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370Zsteve 10-20-2009 09:13 PM

Ruh-Roh!
 
Florida May Put Loud Stereo Tickets on Driving Record
Legislation proposed for the 2010 session in Florida would make turning up the stereo a moving violation.

A member of the Florida House of Representatives wants to make driving with a loud stereo a crime on the same level as driving with an open container of alcohol. State Representative D. Alan Hays (R-Umatilla) last month introduced House Bill 137 which modifies an existing loud stereo statute to double the cost of fines and make the offense a moving violation.

Current Florida law makes it unlawful to drive with a stereo "plainly audible" from twenty-five feet away or that is "louder than necessary for the convenient hearing by persons inside the vehicle" when driving past a church, school or hospital. Law enforcement officers are exempt as are politicians who use loud soundmaking devices for "political purposes." The typical fine is $78 with no points.

HB 137 would impose three license points and boost the fine to $180 for a third offense. The addition of points will serve as a boon to insurance companies which will collect significantly higher premiums from ticket recipients. The industry has already rewarded Hays $16,650 in political contributions since his election in 2004, including support for his run for the state Senate in 2010.

Although state law already imposes a specific fine for loud stereos, several municipalities have written their own civil ordinances in order to impose harsher punishments including sixty days in jail, a $500 fine and the potential for thousands in impound fees. Passage of the Hays bill would allow these cities to add license points to the list.

JoeD 10-20-2009 10:41 PM

Good!

blue660r01 10-20-2009 10:42 PM

JoeD=?

spearfish25 10-21-2009 07:26 AM

Seriously though. If your stereo is loud enough to garner a ticket, you're risking hearing damage inside the car. Hell, there are times I think my stereo is loud, but when I get out of the car I can barely hear it.

I'm not sure how a radio noise violation or 'disturbing the peace' has anything to do with your driving record though. They could just increase the fines and that would be enough deterrent.

370Zsteve 10-21-2009 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 246248)
Good!

I love loud music but when somebody drives by with a goddamn thumper it annoys the sh!t out of me. About as bad as a Harley with straight pipes.

370Zsteve 10-21-2009 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 246414)
I'm not sure how a radio noise violation or 'disturbing the peace' has anything to do with your driving record though. They could just increase the fines and that would be enough deterrent.

It's just another excuse for The Man to get inside your vehicle. Like seat belt laws. Land of the free my azz.

TX_370 10-21-2009 07:44 AM

That's lame... I hate people who complain about loud music and yes I have gotten a ticket for "distrubing the peace" via my car stereo.

bigaudiofanat 10-21-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 246414)
Seriously though. If your stereo is loud enough to garner a ticket, you're risking hearing damage inside the car. Hell, there are times I think my stereo is loud, but when I get out of the car I can barely hear it.

I'm not sure how a radio noise violation or 'disturbing the peace' has anything to do with your driving record though. They could just increase the fines and that would be enough deterrent.

LOL ya if you visit caraudio.com that is all they car about is how loud they can get there stupid system. Makes me sort of mad and it's funny at the same time. That is one reason I do not go there anymore. All the are worried about is "hey I got metered and hit 89db's" big fin deal. :shakes head: Anything like that does not even sound good.

370Zsteve 10-21-2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 246439)
LOL ya if you visit caraudio.com that is all they car about is how loud they can get there stupid system. Makes me sort of mad and it's funny at the same time. That is one reason I do not go there anymore. All the are worried about is "hey I got metered and hit 89db's" big fin deal. :shakes head: Anything like that does not even sound good.

Right on, Matt. Between the iPods in the ears and the thumpers, I predict a generation of deaf-a$$ people by 2015.

And who am I to say it..just an old rocker with upper-register hearing loss due to too much time in front of a Marshall stack cranked to 10.........:rolleyes:

bigaudiofanat 10-21-2009 08:40 AM

Indeed, stupid people that were ignored when they were a child, just are trying to get attention. I do not believe for one sec that they do it just for the thrill of the bass.

fuct 10-21-2009 11:00 AM

im knockin pictures off your wall fool!!!

kenchan 10-21-2009 12:09 PM

thumping is bad but im also tired of hearing trumpets playing 5ths... :D

370Zsteve 10-21-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 246655)
im knockin pictures off your wall fool!!!

LOL, I think you should reread this. :hello:

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 246468)
Indeed, stupid people that were ignored when they were a child, just are trying to get attention. I do not believe for one sec that they do it just for the thrill of the bass.


370Zsteve 10-21-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 246728)
thumping is bad but im also tired of hearing trumpets playing 5ths... :D

LMAO +1! :tup:

Moonlitebiker 10-21-2009 12:17 PM

I hate laws that invade ones privacy, but I'd support the hell out of this one.

speedoflife 10-21-2009 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 246439)
LOL ya if you visit caraudio.com that is all they car about is how loud they can get there stupid system. Makes me sort of mad and it's funny at the same time. That is one reason I do not go there anymore. All the are worried about is "hey I got metered and hit 89db's" big fin deal. :shakes head: Anything like that does not even sound good.

