Originally Posted by Dream Team

I think that is the point....these are not in the same category as the pony cars. They have 4 seats and weigh over 3700 pounds last I checked. Different driving feel and dynamic. No the Z has no real competitor and Nissan sells around 6000 a year which is pretty good for a rather impractical 2 seat sports car that has been around for almost a decade. Besides based on the rumors coming out of Nissan many on hear will not like the next Z if it offers no manual or isn't naturally aspirated or heaven forbid is some type of sporty crossover.