Not true, 20 years ago they were a very competitive brand, since 2000 they changed their focus of their target audience from enthusiasts to people with deep pockets and no ear. In the end they are making more money, but have lost respect of the audio community. I have a system from 95 or so and it does not beat audio equipment I would buy today, but from the time period it was very competitive for its price.

I enjoy itunes and I use a windows computer and a mac love the mac more even though it is 3 years old. But still itunes is the best program and the ipod knows the program so that is what I am using. Not to mention that I started using the program even before I had an ipod.


Anyway back to bose and how much it s***'s

I rely hate to bring up this sore subject, but I though some people might want to see what there bose amp look like compared to a normal amp. Bose knows that there amps can not push a lot and that is also why so much fades out at higher volumes.
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Well I can assure you all they make the BEST aviation headsets you can buy :)

I have the Nav/Bose setup in my 370 and it's decent sounding. It's not like an aftermarket system, but rarely can a stock car radio compete with that. The 370z's Nav/Bose setup is still better than most stock setups IMO. I bought it mostly for the Ipod interface and the harddrive and CF reader. Perhaps you could put in a different amp and swap out the speakers and that would have a big impact. FWIW I don't regret getting the system, it's good enough for my purposes and it's a very clean interface. If you are into high end audio then absolutely get the cheapest stock radio and rip it out of there, you won't be happy otherwise.

By the way this is my first post to the forum, I just got my Z yesterday (upgraded from my 05 350z) and I freaking love this car.

ps The Ipod interface will only recharge the older 12v Ipods. If you have one of the newer 5v types you'll need a converter. I found that out on this forum, and that's how I found the forum, when I was googling about my Ipod not charging!! great place we've got here! :tup:

Welcome aboard! :ughdance:

I have the touring model with the Bose system but dont have the nav. Does the CF slot only come with the nav?

the BOSE is my opinon is pretty good for stock. to get the best soudn you have to play thru the AUX or cd cuz radio doesnt process as well. it comes in at a lower volume. also push the bose system up. i play it at max alot with my bass at +2 and treble at +2. it seems to handle it well and if not thats what a warranty is for.

my 2000 accord with alpine headunit, mtx sub and amp and infinti spealers is still louder lol

I haven't read every post so sorry if someone has stated this. Also, I haven't done any real research in the the Bose stereo that comes in the 370Z (mine doesn't have one.)

Typically Bose systems use local amplifiers for each driver (or component set) and a ported speaker enclosure incorporating a 3-1/2" woofer. The ports are tuned to a specific frequency range that will operate fairly well for general listening. The issues you have come from the fact that the ports are tuned, thereby limiting some of the overall frequency range. A 3-1/2" paper cone woofer was never designed to reproduce sound anywhere near the 250Hz range. The phrase "no highs, no lows, gotta be Bose" doesn't exist for no reason. Most avid Bose users are older, and that's due to the fact that your hearing loses range once you get older and damage it from the loud world we live in. They don't notice the lack of range because of it. Even the subwoofers in most Bose systems have almost a mid-base feel to them, and struggle to hit even 80Hz.

From an installers view, Bose is a pain in the ***. When upgrading you are limited to 2-ohm, 3-1/2" speakers that use a 3-point mounting chassis, and doing anything beyond band-aid repairs requires running new wires straight to the speaker. Couple this with the necessity to build mounting brackets for the new speakers using ABS or MDF and you've got a long day ahead of you. Unlike most cars, a visit from a car owner with a failing Bose system will usually result in a new Stereo, 2 pairs of Speakers, and a lot of labor.

I'm personally thrilled about my car not including Bose, it'll make installing a Pioneer AVIC that much easier.

YOUR ARE HALF RIGHT. There is no tuning done when they install they system in a car maybe for the house. What is true and I can not keep saying it. Is that the processor mutes or fades out what freq it can not reproduce as you turn the volume up. They do this because they know there speakers and amps can not take a lot of power or else they will distort. A real system will NOT do this. I am sorry but installers just do not see them as a pain but being pointless and very stupid to even buy. They are no were near worth the money.

A guy from another site posted this.

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+1 :iagree:

The Bose system works for me. I have Harmon-Kardon and Klipsch at home when I feel the need to crank it.

