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Corsairprime 05-12-2015 07:58 PM

It's not dropped. The tires do fill the wheel well quite nicely. You might have rubbing if you go lower. It looks like it to me if I tried to lower my Z.

The other nice thing is the sidewalls of the tires are vertical instead of bowed in. Hopefully lessens the chance of curbing the rims. Good luck if you do lower your Z.

VinceThe1 05-12-2015 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zipper1 (Post 3196209)
Im considering this mod to get the beefier look as well on my 2015 Nismo with stock Rays wheels.. I wont be using spacers but i do want to install Swift springs. From what im reading i should be flush but at stock height. I didnt catch if your car was dropped or not.
What should i expect? Is it possible to lower the car on this setup without rubbing. Camber?

This setup shouldn't rub with any lowring...unless camber arms then maybe, depending on how you do the alignment. Thing is, lowering only tucks the tires in more as you get.more camber...so lowering by just installing lowering springs should definately not rub.

My car is at stock ride height so I can't speak from experience, however the Z is my daily driver...I go everywhere with it and the stock clearance is already on the edge for that. No, I won't lift it lol...but I don't want to lower it either.

roplusbee 05-12-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Corsairprime (Post 3195589)
All, After having read this thread, I followed the wider tire advice. I went with Hankook Ventus Evo2s all around. I used the 265/35ZR19 up front and the 305/30ZR19 in the back. Plenty beefy as tires go. Very good grip in the wet. It's been raining here in North Texas for the last 7-10 days. The tracking is very crisp. I got a fresh alignment due to the toe wear on all 4 OEM tires. The OEM Bridgestone S001s lasted 19400 miles (Surprised even me). Steering effort with the Evo2s is nice and light at speed. Not overly stiff at crawling speeds.

Just my $.02 worth.

Tip of the hat to VinceThe1 for a good write-up and suggestion. My '14 Nismo thanks you as well.

The Hankook Evo2 is very good in wet conditions versus pretty much anything in the Max performance / Extreme Performance category. There are a few tires that trump, but I don't remember the comparison (don't have time to search right now either). If I were in an environment that got a good deal of rain and/or didn't drop below 40F very often, I would run those all year round (which is what I did in TX). The ADVAN is awesome when it is dry and horrible when it is wet, but it can take the cold and freezing temps very well.

I am very tempted to try out the RE-11, but I do not like the price or the wet traction ratings the I have seen in the past. Who knows, I could end up in Baltimore and we all know how that goes (I'm from there, so I really do know). :ughdance:

VinceThe1 05-12-2015 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 3196408)
The Hankook Evo2 is very good in wet conditions versus pretty much anything in the Max performance / Extreme Performance category. There are a few tires that trump, but I don't remember the comparison (don't have time to search right now either). If I were in an environment that got a good deal of rain and/or didn't drop below 40F very often, I would run those all year round (which is what I did in TX). The ADVAN is awesome when it is dry and horrible when it is wet, but it can take the cold and freezing temps very well.

I am very tempted to try out the RE-11, but I do not like the price or the wet traction ratings the I have seen in the past. Who knows, I could end up in Baltimore and we all know how that goes (I'm from there, so I really do know). :ughdance:

It's funny how traction is the last thing on my mind when buying tires...I guess for winter it can be more important on what kind of tires you have on but I really buy tires by price and size lol. In the wet, wider tires are gonna hydroplane easier by physics law (even though I haven't noticed it, and it also depends on the tire tread as well, but wider is never a good thing for rain in general), however I don't really mind since most of the time I prefer to have less traction...makes it more fun lol

kenchan 05-13-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by VinceThe1 (Post 3196440)
It's funny how traction is the last thing on my mind when buying tires...I guess for winter it can be more important on what kind of tires you have on but I really buy tires by price and size lol. In the wet, wider tires are gonna hydroplane easier by physics law (even though I haven't noticed it, and it also depends on the tire tread as well, but wider is never a good thing for rain in general), however I don't really mind since most of the time I prefer to have less traction...makes it more fun lol

dat explains your v12 purchase...? :ugh:

