot more then 2k to replace it...

If it's short term and you like the look of the factory NAV get it, you can add amps speaker and sub to it with a ReQ as mentioned, or a few different peices from Audio Control, they have a new peice coming out next month that is pretty slick, and not much money.

bigaudiofanat 05-18-2011 09:50 AM

Jbl also makes one but it is expensive.

wilsonp 05-18-2011 04:49 PM

The 2010 and newer stock Nav units include bluetooth streaming music.

And I have an extended warranty on my car to cover more than just Nav :)

Evil Sports 05-19-2011 01:01 PM

Is there a way to operate the nav while the car is moving

Blue370tt 05-19-2011 01:55 PM

I was in a 2006 Z51 vette with nav and got the 09 370 with nav next. The Z nav is 300% better than the vettes and also has XM traffic bundled in to it (subscription). I live and travel in the SE US quite a bit and have found the nav to be very accurate.

As far as some saying "dont get the nav get after market".....you can say that about any part on the car. Aftermarket WILL NEVER look as good as the OEM nav unit and doesnt really offer anything additional that I want or need. I find the Bose to be good enough as I am well beyond my loud stereo days.

No glaring issues on the nav unit. It really comes down to what you want in the car and how much you want to spend.

AlphaSnacks 05-19-2011 02:30 PM

OEM Nav is the way to go. It simply makes the interior of the car look beautiful and very classy.

AllForTheCash 05-19-2011 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1121275)
OEM Nav is the way to go. It simply makes the interior of the car look beautiful and very classy.

I agree, not only is the system great, but the interior is improved greatly with it in place.

007MI6 05-19-2011 04:16 PM

+1

I had an '07 350Z w/o nav, and just never found the storage box to be useful or aesthetically pleasing. My new 370Z has Nav. and I just LOVE the way it looks. The integration is excellent. Not just in looks, but in how it is integrated into the electronics of the car. You can control it with the buttons on the unit, touch screen, controls on the steering wheel or voice. Plus bluetooth, 9.3G music box, USB, RCA, DVD, B/U camera, etc....I just wasn't going to get a new Z without it. I used to be an aftermarket only kinda guy, but you can't beat this navigation system.

Evil Sports 05-19-2011 05:23 PM

Thanks for these greats responses, Im headed to the dealer to work the #s

bigaudiofanat 05-19-2011 08:46 PM

I just can not see how anyone can say the stock system is "great" some may find it fine but a LOT regret it after the sign the papers. Just an after thought perhaps.

Lemers 05-19-2011 08:55 PM

I'm not an audiophile so sound isn't as important, but I like the integration of the OEM nav system.

007MI6 05-19-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1122145)
I'm not an audiophile so sound isn't as important, but I like the integration of the OEM nav system.

Exactly, the sound is just fine, I don't need an over-the-top system. As far as I am concerned you can't beat the integration of the OEM over aftermarket.

90 ST 05-20-2011 01:10 AM

there are ppl with the stock HU doing VERY well at world finals sound events, it's all about what you do with the signal. I little EQ'ing can go a long way.

bigaudiofanat 05-20-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 1122695)
there are ppl with the stock HU doing VERY well at world finals sound events, it's all about what you do with the signal. I little EQ'ing can go a long way.

Not when the bose systems omit things before they reach the speakers to begin with.

90 ST 05-20-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1122884)
Not when the bose systems omit things before they reach the speakers to begin with.

Funny, but the car i'm thinking about HAS the Bose HU in it. and it's a G37. You can tap in ahead of the amp...

bigaudiofanat 05-21-2011 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 1123077)
Funny, but the car i'm thinking about HAS the Bose HU in it. and it's a G37. You can tap in ahead of the amp...

