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Neal040335 05-15-2014 01:27 PM

Tire Help
 
I need to replace the original tires on my 2010 z. Any recommendations? I am not looking for a high performance tire. Probably in the middle range for performance and I am interested in lo road noise. Siggestions?

Thanks
Neal040335

XPNSD IT 05-15-2014 02:18 PM

What is your price range? That is always the dilemma.

Mid-range I would recommend the Bridgestone S-04, on special now at tirerack. You can get front/rear for less than $900.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

kenchan 05-15-2014 02:19 PM

the bridgestone S04's are nice, the continental DW is also good.

run 285/35/19 on the rears, if you have sport 19's.. :tup:

XPNSD IT 05-15-2014 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2820075)
the bridgestone S04's are nice, the continental DW is also good.

run 285/35/19 on the rears, if you have sport 19's.. :tup:

And you get a free 2 night stay at the Marriot!!!

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

kenchan 05-15-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPNSD IT (Post 2820087)
And you get a free 2 night stay at the Marriot!!!

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

:icon18: holy shitt. lol'ed

i got a flip camera long time ago when i bought my first set of DW's... :D

Driftomodachi 05-15-2014 03:09 PM

If you want to go super cheap chack out Mayrun tires on onlinetires.com

JARblue 05-15-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 2820164)
If you want to go super cheap ...

This is NEVER something that I would recommend with regard to tires. The Z is a sports car, not a bicycle.

I agree with the S-04 suggestion. They are great tires for the price :driving:

MacCool 05-15-2014 03:54 PM

I recently picked up the Potenza S-04's and find them to perform just fine. They're highly rated and you can get them for about $830 for the four. I bought mine for my 2014 Z (replacing OEM) from Tire Rack for $800 about a month ago (b0ught mainly because they have better wet performance than stock as well as better wear rating).

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...=57751&tab=All

http://SSEquine.net/tirecomparison.jpg

kenchan 05-15-2014 04:36 PM

yah, for some reason the S04 in 275/35/19 size is very narrow compared to normal 275's like the RE050A's.
(maybe for the vip sedan crowd? :confused:)

so i recommend anyone getting the S04's to get the nismo size rear which is 285/35/19. they look real nice, grip nice, and just an overall very good tire. :tup:

kenchan 05-15-2014 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 2820164)
If you want to go super cheap chack out Mayrun tires on onlinetires.com

:ugh2:

madwi 05-15-2014 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2820284)
yah, for some reason the S04 in 275/35/19 size is very narrow compared to normal 275's like the RE050A's.
(maybe for the vip sedan crowd? :confused:)

so i recommend anyone getting the S04's to get the nismo size rear which is 285/35/19. they look real nice, grip nice, and just an overall very good tire. :tup:

^^^REPORTED^^^*for being positive and helpful*

cautupwitdm 05-16-2014 06:03 AM

I went to a car meet a few weeks ago at Miller Motorsports Park and I'd say 4 out of 5 of the cars that track their cars and that were DDs were using Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I saw an Audi R8 with'em (who happens to be a NASA instructor), a ton of WRX's/Sti's, an R32, a 350z, Mustangs, Miatas, some M3/M4's, and a few others. I am in the market for some tires as well and I talked to a few of the owners and they said that they are great tires on and off the track.

My vote is for the Michelin PSS

And no, this was not a PSS meet =)

madwi 05-16-2014 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cautupwitdm (Post 2820792)
I went to a car meet a few weeks ago at Miller Motorsports Park and I'd say 4 out of 5 of the cars that track their cars and that were DDs were using Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I saw an Audi R8 with'em (who happens to be a NASA instructor), a ton of WRX's/Sti's, an R32, a 350z, Mustangs, Miatas, some M3/M4's, and a few others. I am in the market for some tires as well and I talked to a few of the owners and they said that they are great tires on and off the track.

My vote is for the Michelin PSS

And no, this was not a PSS meet =)

Great suggestion but I don't think they are going to be in OPs budget and are way too performance tire for him.

MacCool 05-16-2014 07:08 AM

I strongly considered PSS and I suspect they're probably at least marginally better tires. I didn't get them because I didn't and don't believe that MY performance needs made them anywhere near worth the 30% / $400 cost increase over the S-04's, especially for the marginal performance edge.

cautupwitdm 05-23-2014 11:58 AM

I would disagree with the PSS being marginally better over the S-04's. I'd say the 30% difference in price is closer to the difference in performance than you think. If you are basing your numbers from that graph, notice how many more miles (more data) the PSS' s have compared to the S-04's. There is a reason more people are using them. But hey, if it's not within your budget or drive style then I guess that makes sense. S-04's will do the job.

Sent from my Note 3

Hatsuongmai 05-25-2014 03:05 AM

Hey guys, I know the S4 have a lower tread life than the SS but what is the expectancy for these tires when use for rear? How much more does the SS last compare to the S4?

JARblue 05-25-2014 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2832780)
How much more does the SS last compare to the S4?

That is going to depend entirely on how you drive...

Some people get <10K on the stock tires; some people get >20K on the stock tires. It just depends on the driver.

MacCool 05-25-2014 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cautupwitdm (Post 2831021)
I would disagree with the PSS being marginally better over the S-04's. I'd say the 30% difference in price is closer to the difference in performance than you think. If you are basing your numbers from that graph, notice how many more miles (more data) the PSS' s have compared to the S-04's. There us a reason more people are uding them. But hey, if it's not within your budget or drive style then I guess that makes sense. S-04's will do the job.

