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Spooler 10-07-2017 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3698698)
Can one safely fit 325’s on rear sport wheels? Sorry haven’t read through entire thread yet. At the tire shop and checking out my options.

Nismo wheels, YES, Sport wheels, NO. too narrow.

Zbrah 10-07-2017 06:45 PM

Thanks Spooler. I ended up grabbing the 325s the shop had in but will be mounting them on another set of wheels that’s wider. Also ordered some new 275/35s Bridgestone S-04s for the fronts. Can’t wait to see the new wheels finally getting mounted. The 325s are massive!

Rusty 10-07-2017 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3698751)
Thanks Spooler. I ended up grabbing the 325s the shop had in but will be mounting them on another set of wheels that’s wider. Also ordered some new 275/35s Bridgestone S-04s for the fronts. Can’t wait to see the new wheels finally getting mounted. The 325s are massive!

Once you go meaty. Everything else is small. :rofl2:

SG4247 01-17-2018 07:12 PM

I have the 285 fr and 325 rear RE11 tires on Nismo wheels. Be advised, no agressive driving when the temp is below freezing. I have now spun mine out twice in the very cold dry temperatures. They are one year old. Installed Jan 2017.

Guess I am a slow learner, but this car handles very differently with RE-11 tires in sub 32 temps, even after driving for 30 miles...

Spooler 01-17-2018 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3722785)
I have the 285 fr and 325 rear RE11 tires on Nismo wheels. Be advised, no agressive driving when the temp is below freezing. I have now spun mine out twice in the very cold dry temperatures. They are one year old. Installed Jan 2017.

Guess I am a slow learner, but this car handles very differently with RE-11 tires in sub 32 temps, even after driving for 30 miles...

I drive on mine all year long. Below 40 deg, they can be fun. Don't get crazy in those temps.

Rusty 01-17-2018 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3722785)
I have the 285 fr and 325 rear RE11 tires on Nismo wheels. Be advised, no agressive driving when the temp is below freezing. I have now spun mine out twice in the very cold dry temperatures. They are one year old. Installed Jan 2017.

Guess I am a slow learner, but this car handles very differently with RE-11 tires in sub 32 temps, even after driving for 30 miles...

Guess you're a little slow on the up take. You spun once and didn't learn your lesson. You had to do it again. :rofl2: Glad no one was hurt.

SG4247 01-18-2018 08:27 AM

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Yea... car went to the body shop yesterday to get the front facia replaced...from excessive curb contact. Wheel liner, headlight, washer bottle, etc...

Basically, a $1000 mistake on my part, insurance duductable.

Rusty 01-18-2018 02:48 PM

That's a lesson you won't forget anytime soon.

SG4247 01-18-2018 03:26 PM

So, I am 50 yrs old and been racing and building cars my whole life.

I have lenghty experience in cars that run over 160 mph.

The first spin out, I wrote off to me just being behind the car, while pushing it.

This weeks curb attack caught me totally off guard, and could have been serious since it was during rush hour - in interstate traffic.

Lesson Learned

Hotrodz 01-18-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3723028)
So, I am 50 yrs old and been racing and building cars my whole life.

I have lenghty experience in cars that run over 160 mph.

The first spin out I wrote off to me just being behind the car, while pushing it.

This weeks curb attack caught me totally off guard, and could have been serious since it was during rush hour - in interstate traffic.

Lesson Learned

Lol, never to old to learn the same lessons again! I'm glad it didn't have to hurt to bad for ya.

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shyndashu 03-07-2018 06:12 PM

Considering going this route with tires on my 2014 Nismo. Will these tires still fit with lowering springs? I was thinking of going with Ark-GTS or Swift springs. Now the Ark-GTS is apparently lower than Swift so wasn't sure if it would have camber or rubbing issues. Can anybody chime in?

iidylii 03-08-2018 12:09 AM

Would there be a problem with the tire guy putting run flats size 285 35 19 on the front nismo rims...I know in earlier posts it was mentione that it was tough to fit the 325 run flats on the rear so just wondering on run flats on the front nismo rims?

