NAV System Successfully Removed
 

I own a 2010 with the NAV system so I am posting this from experience (Read Below):


>>>>>Should I get the OEM Nav system?
Simply put once bought you are stuck with this head unit, there is no changing it out no adding on a head unit nothing. Everything is integrated into the factory nav from your climate control system to your headlights. You may be able to bypass the parking brake safety system or add a rear camera but that is about it. If you think you are going to want more options or a new head unit stay clear from this.

ABOVE POST FROM BIGAUDIOFANAT (NOT HATING ON YOU HOWEVER THIS INFORMATION IS FALSE)-For all of you whom have read the countless posts about the NAV system being non replaceable and that everything is integrated so its non removable, that your stuck with the system.......this is FALSE.

I have successfully removed my 2010 NAV system and replaced it with a Pioneer Double DIN (See Below), I am also using the factory Bose system with my Amp. I am also not using any form of LOC, I eliminated this with the new head unit........There is nothing distored or wrong with the sound, it sounds amazing and yes Audio Companies will tell you that you need to buy new speakers however this is an upsale game to make you buy a new set of speakers. I do agree while yes there are tons of aftermarket speakers that sound much better, Pioneer, Focal etc... I am currently pushing them though an amp as I am not ready to make the next upgrade to my system however the system straight out rocks, is crystal clear and sounds overall ******* amaizing, why upgrade the speakers I don't see a need to at the moment!!!

All my steering wheel controls work. The Pac Steering wheel controller did the job. 0 % Loss:happydance:

Yes I do agree that I have a few features not available such as adjusting the temp via a touch screen, or seeing what street i am on, but no loss of my headlights etc... So that is really irrelevant.

Another Post about the Nav System Replacing..... Again FALSE
No the nav wiring has been put in the car with the nav and they will not include that stuff for a future install. Nor would it be worth it to install it now. If you even did have enough money to do such an upgrade it would not be worth it as you would also have to install the crappy bose system for the nav to work as well as find somehow to have a antenna for the nav. It would be 100 times batter and more worth it to just get an aftermarket one. The aftermarket head units can be controlled threw the steering wheel controls.

Not Correct
Their are to many things that you would have to do to even think of upgrading to the stock nav system.

>>> Added Pigtail and New non Nav AC Amplifier..... Thats all:):owned:


I have full major functionality of the Z with NO NAV SYSTEM installed, end of debate.

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Nav system replaced with a pioneer Double Din, The standard non Nav AC controls installed and no issues.

Break free from the factory NAV!!!!! Yes it does work....:owned:

THE PROOF IS IN THE PHOTOS BELOW. THIS DID NOT COST ME MY House or any MAJOR $$$$$$$$$$.

Cost Break Down to Be Able to Switch (NO ELECTRONICS what you invest in your sound system after this is on you):

New Pigtail: $40 +/-
New AC Amplifier: $75 +/-
Double Din Conversion Kit: $50 +/-
PAC Steering Wheel Connector : $50 +/-
Cost to make a Double Din Work : $210.00 +/- + add tax
Look on BIGAUDIOFANAT face that you can switch and all his postings are incorrect: PRICELESS......(Joking Brother):owned:

Email me for any questions: Forensicsgrad13@gmail.com

My final sound system build (Updated): http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/1...completed.html

Removal Pics Below

BTW... I do consultation work:)

Pics please

See above

can you add links to all the stuff needed to make this work? Maybe do a diy?

Awesome work.

Lol great work man. Glad you could prove me wrong. Looks like it does take some work. Still paying that premium for that blows system though lol.

Great news to hear for me and my customers. Thanks for sharing. I'll update my thread now.

Absolutely will take me some time though I've got some things on back log but will do

Lol I thought I could get a chuckle from you... No worries man. Yea the app radio is cool sadly though they are costly. No worries brother.;)

Thank you:)

Omg you're my hero. I can add that to my things to do list.


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Looks like you spliced the pig tail to existing harness, can you show a better pic of that and how AC amplifier is connected?

I will follow up with a complete DYI when I have time but in short yes you need to add a Non Navigational pigtail into your Z the plugs are different between the two units.

Contact me guys if you need your install done. I now know what you need thanks to tokugawa.

Glad to Assist:) Does this mean I now get a lifetime discount at your shop:)

LOL I can always hook you up.

Lol no worries:) I will hold you to that:)

Any quick help to which wires i need splice the base pig tail?

