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Originally Posted by FricFrac
Yea but $1200 (around $900+ before travel) is a little steep for me to justify the end result at this point in time for a dyno tune at a sanctioned tuner.... what is everyone else paying for a tune?
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Where are you getting your numbers from? It doesn't cost that much to get a dyno tune with UpRev. When you do a dyno tune with UpRev, you don't have to purchase their software because the tuner already has it and you're paying him to (a) do the tune, and (b) upload the new map into your ECU with
his copy of the UpRev Osiris software. You only need to purchase the software yourself if you want the data logging capabilities of Cipher. Cipher costs $300. You don't need Osiris, because the tuner is using his copy of Osiris Tuner to flash your ECU.
Let me put it this way. I know how much Sharif would charge me if we dyno tuned with UpRev. I know how much he'll charge me when we do it with Cobb. It's not my place to disclose his rates here. But I will tell you that if I just did UpRev and didn't get Cipher, it'd be cheaper than Cobb. But we need to compare apples to apples as best we can. With Cobb, you get the dyno tune and you drive away with the AP device afterwards, which does the datalogging, allows you to switch in the valet and anti-theft maps, etc. Point being, to compare the UpRev price to the Cobb price, we have to throw in Cipher. At that point, the price difference between the two is marginal. i.e., the price of dyno tuning plus a copy of Cipher is roughly equivalent to the price of dyno tuning with Cobb, which automatically gives you their AP device to take with you. Cobb still ends up being a tad more expensive, but I think you get a little more as well. What I mean by this is that with Cobb, you get a self-contained device for datalogging. With UpRev Cipher, you still need to supply your own laptop to plug in. Cipher is just software you run on your laptop; there's no hardware. I don't know about you, but I don't really feel comfortable about driving around with my $3k laptop open and running and just sitting unsecured on the passenger seat while I drive around at WOT.
So the net of this is, if all you want is a proper dyno tune with UpRev and you don't care about datalogging, it won't run you $1200. Not even close. If you do want datalogging with UpRev Cipher, it still won't run you $1200 total (although it will admittedly be a lot closer to that mark). Furthermore, if you do want datalogging, then at that point I think you have to seriously consider going with Cobb instead. Unless, of course, you don't care about having a self-contained handheld device vs. having to use your own laptop.