VinceThe1 05-13-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3196861)
dat explains your v12 purchase...? :ugh:

Hahaha, not really...I wouldn't of bought handcocks, however they came with the used set of Nismo wheels I bought :)

I did however buy the cooper 325s...they were just too good a deal at $180/piece. That was under $400 unstalled for both, anything else would of cost me $600 or more. Mayhe next time I'll get RE-11s since ~$600 isn't a bad deal for those.

VinceThe1 05-13-2015 12:16 PM

If I could find 325/30R19 RE-11s for that cheap, idk how JaviZ found them but from what I'm seeing the're up by the $700s. There really is no better deal than the Cooper RS-3S 325/30R19s, $180 at Discount Tire.

VinceThe1 05-13-2015 12:18 PM

And here:

Tire Results | Tread Depot

JaviZ 05-13-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VinceThe1 (Post 3197017)
If I could find 325/30R19 RE-11s for that cheap, idk how JaviZ found them but from what I'm seeing the're up by the $700s. There really is no better deal than the Cooper RS-3S 325/30R19s, $180 at Discount Tire.

I found a pretty sweet deal on Ebay and bid even lower than the asking price, lol.

http://www.the370z.com/members/javiz...6638-image.jpg

kenchan 05-13-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VinceThe1 (Post 3197021)

huh, they dont even carry bridgestones? fail! :mad: :icon17:

i buy all my tires from tirerack. :D

VinceThe1 05-13-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3197311)
huh, they dont even carry bridgestones? fail! :mad: :icon17:

i buy all my tires from tirerack. :D

So offering Michelins, Pirellis, Goodyears, and Toyos is a fail because they don't offer bridgestones? Haha well I guess you're strict on tirerack...I'm just strict on getting a decent tire for a decent price. :tup:

VinceThe1 05-13-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JaviZ (Post 3197307)
I found a pretty sweet deal on Ebay and bid even lower than the asking price, lol.

http://www.the370z.com/members/javiz...6638-image.jpg

That's a great deal, too bad you can't get it again without looking for one for a few days/weeks/maybe months lol

kenchan 05-14-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by VinceThe1 (Post 3197578)
So offering Michelins, Pirellis, Goodyears, and Toyos is a fail because they don't offer bridgestones? Haha well I guess you're strict on tirerack...I'm just strict on getting a decent tire for a decent price. :tup:

yah.

im not necessarily just tirerack, i go to my local discount tire store to get tires mounted as they have the updated touchless mounters. discount tires also carry a full line of tires, but local stores dont keep the good tires in-stock.. thus i just buy from tirerack as they have them in-house.

if it was for a company mini van, decent tires for decent price is fine.

VinceThe1 05-15-2015 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3198040)
yah.

im not necessarily just tirerack, i go to my local discount tire store to get tires mounted as they have the updated touchless mounters. discount tires also carry a full line of tires, but local stores dont keep the good tires in-stock.. thus i just buy from tirerack as they have them in-house.

if it was for a company mini van, decent tires for decent price is fine.

I guess you don't drive your Z like I drive mine...My "often sideways" driving style means I'm not after traction, and becuase of that driving style, my tires don't last for too long either. I don't see a point in buying tires that are $400 a piece if I'm gonna treat them like crap and have to replacae them after 6 months to a year. :ugh2:

I absolutely hate cheap tires and never buy the cheapeat thing out there...brands like mayrun or archillies tires are not in my radar. The coopers were a test tire because noone had put a 325 tire on a Nismo wheel before (that I could find), so I bought a used pair of Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 325/30R19s off ebay for a test fit (tires that are $450 a piece when new) because I wasn't even sure if 10.5" wheels can take 325s, and nowhere online could I find anyone who has done it...on any car. Those didn't work out because neither Discount Tire, Goodyear tire shop, or any other tire shop I went to could mount them. The reason ended up being that they are Runflats, and the sidewalls are very thick and stiff, so the beads can't pop over the inside lip...so the beads can't seat/seat...because 10.5 is too narrow for those (runflat) 325s. At Discount Tire (which do carry Bridgestones btw), they told me their computer says I can fit 325/30R19 and they offered me these tires, so I bought them for a test fit, I wouldn't of bought coopers otherwise.

