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Originally Posted by Zbo
Ya it was cool in 2009 replacing a cheap feel 350z, the sad part was it still wasn't that much better or the same quality as an s2000 for most to sell theirs and get a z because Of the price.guys who really ally wanted a Porsche surely weren't cross shopping Nissans z. Also we're approaching 2017 prototypes and concepts to be released and like I said Nissan is Getting left in the dust, the hot hatch segment is something even Honda is jumping in on.. Nissan they have no clue what they're doing for enthusiasts. They're also the worst consumer customer satfisfaction out of all Japanese brands. Leaders in recalls And that used to be ford! Which is the funny part.
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When did this become a Ford vs Nissan thread? Or an econo crapbox vs a 2 door sports cars thread? Not necessarily directed at you Zbo just quoted you as a reference.
It's really simple to narrow down the demographic of focus svtrs buyers. 20 somethings that can't afford multiple platforms. Like somebody mentioned this car is kind of a multi tool. A dedicated track car it is not. If you've spent a decent amount of time at the track you'd see the hardcore junkies are driving stripped down, gutted cars with massive aero kits. Nobody brings a fully loaded, carpeted, tech packaged 5 door hatch back and expects to be even remotely competitive in circuit/series racing.
As far as catering to enthusiasts, who in the hell is a focus enthusiast lol. Nobody, that's who. The car is based on an economy crap box. Who cares what they charge for it. The Z has enthusiasts, the same goes for mustang, camaro, challenger etc. Also, they all share one thing in common. They are one of their kind. What I mean by that is there are no economy versions of the car at significantly lower price point/performance. Yes they offer smaller engines or option packages. But a Z is a Z and vette is a vette. There are no other versions of the car. Can any of these focus aficionados honestly claim the ford focus, in ANY iteration, has an enthusiast following (without sounding like they were dropped as babies).
Is the Z perfect, obviously not and none of the cars mentioned in this thread are perfect either. But the people buying it, for the most part and especially around here, are enthusiasts. We bought the Z for more than just the car itself. Words like lineage, heritage and predecessors come to mind. The focus simply can't make that claim. Furthermore, it is not going to draw potential buyers of true sports cars to it's camp. No cayman, Z, stang, vette etc buyer is going to look at the focus and think "wow screw 2 door sports cars and everything that comes with them, let me sign on the dotted line for that gussied up generic economy class car. I'm sure to get looks in that". Nor is any track junkie going to spend 42k on it and the beat the living hell out of it like track guys do.