Spooler 03-08-2018 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shyndashu (Post 3736727)
Considering going this route with tires on my 2014 Nismo. Will these tires still fit with lowering springs? I was thinking of going with Ark-GTS or Swift springs. Now the Ark-GTS is apparently lower than Swift so wasn't sure if it would have camber or rubbing issues. Can anybody chime in?

With front and rear camber arms it shouldn't be an issue. You should be able to adjust it if need be. I have no issues and I am lowered on coilovers.

jchammond 03-08-2018 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by iidylii (Post 3736840)
Would there be a problem with the tire guy putting run flats size 285 35 19 on the front nismo rims...I know in earlier posts it was mentione that it was tough to fit the 325 run flats on the rear so just wondering on run flats on the front nismo rims?

They will fit; really helpful to have skilled tire changer w/Quality tire machine,,,you may have to call around.

MikesZ 03-14-2018 06:11 AM

Would the 285 35 19 work on a 19x9.5 +23 offset or would it poke out up front to much.

jchammond 03-14-2018 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MikesZ (Post 3738548)
Would the 285 35 19 work on a 19x9.5 +23 offset or would it poke out up front to much.

The PS4’s work fine on Rusty’s +25 offset 19x9.5’s...on stock ride height Nismo suspension.

Nithmo 03-14-2018 10:56 PM

I have to ask- has anyone run this setup at the track? What did your lap times look like, in comparison to a previous setup? Wondering how that much more rotational mass impacts braking and cornering. It can't be good, can it?

Rusty 03-14-2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo (Post 3738812)
I have to ask- has anyone run this setup at the track? What did your lap times look like, in comparison to a previous setup? Wondering how that much more rotational mass impacts braking and cornering. It can't be good, can it?

First set up was 275/35-19 PSS on 19x9.5, and 325/30-19 PSS on 19x12 Forgeline rims. Alot more grip then stock. After the 325's worn out. I put 345/30-19 PSS on. You really have to push to get them to break loose. After the fronts worn out. I put 285/35-19 PS4S on. Ton of grip. :driving: You really have to be stupid to get into trouble.

Nithmo 03-15-2018 10:53 AM

That doesn't really answer the question, though. I'm more concerned about having a 325, with that much extra meat, on a 10.5" wheel, in the back. It's different having the 325 on a 12" wide back wheel, as it isn't nearly as whatever the opposite of stretched is. (LoL)

I guess I should clarify- it's not the fitment that is a concern, but more so, what is the performance aspect? Is it safe to do high speed cornering with 40mm more tire placed on the same wheel?

I'm not surprised about the increased tread life and increased grip- those do definitely make sense. But what about acceleration, braking, and handling feel? I'd imagine if you went back down in size, the car would feel faster and nimbler. So much more rotational mass to spin (aka kills power being put down to the wheels, etc).

It's kind of like my daily beater... a 2006 Acura TL 6MT. I use the oem wheels for winter use, and have bigger wheels/tires for summer use. After I pull the summers off in the fall, the car feels completely different. You don't nearly notice it as much when you put the beefier tires on... but you totally feel it when you take them off and replace with something smaller.

Nithmo 03-15-2018 11:23 AM

And final question regarding this setup...

So no spacers are required, if running the 285F and 325R, on Nismo wheels... if anything, maybe a 5mm spacer up front. Nothing for the rear.

For those on lowered suspension, do you have any rubbing issues whatsoever? Just making sure this is a smart setup for myself, as I plan on hitting the track and the last thing I want is to be worried about the tires constantly rubbing on something. My plan, at least for the time being, is simply going with Swift springs, and nothing else. Maybe coilovers in the future, but for now, just the springs.

Someone should update the original post.. OP made a bunch of assumptions when he decided to go this route... it would be cool to see a summary of the findings and answers to the assumptions originally made, without reading through 15 pages. It seems there isn't anything inherently overly negative about going this route, besides as I mentioned... slightly slower acceleration, less steering feel, and slightly slower braking... with the upside being longer tire life, good looks and better corner grip.