Awesome work Tokugama!

You beat me to it! :rofl2:

I've wanted to delete the factory nav in my 09 for awhile. Recently I went through the service manual and figured out how but it was all theory until I saw this post. :tup:

As soon as you get a chance please post where you spliced in/connected to so I can verify what I found. Also please post where you got the pigtail from. I've been looking everywhere for one.

Thanks! :tiphat:

>>> Thank you Sir.... Yes Unfortunitly its going to be a while for the DIY (Sorry Guys) as I have a ton of stuff going on at the moment, I got the pigtail from a wrecked Z. (RIP)

That sucks. I was hoping you found some one that sold them.

Researching it, I may start selling them still looking into it:)

I would buy that part off u. Lol.


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Lol thanks

I second that! :icon17:
Tokugawa if you are able to source them I would definitely buy one off of you. :tup:

I think sense they are part of a MAIN harness it's not going to be something you can just buy. Maybe find at a salvage yard but otherwise that's like buying the entire main harness for one little piece. If we can find out what harness end that is maybe I can order them and add the pins/wires. Someone want to find that for me?

MORE UPDATED INFO!!!!! 4 JAN 2016
Until Tokugawa posts his DIY (edit: Tokugawa's DIY:http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...onversion.html), here is some info to help satisfy people’s curiosity on how the Nav system A/C controls are switched over to Non-Nav.
Tokugawa please let me know if this right; got a feeling I’m missing something.
Bigaudiofanat the below does include info that might be find helpful finding that connector.

I will be having some downtime soon so I will be working on the DIY for you guys.. So with that said has there been an issue in doing this....I'm new to the forum so not sure....please provide some feedback

Doing good so far! Keep it up!:tup:

DIY Online
 

Look at the DIY, its posted:)

Im still confused on which ac wires need to plug where?

What exactlly are you looking for?

BTW here is a link to Tokugawa's DIY: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...onversion.html

Between what Tokugawa and I have posted in this thread and Tokugawa's DIY thread, you should have enough information to do this. This DIY is not for beginners. If you do not understand pin outs and wiring diagrams then this might not be the DIY for you. Not trying to be mean it's just this is not a plug and play DIY. If wired wrong this DIY has the potential to cause damage to the HVAC system in your 370Z.

NH-025- pigtail connector
10P025 NH is the one you need to be over minimum order or you will pay a lot for delivery. NH-025

Translation to this write up, you have to cut or splice into the harnesses a new harness that will plug in. It's not simply plug and play

I can get my ac controls to work! They don't do any thing. I brought controller and ac amp from eBay. Had to pin and wire my Own connector. I did continuity checks on the connector everything is right. Pls help😔

With out seeing your work it is hard to diagnose the issue. When scope22 was having issues he posted pics of his wiring job (in the DIY thread) and I was able to see that he had wired it incorrectly. Post some pictures of your wiring job. We might notice something that you missed. Also post a pic of the AC auto amp part number label. Same thing for the controls.

My best guess with the info you have provided is you might have a bad part. Most of the parts on eBay are salvaged from wreaked cars so buyer beware even if they claim the part to be functional. Testing the controls and AC Auto amp takes a higher level of knowledge and test equipment that most people don't have. If your wiring job is good, the only route would be to swap out the AC Auto Amp and controls with known good ones or test your parts in Non-Nav Z.

Thanks I will post pics. You can hear the ac heater go on at a slow speed with automatic climate control changes. Just can't adjust anything when you turn the knobs nothing happens. They do light up when lights go on. I had to rewire plug from scratch wondering if the resistance in the wires makes a big difference? Thanks in advance

Easy fix, the pics were very helpful.
You have the pins backwards for the control wires.

You have:
Pin 4 of M67 going to pin 6 of M66 (green)
Pin 5 of M67 going to pin 7 of M66 (white)

It should be:
Pin 5 of M67 going to pin 6 of M66
Pin 4 of M67 going to pin 7 of M66

I think you miss read the pin-outs. You wired the control TX (transmit) signal pin on one plug to the TX pin on the other. It should be TX to RX (receive) like plugging in an AV source to a head unit; the output of the source (TX) to the input of the head unit (RX).

Swap the green and white wires on one of the plugs and you should be go to go. :tup:

You the man! Can't believe I didn't think of that works great except for the defroster:driving::driving:

Which defroster and how is it not working great?

3rd knob on the right when i push defroster light does not come on.