Originally Posted by FPenvy

you kinda got Nissan's main fault in there being that they haven't updated the Z aside front changing the front bumper (horrible btw) in 2013 then the new nismo body kit in 2015. the tech and performance has not changed since the 2009's came out 6 years ago. it's hard to draw in more people to a car that's this deep into its lifespan when many new cars or updates have came out across the board.

for the Z to sell it's time for the next one.

as for a vette I dig the new model. the C6 was ok but prior to that they were blahhhh until you go back enough to hit the stingray of the 70s and older.