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Old 02-03-2017, 08:50 AM   #3175 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 370Z JT View Post
It would make sense if Nissan does a 300 HP base, 400 HP sport, 500 HP Nismo. The Nismo can go head to head against the RCF, AMG C63, M4 and be priced around $65K range. That would get the Nismo brand more respect. And if the next gen GTR does get the rumored 800 HP, that would be a big difference in HP to separate it from the 500 HP Z.
I am confused by your 65k range statement, you are suggesting that a historically affordable ~30k car [or equivalent of a loaded camry] will suddenly become almost the same price as a c7 z06, nissan tried that before with the 300zx and that did not work out for them.

What they need to do is transplant that 3.0T from the Q60, massage some power out of it, keep the weight around the same as the z34[probably won't happen, look at the Q60 weight its 3862- 4023lbs], add a manual transmission in it, heck even the current 6 speed can take the power, just fix the weak parts in it and maybe add a 7th gear.

Price it like the current gen, do not exceed the price of a base corvette and the sales will flow in, nismo can come later and they can price it at whatever they want, as long as the bread and butter base/sport version is affordable, fast, competitive in the market and fun.

cliff notes:
-expect a re-skinned q60, hopefully with a manual transmission, weight gain will be unavoidable, not sure how they can turn a 4,000lb Q60 into a 3200lb Z.
Maybe at best they can shave 200-300 lbs, placing the Z at 3500+lbs.


the Z34 will remain the go to car for a couple of reasons; good power/weight balance, the dimensions are just right to have reasonable consumable usage on the track, N/A engine - i.e. no issues with turbos + longevity.

If you ever seen any newer mustang at the track and talk to the owner, the #1 complaint is how fast the car eats the brakes & tires. The current Z isn't really great at that too but having a sub 3400lb weight really helps with the consumeables, i.e. you can get significantly more track time out of the same consume able parts in a Z, there is some hypothetical point where the weight dips over a certain #, the consumeable degrade in a logarithmic manner.

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