Now that I've put a few thousand miles on them though, I'm really impressed with them. For that price (twice+ cheaper than anything else this size) the tire is fantastic...I really have no complaints. There's no vibration, theres no visual defects/bubbles. There's plenty of traction (want it or not), they have a good treadwear rating for a summer tire and I can confirm that as they are taking a lot of abuse without showing any real signs of wear after 5k miles. They seem even quieter than the 3 pairs of Bridgestones, and the pair of Hankooks I've had on... They're a very good tire IMHO. Are they worth it? I'd say definately.

VinceThe1 05-15-2015 12:21 AM

There's limited choice in tires when you get to sizes like that (compated to 275s and 285s). Also, they start to get really expencive in comparrison as well, they don't really have too many (if any) "cheap, bad tires" when it comes to supercar tire sizes...we're not talking 195s and 215s here.

AntiVenom 05-15-2015 06:09 AM

So, and this is out of curiosity, why run such wide tired in the back if you are going to be "often sideways" Do you simply prefer the look? I ask because I always thought a *little* stretch was better for the drift-a-roo.

VinceThe1 05-15-2015 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiVenom (Post 3198801)
So, and this is out of curiosity, why run such wide tired in the back if you are going to be "often sideways" Do you simply prefer the look? I ask because I always thought a *little* stretch was better for the drift-a-roo.

I prefer the look and the ride. Also, the wider tires take a lot more abuse without decintegrating, I had base 245s on at one point and those wore out withing a couple months. Wider tires last a lot longer when you don't baby them.

Besides, contact patch doesn't increase with a wider tire, it just changes shape...and even if it did slightly, surface area does not add traction because the car's weight gets distribited throughout that surface area, so you have less weight per square, so it amounts to pretty much the same thing. Wide tires are for taking heat and having a lot of rubber to burn, the type of tire compound is what gives you different levels of traction (in the dry)...on different surfaces.

Spooler 05-24-2015 11:39 PM

The next set, I am going this route. I can't stand the stretched look. Of coarse the rears will be first. Too bad they don't have 325's in SO4's.

Spooler 08-06-2015 10:24 PM

Well, my rear tires are about done. Working on getting my new set of RE11's in these sizes front and rear. Tirerack didn't have the 325/30/19's in their warehouse close by. (25 min. drive from work) So, it looks like I will need to have them shipped in. My local tire shop I use says they will match the tireracks price and take off a dollar a tire. Guess I will give them a shot at my business. I normally just bring my car and tires to them to install.

Spooler 08-07-2015 02:06 PM

New tires are being shipped in by Wednesday next week. Will be installed on Thursday. Hope I can make it through all the rain. Not much left of the rears. LOL

Spooler 08-13-2015 10:36 AM

Just dropped the car off. 325/30/19's are some wide as tires. Pictures this weekend after a good cleaning.

Spooler 08-13-2015 07:03 PM

They look good, not perfect though. The factory rims need to be 1/2 in. to 1 in. wider. Looks like I am loosing some contact patch of the tire on the table. No rubbing issues at all. I forgot I just put them on and had it pinned on an on ramp. I blipped the throttle half way through. I think I may be able to go flat footed around this turn with these tires. Turbo car, not happening...LOL

Spooler 08-14-2015 06:50 PM

LOL, these tires have grip for days.