The beauty of the Bose 'Wavelength' design is in it's sound at lower volumes, and the amount of sound it can produce from very small speakers. I'm an old rocker, my hearing is fukd from many years of lead guitar, headphones, etc. I don't need to be riding around inside a speaker cabinet which is basically what you are doing when you drop in a powerful system into a car.

And all you iPod-wearing freaks out there, your hearing will be shot by the time you are 30. :tup:

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I for one am totally against bose...

I really hope the 2011 370z comes with something else... every vehicle I have owned besides my current jeep I completly redid the sound in the car usually boston accustics or JL

but I also have brand loyalty from JL AND BOSTON and KENWOOD AND ALPINE so that could just be me being biased

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i have spent allot less than that with KLIPSH and my home audio sound is killer... I would never give up on my 7.1 klipsh setup w/ harmon kardon reciever

They are hated do to the price to performance ratio!!!

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I agree!

I would rather spend more on my home audio system than the on the Z.
Boston Acoustics (VS) with dual SVS Subs (PC13-Ultra) and Denon 7.1 AV

:iagree: Harmon-Kardon 7.1 A/V + Klipsch FTW! :iagree:

Just for :stirthepot:, my home theater rear and side speakers are Bose. Front, Center and Sub are Klipsch. The Direct-Reflecting Bose on the secondary channels bring the whole room together.

Pioneer elite for got what model and KEF 5.1 speakers and sub forgot what model and 58" samsung plasma forgot what model and it f-ing rocks. I love home audio and video too!

I had a pair of the 901’s many years ago and I loved them………….really kicked *ss, especially in my small dorm room. I think I suffered a little ear damage from those bad boys!

Lossless as far as I have read and seen and heard is the best format and an exactly replica of the original cd. The same goes for FLAC. When you copy a cd in lossless than look at the memory used compared to the cd it is exactly the same.

It might take up the same amount of space, but so does when I convert an 128 file to loseless. It does not mean it is the same quality, now for the average person FLAC v. Apple loseless will be the same. Differences will be noticed at the highs & lows when you enter into high end equipment. I am not just referring to speakers but amps, receivers, DAC, even headphones if you are me.

Media monkey wtfpwns itunes as far as managing and organizing large library's of music. Anyone who says different obviously doesn't know what media monkey is or doesn't have a large library of music.

Converting something that is already compressed back to lossless is pointless. It tries to fill in info that was lost. When you rip a cd directly to the best format that will make sure your getting the best. But this is one of those subjects that can be argued until the cows come home. I say one thing you say another. Either way I still say the best format is either cd or loss less.

Yes, but the point I was trying to show with my example was that just because something equals X file size off the CD does not mean it is the same quality. Example, an Apple loseless file is 2.5MB and the file on the CD is 2.5MB, that does not mean it produced the same quality.

I have over 8,000 songs all from original cd's and over 770 cd's ripped. itunes is all I use.

Hmm... I have about 4x that and itunes completely chokes. I was forced to use it temporarily until people figured out the new hashing for iphone, and had to load a small subset of my library. Maybe it works better when you aren't running it on a PC or something. I also found a lot of the organizational features I was used to in media monkey lacking in itunes.

Well I have had no problems I have ran it on my 5 year old mac and a newer computer. Not a hitch. I am a itunes user for life. Just very easy to find anything you are looking for as well as make and burn playlists.

You say you are iTunes for life, but have you ever used any other software to know if something is better?

Yes I have used others. Poor file organizing and a lot of them duplicate your music and not use the originals. Plus I would rather use something that was designed to use with my computer both mac and pc plus the ipods. I know other software can do it but still itunes from what I have seen is the best. That is MY opinion and MY choice. If you want to sue something else go right ahead. My friend use to use other programs and after annoying him for 2 years to try itunes he did. 5 months later he is still using it.

I have Zune……..and recommend them…………this is not a self serving!!

:rofl2::icon18: OMG NEVER

Agree. Zune ftw

Yup. 901's. Still have 'em.

My neighbor has a set of klipsch belle's OMG they are so efficient and amazing. He said he has had them for over 10 years now and use to power them with an alarm clock. I just wish he would sell them to me.

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Half the weight, more formats, file sharing ftw

just doesn't work on the Mac, which makes no difference to me, Media Center on the A/V

Crappy windows media player for trying to keep track of music. Illegal sharing music that expires on the other player in what 10 days or something? And who are you going to share with? What head unit actually supports control over the zune? Na Ill pass