Spooler 03-15-2018 12:26 PM

No, you will have no issues if you lower it down a bit. Just make sure you the adjustable arms to set the toe and camber when you do it.

Rusty 03-15-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo (Post 3738882)
That doesn't really answer the question, though. I'm more concerned about having a 325, with that much extra meat, on a 10.5" wheel, in the back. It's different having the 325 on a 12" wide back wheel, as it isn't nearly as whatever the opposite of stretched is. (LoL)

I guess I should clarify- it's not the fitment that is a concern, but more so, what is the performance aspect? Is it safe to do high speed cornering with 40mm more tire placed on the same wheel?

I'm not surprised about the increased tread life and increased grip- those do definitely make sense. But what about acceleration, braking, and handling feel? I'd imagine if you went back down in size, the car would feel faster and nimbler. So much more rotational mass to spin (aka kills power being put down to the wheels, etc).

It's kind of like my daily beater... a 2006 Acura TL 6MT. I use the oem wheels for winter use, and have bigger wheels/tires for summer use. After I pull the summers off in the fall, the car feels completely different. You don't nearly notice it as much when you put the beefier tires on... but you totally feel it when you take them off and replace with something smaller.

True. My Z is set-up for the track. :driving: Alignment setting, sway bars, full SPL parts catalog, brake pads and rotors.

BOLIO 671 03-18-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3738905)
No, you will have no issues if you lower it down a bit. Just make sure you the adjustable arms to set the toe and camber when you do it.

So u need a camber kit to run this set up lowered? I am on Swift lowering springs right now on a completely stock Nismo suspension. I have a friend who is on this set up on his Nismo but is at stock height with the OEM Nismo suspension.

Nithmo 03-20-2018 09:19 AM

Tires won't impact your camber. The lowering springs will. If you have no camber issues after putting the Swift springs on, you'll be fine.

I've heard the Swift springs are a modest enough drop that you don't necessarily need camber correction. Tire size shouldn't have much of an impact otherwise.

Nithmo 03-20-2018 05:51 PM

Ok, I'm having a bit of a wtf moment...

I decided to go with RE-11s in 285/35R19 for the front, and 325/30R19 for the rear, from Costco... but there's a bit of an issue: Costco tells me that Bridgestone discontinued the RE-11s!!!

Ok, I'll go with my plan "B" option: I'd go with the RE-71Rs instead... except they apparently don't come in a 325 size!!!

The only other tire Costco sells in that size is the RE-050, but I think that tire sucks balls... it doesn't even come close to the RE-11, or the slightly better RE-71R...

SO NOW WHAT DO I DO?!?!?

Spooler 03-20-2018 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo (Post 3740369)
Ok, I'm having a bit of a wtf moment...

I decided to go with RE-11s in 285/35R19 for the front, and 325/30R19 for the rear, from Costco... but there's a bit of an issue: Costco tells me that Bridgestone discontinued the RE-11s!!!

Ok, I'll go with my plan "B" option: I'd go with the RE-71Rs instead... except they apparently don't come in a 325 size!!!

The only other tire Costco sells in that size is the RE-050, but I think that tire sucks balls... it doesn't even come close to the RE-11, or the slightly better RE-71R...

SO NOW WHAT DO I DO?!?!?

The only choice you have is Michelin PS4's. That is what I am going to go with next set unless Bridgestone releases a replacement for the RE11's. Only old stock is left. They may all be gone now. I am not happy they discontinued this tire. It had great grip with good longevity.

Nithmo 03-20-2018 07:44 PM

This really chaps my ***. This would've been my third set of RE-11s/RE-11As. By far my all around favorite tire, to date. No idea why they scrapped them altogether. Sigh.

I'll do some looking into it, but I get the feeling the PS4s won't stack up against the RE-11s, when they get warmed up on the track.

