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bigaudiofanat 12-03-2009 07:45 PM

I will say it has a great screen though.

However I am not going to judge people for what they choose to use. If it works for you it works for you.

ConchZ2 12-04-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 306574)
Crappy windows media player for trying to keep track of music. Illegal sharing music that expires on the other player in what 10 days or something? And who are you going to share with? What head unit actually supports control over the zune? Na Ill pass




It’s obvious you know absolutely nothing about Zune! Maybe you should Google it!!


Zune MP3 players, software, and music community | Zune.net

molamann 12-04-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 306574)
Crappy windows media player for trying to keep track of music. Illegal sharing music that expires on the other player in what 10 days or something? And who are you going to share with? What head unit actually supports control over the zune? Na Ill pass

Unfortunatley that's pretty much the ONLY reason why I own an iPod.

bigaudiofanat 12-04-2009 03:16 PM

Na I will pass I have had to setup a few for people.

True molaman a few people tell me that.

nismo09 12-04-2009 04:01 PM

After reading everyone's posts i just wanted to add that i purchased a new nismo a few months ago and of course you only get the very low end system installed and it is indeed crap. Granted when in a nismo music is not the first priority but you do expect more from the name Bose.

370Zsteve 12-04-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 306574)
Crappy windows media player for trying to keep track of music. Illegal sharing music that expires on the other player in what 10 days or something? And who are you going to share with? What head unit actually supports control over the zune? Na Ill pass

Latest version of Zune download service lets you keep up to 10 tracks a month, forever. Adapters for Zune/iPod interface integration have already been demonstrated and are being rolled out as we speak. Apple's marketing department is the best in the business. Manufacturers (Nissan for example) have erred in creating iPod-only interfaces. Manufacturers (Nissan's 2010 370Z has changed the interface to USB) have seen the light. The iPod is not the only game in town any more.

What is this?

http://www.autosoundcentral.com/GROM...er_p/gunis.htm

bigaudiofanat 12-04-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nismo09 (Post 307897)
After reading everyone's posts i just wanted to add that i purchased a new nismo a few months ago and of course you only get the very low end system installed and it is indeed crap. Granted when in a nismo music is not the first priority but you do expect more from the name Bose.

Congratulations on your new car, just be lucky that it did not come with the bose system so it is much easier to upgrade.



Steve I have seen them still even if zune came up in the ball park of a ipod I still would stick with apple.

Redline37 12-14-2009 07:12 PM

I like the bose in my G :(

bigaudiofanat 07-07-2010 11:18 PM

Bump for a good thread after reading some posts.

Daishi 07-08-2010 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 611544)
Bump for a good thread after reading some posts.

Did anyone figure out a way to install a new system on models touring models? I hve rainbow germaniums sitting around and was thinking about putting them to use. But wanted to keep the stock buttons so would probably use that jl audio piece for that.

bigaudiofanat 07-08-2010 09:37 AM

You can keep the bose head unit and the bose amps just have to use a mtx re-q 5 and new amps to run new speakers. You would burn out the bose amps if you ran the speakers off them and would not sound right either.

Daishi 07-10-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 611917)
You can keep the bose head unit and the bose amps just have to use a mtx re-q 5 and new amps to run new speakers. You would burn out the bose amps if you ran the speakers off them and would not sound right either.

Have you done that kind of install before? what would you charge if I wanted you to install it for me. If you do installs that is.

bigaudiofanat 07-10-2010 10:41 PM

PM sent

exmortiss 11-02-2010 12:33 AM

My Front left bose speaker has already blown in my anniversary 370

twotonezed 11-02-2010 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 42426)
I don't know too much about car stereo systems, but I do know people loves to bash the Bose systems. So I'm wondering what the reasons behind it is... because I'm guessing Bose is the apple of car stereos? I mean do they have decent products but you can get more bang for buck with other brands? I'm not an audiophile by any means but only problem I have with my Bose system on the 370z is that the volume cap limit seem extremely low.

What I have been told since the dawn of time is "Bose Blows". If you are putting together a sound system in your home that is where Bose shines. Because of the small space of a car the Bose speakers don't work to there full potential. Just pull it and put something good in. Not your general electronics shop though.