You can do that with most of them however it is a tad easier for some to do it right after the amp more wiring more room easier space to work with.

dP3NGU1N 05-21-2011 10:20 AM

Is it possible to remove all the Bose stuff but keep the oem nav or is the Bose amp some how integrated in to it?

bigaudiofanat 05-21-2011 07:35 PM

Yes an no, you can keep the bose head unit find the pre out wires run them to a re-q 5 for a total of like 12 wires unless you omit the rear speakers which I recommend doing than run a new amp to power your new speakers and sub. You can do this after the bose amp as well.Just make sure that the switch on the re-q is setup to the proper input.

krUnizZLE 05-22-2011 04:31 AM

So, i am kind of confused right now... if someone can help me here, I have a 2011 Manual 370z With Nav.... So That includes the Bose System....

1) Now, Is there any way to remove the Bose head Unit? If So, where can i find its Dash Kit to fit a Single Din/ Double Din ?


2) What Functions Do i lose If i remove the Bose Head Unit? (If Possible)


3) I was told to go with the JL Audio CleenSweep Method. Should I?


4) Basically, i want to remove Bose Head Unit, Bose Amp, Bose Speakers, And anything else bose... Just leave the OEM Nav, and bluetooth etc.... Is this possible?

bigaudiofanat 05-22-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krUnizZLE (Post 1126150)
So, i am kind of confused right now... if someone can help me here, I have a 2011 Manual 370z With Nav.... So That includes the Bose System....

1) Now, Is there any way to remove the Bose head Unit? If So, where can i find its Dash Kit to fit a Single Din/ Double Din ?


2) What Functions Do i lose If i remove the Bose Head Unit? (If Possible)


3) I was told to go with the JL Audio CleenSweep Method. Should I?


4) Basically, i want to remove Bose Head Unit, Bose Amp, Bose Speakers, And anything else bose... Just leave the OEM Nav, and bluetooth etc.... Is this possible?

1. Yes, buy the base model dash from your nissan dealer than buy a aftermarket dash kit to install the new head unit. UNLESS you buy a adapter you will have to install new speakers at least and a sub if you want that to work as well which will require an amp.

2. Bluetooth if you have it and stock gps antenna which you will not worry about if you are using a single din head unit.

3. No, simply because you have to use a small volume knob instead of the actually volume on your bose head unit. So you would have to make sure not to touch your head units volume and you would to install a cheesy little volume knob somewhere.

4. As I said before yes and no, you will need the bose head unit to integrate with the nav system so you can not have it both ways. You can use a re-q5 or something and go from the stock bose head unit and stock nav to all new stuff other than that you are looking at a entire aftermarket system including aftermarket nav. Reason being is the bose system is all wired in with the nav.

krUnizZLE 05-23-2011 07:30 AM

So re-q5 is better then jl cleansweep? It does not have that cheesy mini volume button ?? I was also looking at Rockford Fosgate® - 3SIXTY.2 and Rockford Fosgate® - 3SIXTY.3. What do you think about those?


bigaudiofanat, Thanks...

bigaudiofanat 05-23-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krUnizZLE (Post 1127264)
So re-q5 is better then jl cleansweep? It does not have that cheesy mini volume button ?? I was also looking at Rockford Fosgate® - 3SIXTY.2 and Rockford Fosgate® - 3SIXTY.3. What do you think about those?


bigaudiofanat, Thanks...

Not a problem, from what I have done the only one that has the cheesy knob is the JL all the rest should be ok including the 3SIXTY.

JBL makes one if you want to get really serious with audio.

90 ST 05-23-2011 06:12 PM

Audio control also has a bunch of them, as well a new peice that should be out in the next couple weeks, the LCQ-1.

It sounds like we may disco the ReQ's by the way.

Wicked CAS 06-03-2011 08:42 AM

If I was buying a brand new 2011 370Z I would choose one without the Nav package... As you know aftermarket offers much better solutions with much less limitations.

If i was buying a USED 370Z I would get the one with better price and mileage, and if it came with Nav great... You can still work with the stock system... There are adapters you can get for Back up cam etc... And if you want to build a system you can still use high-end processors and get great sound out of the stock radio.

At the end if you have to dish out the $2800 out of pocket... DO NOT DO IT...


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