Hotrodz 03-20-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo (Post 3740392)
This really chaps my ***. This would've been my third set of RE-11s/RE-11As. By far my all around favorite tire, to date. No idea why they scrapped them altogether. Sigh.

I'll do some looking into it, but I get the feeling the PS4s won't stack up against the RE-11s, when they get warmed up on the track.

I will give you some feedback their track performance as my buddy just put a set on his 1le camaro and we are headed to the track this weekend.

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Rusty 03-20-2018 08:09 PM

I track with the PSS's. They will hold up for about 20 ~ 25 minutes before getting greasy. I now have 285/35-19 PS4S on the front. They feel like they have a lot more grip then the PSS's on the street.

BOLIO 671 03-21-2018 09:02 AM

Wow the RE-11s were discontinued???? That’s sucks @$$

Nithmo 03-21-2018 11:04 AM

They were discontinued a couple years ago... people were just buying remaining stock, in the system, it appears.

I'm a really big fan of Bridgestone tires. They've never let me down and have generally exceeded my expectations. I feel Michelin will have good alternatives... but they won't be as cheap, unfortunately.

Going to Costco again.. hoping they can track some 325s down for me (I went yesterday after the Bridgestone office was closed) somewhere... if not, I'll likely go with 305s in the back instead.

Hotrodz 03-21-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3740403)
I track with the PSS's. They will hold up for about 20 ~ 25 minutes before getting greasy. I now have 285/35-19 PS4S on the front. They feel like they have a lot more grip then the PSS's on the street.

From what I have read and heard PS4Ss are supposed to be better than re11s.

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Rusty 03-21-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3740610)
From what I have read and heard PS4Ss are supposed to be better than re11s.

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On the front. I went from PSS to the PS4S. I could tell right away of how much more grip there was. :driving:

Hotrodz 03-21-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3740684)
On the front. I went from PSS to the PS4S. I could tell right away of how much more grip there was. :driving:

PSSs were a good compromise between were and grip. They tended to last longer than re11s but did not perform as well. The new ps4s was built to improve on grip while keeping its wear and wet weather characteristics.

I would not recommend r71r's for street or track for the most part. My track buddy that I keep talking about has been through 2 sets of r71r's and got about 6 sessions out of the before the steel belts were showing. When I talk to the experience time trial or time attack guys they say the love them but they are only good for one session and really about 3 laps before they start to loose grip. NTO1s are still king for 100 tread wear track tire.

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Nithmo 03-22-2018 09:19 AM

Sigh... I ended up going with Cooper Zeon RS3-S tires.

I was able to get them in 325s and admittedly, they were cheap as ****.

I get the feeling these tires kind of suck (who buys coopers?), but, given that I've upped the tire width by so much, I'm still hoping these provide way better grip than the stock Bridgestone S001s. Those things were god awful and I chewed through 60% of them in one autocross day.

Being in Canada, all in, with shipping and taxes and everything, I paid about $1250 for all four corners. I'd otherwise be looking to spend about $900-1000 more for Michelin PS4s. I really didn't want to pay over 2k for tires, that may or may not last more than 1.5 seasons!

NVSTR 05-03-2018 11:56 PM

In case you wanted to see what these tires look like with a little drop
 
http://i66.tinypic.com/148kye8.jpg

No spacers

:tup:

Gatz 05-04-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NVSTR (Post 3752752)


You went with 325 tire in rear and what drop?

Would 305/30/19 look weird with 285’s up front?

loiro370z 05-07-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatz (Post 3752947)
You went with 325 tire in rear and what drop?

Would 305/30/19 look weird with 285’s up front?

285/305 dont look weird (first photo), but with 285/325(second photo) look better and super agresive

littlejuanito 07-10-2018 07:59 PM

Anyone have a pic of their setup on the 15+ Nismo wheels with 285/35 front and 325/30 rear?

broZ 07-23-2018 05:17 AM

So since the RE-11's were discontinued, the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's have come out (made by Bridgestone? maybe?) and they seem to be very similar, and they have good reviews on TireRack. Any opinions here?


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