370Zsteve 11-02-2010 05:50 AM

Why anyone thinks they are going to have audiophile-spec sound in a quite noisy 370Z is beyond me :rolleyes:

optiontrader 11-03-2010 09:57 AM

I'm an avid audio hobbyist, and have been for too many years.

As said before, Bose is a marketing company first, and while I haven't heard their pro stuff, it's pure amazing how they're able to sell their consumer stuff.

For instance, the tweets in the Z? Paper cones, I believe - really? Put a paper cone on a "high-end" speaker at home and you'll get laughed at...

...wait - their Acoustimass series speakers are also paperconed - correct? Now, many other manufacturers use paper cones (mostly treated, doped, etc.); but there's a reason why Bose doesn't publish the frequency response specs of their cube speakers - you'll laugh.

Believe it or not, I think the Bose in the Z isn't all that bad (but it's gonna get replaced REAL soon). The high frequencies are a bit grainy, and will get strident/stressed when you turn it up. The bass, coming from the spare tire, is actually a bit decent sounding. But for $3000? U got marketed, baby...

John Bradley 11-03-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by optiontrader (Post 793966)
I'm an avid audio hobbyist, and have been for too many years.

As said before, Bose is a marketing company first, and while I haven't heard their pro stuff, it's pure amazing how they're able to sell their consumer stuff.

For instance, the tweets in the Z? Paper cones, I believe - really? Put a paper cone on a "high-end" speaker at home and you'll get laughed at...

...wait - their Acoustimass series speakers are also paperconed - correct? Now, many other manufacturers use paper cones (mostly treated, doped, etc.); but there's a reason why Bose doesn't publish the frequency response specs of their cube speakers - you'll laugh.

Believe it or not, I think the Bose in the Z isn't all that bad (but it's gonna get replaced REAL soon). The high frequencies are a bit grainy, and will get strident/stressed when you turn it up. The bass, coming from the spare tire, is actually a bit decent sounding. But for $3000? U got marketed, baby...

3,000 grand ??? Really

Baer383 11-03-2010 08:55 PM

No highs
No lows
It has to be a Bose:inoutroflpuke:

370Zsteve 11-04-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by John Bradley (Post 794364)
3,000 grand ??? Really

Hahaha $3000....I think maybe somebody missed a few options in the Touring package, John, eh?

bigaudiofanat 11-04-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 794822)
No highs
No lows
It has to be a Bose:inoutroflpuke:

X2 :icon18:

optiontrader 11-04-2010 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 795239)
Hahaha $3000....I think maybe somebody missed a few options in the Touring package, John, eh?

:icon23:

Okay, u got me. But it's still too expensive... :p

FERRARI 11-07-2010 05:02 PM

I am ordering a 2011 touring coupe.....and I have not been able to find one to look at in person........I know the package includea an 8 speaker Bose.....exactly were are all 8 speakers?

Baer383 11-07-2010 05:19 PM

2 tweeter in dash
2 6x9 in the doors
2 3.5in in the rear(behind your head)
2 4in subs in spare tire well.

FERRARI 11-07-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 800079)
2 tweeter in dash
2 6x9 in the doors
2 3.5in in the rear(behind your head)
2 4in subs in spare tire well.

Thanks....lol...I have been looking for over a week to find that out.....The speakers in the spare tire well are covered by the carpet then?

Baer383 11-07-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 800099)
Thanks....lol...I have been looking for over a week to find that out.....The speakers in the spare tire well are covered by the carpet then?

They are in a round plastic like container that's has Bose written on it in the spare tire well covered by carpet.

For what it is worth I took my entire Bose system out and replaced everything.

FERRARI 11-07-2010 06:03 PM

Thanks again.....+1 for you...

Where did you buy your car? I might be ordering my 2011 in Hotlanta

Baer383 11-07-2010 06:13 PM

I got mine from Stone Mountain Nissan but they didn't have any in stock so they traded a car for mine and went to N.C. to get it.

sonic370 11-07-2010 07:41 PM

i know you guys say bose blows and maybe so.....

but right now it would sound pretty good to me....

i've got the base system in my 09 and starting to upgrade.. starting with jbl's
then on to HU.....
the sound system in a rouge is better then the stock system in a 370....

bigaudiofanat 11-07-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 800066)
I am ordering a 2011 touring coupe.....and I have not been able to find one to look at in person........I know the package includea an 8 speaker Bose.....exactly were are all 8 speakers?

