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Old 05-19-2010, 11:55 AM   #573 (permalink)
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SAM@GTM posted the following on MY G37.com:

"We are doing the Carb certification process a little different, We have hired a company that is certified and approved testings facility by CARB to handle the whole process for us, this agency do the same thing for the car manufactures and makes the process quicker and easier on us but of course it costs a lot more.

FYI the application for carb is free and there are no CARB fees to be paid, meaning you can make your own intake tomorrow and file an application with carb to get the carb certification and they will accept your application and you will spend the next year going back and forth with carb to get the EO (executive order) Number .

The Company We hired is a company that is mandated,approved and have the authority to approve our system for carb certification. And they are working for us so the process will be a lot smoother.

Don't be surprise if we beat stillen to the carb approvals process .

Sam"


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There are definitely companies who offer services like Sam describes. Although, I'm not sure if they have the ability to approve the results for CARB though. We've never had to look into this as we've always done our own testing. I'm sure there are advantages to doing it this way when you've never dealt with CARB directly before or if you have limited man power /time to handle the testing yourself. Fortunately we have been working with CARB for many, many years on various parts like intakes, superchargers, headers... We have a lot of experience with CARB and know what it takes to get the job done. Also, the Manager of our service department is an ASE certified/licensed smog technician who is constantly kept up to date with new laws and regulations affecting smog related parts.

We are also very fortunate to have such a close relationship with NISSAN and directly with the OBD II systems manager for Nissan North America. This is the guy that handles all of the emissions testing for NISSAN North America. We are able to pick their brains and ask them a lot of questions while we develop our systems...For example, one interesting thing we learned about the VQ37 is that the plastic intake manifold was never intended to see more than 4 psi...

In regards to Sam beating us to CARB approval...I don't know if that will happen or not. CARB testing can go very well or very bad. We have heard horror stories of companies having to go through testing four or five times, sometimes more, before their kit is approved. If you fail one test, you have to repay and reschedule for another test. The tests themselves only take a few days but they are not cheap. Also, CARB can sometimes take awhile to approve systems and get the paperwork through all the necessary steps. Some parts will take a few weeks, some parts will take a few months, or even a year or more...

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