Ouch. Not true.
The true fanatics of car stereo hate "thumpers" as much as anyone else, because it ruins their image. Same thing as some teenager street racing and wrecking a Z, it ruins the image.
My stereo sounds plenty good and it's more than loud enough to earn me that $242 ticket I earned once. I got the ticket on a highway near the city limit. I was nowhere near a residential area.
I think these tickets should just have the price raised, not go on records...
Not all of us with loud stereos are immature kids trying to show off to everyone else. It is for the thrill for many of us. Why else would we enjoy going out in the middle of the country to meet up and play our stereos?

PS - Don't call us stupid for hitting a certain dB level. It's the same as cars and hp/tq. A quantitative measure of success or improvement. (Although I do agree that caraudio.com is a joke. Bunch of immature people on that forum)

kannibul 10-21-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 246105)
Florida May Put Loud Stereo Tickets on Driving Record
Legislation proposed for the 2010 session in Florida would make turning up the stereo a moving violation.

A member of the Florida House of Representatives wants to make driving with a loud stereo a crime on the same level as driving with an open container of alcohol. State Representative D. Alan Hays (R-Umatilla) last month introduced House Bill 137 which modifies an existing loud stereo statute to double the cost of fines and make the offense a moving violation.

Current Florida law makes it unlawful to drive with a stereo "plainly audible" from twenty-five feet away or that is "louder than necessary for the convenient hearing by persons inside the vehicle" when driving past a church, school or hospital. Law enforcement officers are exempt as are politicians who use loud soundmaking devices for "political purposes." The typical fine is $78 with no points.

HB 137 would impose three license points and boost the fine to $180 for a third offense. The addition of points will serve as a boon to insurance companies which will collect significantly higher premiums from ticket recipients. The industry has already rewarded Hays $16,650 in political contributions since his election in 2004, including support for his run for the state Senate in 2010.

Although state law already imposes a specific fine for loud stereos, several municipalities have written their own civil ordinances in order to impose harsher punishments including sixty days in jail, a $500 fine and the potential for thousands in impound fees. Passage of the Hays bill would allow these cities to add license points to the list.

Wow, a law that burns tax payer dollars for no reason and won't be enforced.

How quaint!

It's pretty simple, make a law that requires people to remove their hearing aids when not in use = problem solved.

Too much pandering goes on in this country.

shabarivas 10-21-2009 07:16 PM

I would have a nice stereo in my car for ME not for ppl fuckin 25' away... I mean... I kinda agree that the law is lame - but I honestly wouldnt want ppl hearing my music outside the car... There is a difference between clean bass and annoyingly loud bass

zfokaiz 10-21-2009 07:55 PM

Thats right, i can appreciate a good stereo, but having to hear the "wing" on the back of the civic next me shake and vibrate is annoying. really annoying.

bigaudiofanat 10-21-2009 08:35 PM

Believe me I knwo what goes on, on that site. I have been on there for over 3 years. Over 80% of them all want bass that is it.

JoeD 10-21-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 247315)
Believe me I knwo what goes on, on that site. I have been on there for over 3 years. Over 80% of them all want bass that is it.

The same applies to nearly all audio-upgrades to non-audiophiles. This demographic is more, shall we say...urban. Everyone in the hood wants "fat beat that knocks."

bigaudiofanat 10-22-2009 06:00 AM

LOl ya it is the truth even my WHITE friend "not racist in any way" wanted to be heard form 2 blocks away after smacking him upside the head a few times and giving him a taste of what that really was he changed his mind.

370Zsteve 10-22-2009 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 247258)
I would have a nice stereo in my car for ME not for ppl fuckin 25' away... I mean... I kinda agree that the law is lame - but I honestly wouldnt want ppl hearing my music outside the car... There is a difference between clean bass and annoyingly loud bass

+1:tiphat:

earwicker7 10-22-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 246442)
And who am I to say it..just an old rocker with upper-register hearing loss due to too much time in front of a Marshall stack cranked to 10.........:rolleyes:

It wasn't cranked up to 11? Wimp;)

370Zsteve 10-22-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by earwicker7 (Post 248350)
it wasn't cranked up to 11? Wimp;)

come again? What? I can't hear you

earwicker7 10-22-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 247439)
The same applies to nearly all audio-upgrades to non-audiophiles. This demographic is more, shall we say...urban. Everyone in the hood wants "fat beat that knocks."

It applies to audiophiles as well (I'm a hardcore audiophile... my stereo cost me more than my car). Every speaker review in Stereophile/Absolute Sound/Etc will mention both bass extension (some people are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars just to get those last few Hz) and spl (sound pressure level). So we want bass... the main difference is that we're not willing to sacrifice sound quality for that bass; a bass-shy system with accurate sound is considered to be much higher quality than a "thumper," which might deafen you but sounds like a**.