I would advise against the bose system you will save money in the long run if you ever want to upgrade its easier with stock. X2 with take everything out and putting new in.

FERRARI 11-08-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 800324)
I would advise against the bose system you will save money in the long run if you ever want to upgrade its easier with stock. X2 with take everything out and putting new in.

The Bose system comes with the package I am ordering...not available without it....

RiCharlie 11-19-2010 03:43 PM

i am not pleased listening to XM satellite radio because the treble is much to intense..

irondoc 12-25-2012 09:28 AM

I am an audiophile like many others here, but for me, a name should only lead you to listen to a specific brands products in audition - not to buy something without first listening. Once you listen, everything else comes down to what you are willing to pay for, personal taste and what kind of music you like to hear.
Most would agree that Martin-Logan is high end stuff, my brother loves it, I don't. (But we both love my Mirage OMD-28 speakers) So the fact that many of us here look down on Bose should not make any one who is satisfied with Bose decide to upgrade. If you like your Bose - God Bless - you will save the ridiculous sums of money some of us have paid to upgrade. So just listen and enjoy, and ignore the yapping of the audio nuts like me.
It is entirely possible to upgrade your speakers and amps but leave the head unit in place with everything working seamlessly together.
I have a 2013 Sport Touring with Nav. I upgraded with an Audio Control LC8i - this is the heart of the system and makes it possible to use the head unit with aftermarket amps and speakers.
Even with the Bose in place the best thing you can do to improve your listening experience is sound dampening. Anything and everything in the car will sound better with less noise in the car

axmea? 12-25-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by irondoc (Post 2076348)
I upgraded with an Audio Control LC8i - this is the heart of the system and makes it possible to use the head unit with aftermarket amps and speakers.
Even with the Bose in place the best thing you can do to improve your listening experience is sound dampening. Anything and everything in the car will sound better with less noise in the car

Not sure how much headroom the Bose H/U has with output voltage for signal and using an Audio Control can possibly add alternator whine and with amps along add ground loop, have you had any install issues and noise using the LC8?

irondoc 12-25-2012 07:29 PM

No I have not had any issues with whine or interference.I suspect the cabling plays a major role here though I can't give you specifics regarding my cabling off the top of my head as it was done by a professional shop.
I will say though that I am only leaving the Bose head unit in place temporarily to simplify the install and due to budget constraints.
I have no doubt that, despite the massive improvement in sound quality with what I have done, my quality is still significantly restrained by the head unit.
Garbage in, garbage out as they say, and as I have not been able to find info on the BOSE DAC, I can only assume it as as inferior as the rest of the system.

I am open to suggestions regarding a premium double DIN head unit. Not just regarding pure audiophile quality, but also the quality of the user interface, automated sorting of USB music files, and versatility in handling audiophile codecs such as FLAC, WMA lossless etc.

bigaudiofanat 12-25-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by irondoc (Post 2076348)
I am an audiophile like many others here, but for me, a name should only lead you to listen to a specific brands products in audition - not to buy something without first listening. Once you listen, everything else comes down to what you are willing to pay for, personal taste and what kind of music you like to hear.
Most would agree that Martin-Logan is high end stuff, my brother loves it, I don't. (But we both love my Mirage OMD-28 speakers) So the fact that many of us here look down on Bose should not make any one who is satisfied with Bose decide to upgrade. If you like your Bose - God Bless - you will save the ridiculous sums of money some of us have paid to upgrade. So just listen and enjoy, and ignore the yapping of the audio nuts like me.
It is entirely possible to upgrade your speakers and amps but leave the head unit in place with everything working seamlessly together.
I have a 2013 Sport Touring with Nav. I upgraded with an Audio Control LC8i - this is the heart of the system and makes it possible to use the head unit with aftermarket amps and speakers.
Even with the Bose in place the best thing you can do to improve your listening experience is sound dampening. Anything and everything in the car will sound better with less noise in the car

Even if someone is satisfied with the bose system once they hear a better system they could than be even more happy with that system. Most bose owners do not know what they are missing until someone shows them. Unless they just do not care.

djrelic 12-26-2012 05:02 PM

missing the reproduction of beautiful Utopia Be Focal speakers.

I remember when the Boston Acoustic Z's speakers came out, so long ago. They were the best on the market for car audio, sounded so good.


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