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Originally Posted by RoshDawg
Thanks again for all the info Mr&Mrs and Firehawk!
Still am confused why console hardware can't be upgraded with future tech from AMD. Similar to what the N64 did with that additional memory pack or whatever that was in order to play the more memory intensive games.
I agree with the importance of the 4K support, although we'll have to wait for 4K games to come out. By that time, PS4 may come out with a refresh version (similar to PS3 Slim) that supports 4K? Who knows.
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So what your saying is they want you to buy their system now, and again when they support 4k output. Man Sony wouldn't do that they are the good guys!
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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk
There are some distinct differences even though the architecture is very very very similar. The PS4 chip looks more like what AMD is selling now, but no specs have been discussed with regards to speeds, gpu cores, etc. Having GDDR5 may not make it any faster, but it does help with bandwidth. With DDR5 having a quad multiplier instead a dual multiplier like DDR3, it's bus sizes can be half the size as DDR3 and match bandwidth, or can have the same size memory bus and have twice the bandwidth (given same base clock speeds). If the game is memory intensive, GDDR5 will definitely be an advantage. Xbox does have ESRAM though. This is basically a $hit ton of shared L4 cache for use between the CPU and GPU. It allows 50gbps+ speeds between the cpu and gpu to share. This lets both the CPU and GPU to look at what needs processed and share the load. For instance, if the GPU is being taxed and AI or physics needs processed, the CPU can pull that and execute it for the GPU. Not only that but it works just as memory would on a normal graphics card. What I don't know is how much ESRAM they have. (Read this review of Intels new processor for a very good idea of what ES ram does as it has something similar too Anandtech Haswell 5200 review) Keep in mind both are using AMD architecture for both the CPU and GPU. This will definitely help optimize games for both consoles as well as PC games very easily and quickly as they are all X86 based. |
Nice write up and is kind of what I was getting at. The PS4 has the potential for better graphics will we see it? Doubtful, will it run a little smoother? Probably but not to a degree we can see physically.
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Originally Posted by Dzel
Sooooo um which ones better? My head hurts and I lost myself trying to read this....
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Haha sorry trying to get all the tech geek info out too. I guess what I was getting at with all that info is...that there is more than one way to skin a cat. Both systems are going to get in done remarkably well just in a little different manner.
For me my choice is for the best in online gaming experience putting everything else aside. That is what im trying to figure out with the previous generation systems it was the 360 hands down. The only reason Sony caught up in sales was because of the online gaming being free. Well thats over now.
I am trying very hard to find numbers for the PS4 on those lines but they have not released any info. It is really starting to bother me that they are being so tight liped. Microsoft may be saying things people dont want to hear but at least they have the balls to do it.
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Originally Posted by XiP
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Respect brother!
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Originally Posted by Caustic
No way MS is getting my money. It is way too intrusive for me just to play video games. Nothing in my house is anywhere near as intrusive as that machine except for my phone and computer. And have full control over them to config and lock them down how I want. No way to do that with the Xbone.
As far as which console is better? Don't even bother trying to figure out specs, its the library of games that matters. Most developers create a version that runs on both with no differences. It is rare that a developer will take the time to put in art assets or programming effort to make a game look 3% better. It is not cost effective.
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This day and age the only way to stay away from big brother is being off the grid. The fact you even post on this forum ruins that, you have been logged not matter what you do to your personal system/network. We could go way off topic with that, but I just had to say those couple words
The second part of your comment is 100% true and I mentioned it above in different words.