370Zsteve 10-22-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by earwicker7 (Post 248360)
It applies to audiophiles as well (I'm a hardcore audiophile... my stereo cost me more than my car). Every speaker review in Stereophile/Absolute Sound/Etc will mention both bass extension (some people are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars just to get those last few Hz) and spl (sound pressure level). So we want bass... the main difference is that we're not willing to sacrifice sound quality for that bass; a bass-shy system with accurate sound is considered to be much higher quality than a "thumper," which might deafen you but sounds like ***.

In other words, clean bass vs decibel level as the primary criteria. Not that loud is bad :O

earwicker7 10-22-2009 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 248364)
In other words, clean bass vs decibel level as the primary criteria. Not that loud is bad :O

That about sums it up.

speedoflife 10-22-2009 08:25 PM

There can be a point met between the two areas.... dare I use the term.... SQL (LSQ).
I just feel like there is a huge stereotype that places things on two completely separate fields: either "boomer" or SQ system. There is a sort of middle range of responsible people who like loud, clear sound, and are responsible with it.

370Zsteve 10-22-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by speedoflife (Post 248510)
There can be a point met between the two areas.... dare I use the term.... SQL (LSQ).
I just feel like there is a huge stereotype that places things on two completely separate fields: either "boomer" or SQ system. There is a sort of middle range of responsible people who like loud, clear sound, and are responsible with it.

Completely agree. I still want to crush the wank who drives by my house every fkin morning at 6am you can hear his a$$ from half a mile away :shakes head:

bigaudiofanat 10-22-2009 08:36 PM

SQL is those loud a$$ systems that is what is annoying about it. In audio you are either SQL or SQ

speedoflife 10-23-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 248520)
SQL is those loud a$$ systems that is what is annoying about it. In audio you are either SQL or SQ

SPL or SQ. But I get your point.
That's why I said "dare to say." When I think of the boomers riding around waking people up at morning or night or whatever hours, I think of the guy with some Alpine, Kicker, RF, or whatever in a ProBox that does not actually know a thing about car audio. I'm saying that you can make it loud while still sounding good. Just because you can hit 140+ dB doesn't automatically mean you can't have a flat freq response graph.

bigaudiofanat 10-23-2009 02:46 PM

I agree man

dwhitley0381 10-29-2009 02:45 PM

I agree if I can hear your music in my car while driving or parked its just not right. And let me say I have heard some nice systems that sould clear all loud, but who are you to impose your music on me? I would not do that to you why should you do it to me. Its called respect and that is what I see missing from a lot of people these days. You can hate what I am saying but really what if I pulled up side you and pushed my lound music that you did not like to you? I am thinking you would not like it. Just my 2 cents.

370Zsteve 10-29-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dwhitley0381 (Post 257877)
I agree if I can hear your music in my car while driving or parked its just not right. And let me say I have heard some nice systems that sould clear all loud, but who are you to impose your music on me? I would not do that to you why should you do it to me. Its called respect and that is what I see missing from a lot of people these days. You can hate what I am saying but really what if I pulled up side you and pushed my lound music that you did not like to you? I am thinking you would not like it. Just my 2 cents.

R-E-S-P-E-C-T +1 rep :tiphat:

speedoflife 10-29-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwhitley0381 (Post 257877)
I agree if I can hear your music in my car while driving or parked its just not right. And let me say I have heard some nice systems that sould clear all loud, but who are you to impose your music on me? I would not do that to you why should you do it to me. Its called respect and that is what I see missing from a lot of people these days. You can hate what I am saying but really what if I pulled up side you and pushed my lound music that you did not like to you? I am thinking you would not like it. Just my 2 cents.

Who is this comment aimed at? Or just "thumpers" in general?
Needless to say... I agree with you. Amen.

lovethe370z 10-29-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dwhitley0381 (Post 257877)
I agree if I can hear your music in my car while driving or parked its just not right. And let me say I have heard some nice systems that sould clear all loud, but who are you to impose your music on me? I would not do that to you why should you do it to me. Its called respect and that is what I see missing from a lot of people these days. You can hate what I am saying but really what if I pulled up side you and pushed my lound music that you did not like to you? I am thinking you would not like it. Just my 2 cents.

a.g.r.e.e.d.

cab83_750 10-30-2009 09:46 PM

Agree. I vote for this fine!

Btw, most deaf or hearing impaired motorcyclist are not the casualty of loud pipes.....rather the "wind noise" from no helmet or or very loose helmet!

ZKindaGuy 10-31-2009 11:15 AM

Good...I hope the legistation passes and then catches on everywhere. I for the life of me can't understand why someone blasting the crap out of their car stereo thinks everyone else must be thinking they are cool. THEY AREN'T. THEY ARE THINKING YOU ARE A TOTAL INFANTILE AZZHOLE....PERIOD!!!!

Moonlitebiker 11-01-2009 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cab83_750 (Post 259972)
Agree. I vote for this fine!

Btw, most deaf or hearing impaired motorcyclist are not the casualty of loud pipes.....rather the "wind noise" from no helmet or or very loose helmet!

That is so true. Riding my bike I can't even hear the pipes, but that wind is vicious.


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