ThreeSeven 08-15-2015 06:16 PM

Looking at a new full set of tires, I have 245/40R19 in front and 275/35R19 in the back, looking to pick up some Bridgestone S-04 Pole Position. Will I need spacers or anything done to my car when going larger? I was going to go with the 245 and 285 in the back because I had read others suggest it since it's supposedly narrower on the 275.

Spooler 08-15-2015 10:09 PM

Rear pictures. No need for spacers. The side shot was out of focus. Oops.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/...psxtbpminj.jpg

Front pictures.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/...pst0weo9pp.jpg

2015nismo 08-18-2015 03:09 PM

As soon as my stock tires need replacement, I'm opting for 285's in front and 325's in rear. A friend of mine has 285 Corvette spec tires in the rear with a 15mm spacer on them. It looks really good.

Spooler 08-22-2015 09:56 PM

Got some lowering room.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/...psshykyptw.jpg

Alain 08-25-2015 01:37 PM

I just placed an order for 325-30-19 Potenza RE11. I will put my rear Potenza S001 on the front. Hopefully they will work well together! :driving:

Spooler 08-25-2015 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alain (Post 3293458)
I just placed an order for 325-30-19 Potenza RE11. I will put my rear Potenza S001 on the front. Hopefully they will work well together! :driving:

The RE-11's have a ton of grip so be expecting some under steer.

Alain 08-26-2015 02:39 PM

I can manage under steer, I used to autoX FWD.

Flight Monkey 08-29-2015 09:40 AM

Thx Vince!
 
thanks for everything you've posted, I'm a newb here and I'm doing my research for new shoes for my 2014 Z. Stock Potenzas have 27k K on them and its time to upgrade. I'm in Dubai, so I have to research everything I need then order it. your post helped a lot!
:tiphat:

VinceThe1 09-13-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Flight Monkey (Post 3296639)
thanks for everything you've posted, I'm a newb here and I'm doing my research for new shoes for my 2014 Z. Stock Potenzas have 27k K on them and its time to upgrade. I'm in Dubai, so I have to research everything I need then order it. your post helped a lot!
:tiphat:

No problem! Glad I could help.

ThreeSeven 09-15-2015 04:34 PM

I was content with just buying 245/285 Bridgestone S-04 PP, but it's not that much more for 285/305.

Rusty 09-15-2015 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThreeSeven (Post 3309733)
I was content with just buying 245/285 Bridgestone S-04 PP, but it's not that much more for 285/305.

Go big or go home. :D

Spooler 09-15-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThreeSeven (Post 3309733)
I was content with just buying 245/285 Bridgestone S-04 PP, but it's not that much more for 285/305.

Get the RE11's. Much better grip.

Hotrodz 09-15-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3309886)
Go big or go home. :D

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3309891)
Get the RE11's. Much better grip.

What do you guys think about RE-11 285 or 275 with 305s? I have new 305s in the rear and will need front tires soon!

Rusty 09-15-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3309975)
What do you guys think about RE-11 285 or 275 with 305s? I have new 305s in the rear and will need front tires soon!

If you are going back to Deals Gap. Get the biggest tires that will fit in the front. :driving:

Hotrodz 09-15-2015 10:28 PM

LOL, you know it brother...she goes in a straight line here most of the time as there are not many twisties around here. I am planning on doing my first couple of track days before ZDAYZ. I got to stretch her legs...285s will square her up some and take some of the push out I would presume, but I'm over 600whp now, so we will see!:p

Spooler 09-16-2015 07:11 AM

Go 285/35 on the front. You can always change the rear out to 325's when you wear your 305's out.

Hotrodz 09-16-2015 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3309980)
If you are going back to Deals Gap. Get the biggest tires that will fit in the front. :driving:

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3310114)
Go 285/35 on the front. You can always change the rear out to 325's when you wear your 305's out.

Thanks guys...I want to be part of the official Big Booty Trudy Club!!!:owned:


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