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Old 08-06-2009, 10:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
speedfreak28
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mehhh, pioneer still makes some good products, alpine isnt the brand it once was either. Seems like bad personal experience ive installed at least 15-20 pioneers with little to no issue. Same goes for alpine, kenwood and clarion. They're all gonna have their defects, you just had bad luck.
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