Sent from my Note 3

Yeah, tread life could make it an issue...it's possible that could offset the price difference but I gotta believe that driving habits would play a role in that. If you're not pushing the tires hard, I'm not sure that the tread life difference is there. I do believe that given my driving needs in daily driving and my driving skill, the performance difference is likely to be minimized and not worth the cost difference. I'm guessing. Maybe I'd be enjoying the PSS more, but in 1100 miles with the S-04s, I can't say I've felt a difference in handling compared to the 15,000 miles I spent with the OEM RE050As.

cv129 05-25-2014 06:54 AM

Objectively speaking, PSS does NOT outperform S04 by 30 percent. PSS will not out grip nor out brake S04 by a 30 percent margin, not even close.

PSS is clearly not what OP asked for in his original post.

Conti DW fits best if noise is a requirement. S04 is a great chiice for the current sale price, but I worry how loud s04 may get when it's worn down...don't the Bridgestones summer tires get pretty noisy when they are worn?

kenchan 05-25-2014 07:18 AM

The only thing stopping me on the pss is sidewall design (appearance). Its got a roundish design similar to the DW which I don't care for. Price is not my issue on the pss.

I like how light they are vs s04. But going by weight, DW is lighter.

Rwjohn6 05-26-2014 06:34 AM

Thanks for the recommendations here. I just had blowout on oem Yokahamas with only 7200 miles it is an 09. I will go with the S-04

quickboat 05-26-2014 08:01 AM

Can the 285/35's be used on the back if someone buy's the PSS's?

kenchan 05-26-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rwjohn6 (Post 2834044)
Thanks for the recommendations here. I just had blowout on oem Yokahamas with only 7200 miles it is an 09. I will go with the S-04

yah, my advans have like 6k miles on them and like 3/32 left. lol
make sure you go with 285/35/19 on the S04's. the 275/35/19's are narrow for some reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickboat (Post 2834078)
Can the 285/35's be used on the back if someone buy's the PSS's?

sure, 285/35/19 is fine on both the sport 19's and nismo 19's.

P's_Z 05-26-2014 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2820284)
yah, for some reason the S04 in 275/35/19 size is very narrow compared to normal 275's like the RE050A's.
(maybe for the vip sedan crowd? :confused:)

so i recommend anyone getting the S04's to get the nismo size rear which is 285/35/19. they look real nice, grip nice, and just an overall very good tire. :tup:

Does this also apply for the front tires? Im also thinking of going with the S04s, should i go wider up front or is it just a matter of taste? I have the 19" SP RAYS... Oh, and sorry for the thread jack :ughdance:

P's_Z 05-29-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P's_Z (Post 2834886)
Does this also apply for the front tires? Im also thinking of going with the S04s, should i go wider up front or is it just a matter of taste? I have the 19" SP RAYS... Oh, and sorry for the thread jack :ughdance:

:hello:

Can anyone help me with my question?

:tiphat:

Hotrodz 05-29-2014 09:22 PM

265 up front will work. I have them on my Nismo!

XPNSD IT 05-29-2014 10:07 PM

I would recommend the 265s up front as well, reduced under steer (from lowering) feels very responsive, that and I'm on new tires. Haha

P's_Z 05-29-2014 10:16 PM

Thank you hotrodz and xpnsd-it!

I didnt know 265 would be an option, i was thinking more of 255's(only going 1 size up). Ill check this size out then.

FYI, dont know if it matters, but im not lowered and dont plan to lower my Z, just in case.

Also, does anyone have any pics of a sport package Z with 265 tires up front and 285 on the rears? Even better if its not lowered :rolleyes:

:tiphat:

P's_Z 05-29-2014 10:55 PM

Sorry for my laziness guys :shakes head: searched and found a few pics, but noticed that the tire size is 265/35. Not sure how i feel about the height of the 35s vs 40. Here in PR, the roads are pretty messed up, not sure if 265/35 is enough tire up front :eekdance: plus, im not planning on lowering my Z, so not sure how this size would look

What do you guys think? Am i better off going with 255/40 front and 285/35's in the rear?

NORAIN 05-30-2014 04:39 AM

The 265/35 is the same height as the stock 245/40, 26.3". If you're not lowering, the 255 might fill the fender better, it's taller.
There are pics in my profile of mine with 265/35 on the front. I am lowered and have 305/30's on the back though.

P's_Z 05-30-2014 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORAIN (Post 2839711)
The 265/35 is the same height as the stock 245/40, 26.3". If you're not lowering, the 255 might fill the fender better, it's taller.
There are pics in my profile of mine with 265/35 on the front. I am lowered and have 305/30's on the back though.

Thanks! Saw your pics, looking good! Ill have to do some more research and see what my best option is. Looking at some pics of the 255/40 tire, they seem too meaty for my taste :shakes head: not sure if it was the angle of the pic, the aftermarket wheel or the type of tire(hankook v12). In the end if i cant decide, ill just go with the OEM size.

I assume there would be no issue with staying OEM 245/40 up front and 285/35 in the back right?

Hotrodz 05-30-2014 07:29 AM

Those are stock sizes for the Nismo....

Rwjohn6 05-30-2014 10:39 AM

Ok got my S-04s and notice traction difference. With Yokahamas traction light only went on when hitting it around corner. With these just hitting in straight line the light went on.

NORAIN 05-30-2014 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rwjohn6 (Post 2840174)
Ok got my S-04s and notice traction difference. With Yokahamas traction light only went on when hitting it around corner. With these just hitting in straight line the light went on.

I'm noticing a similar thing when in 2nd gear cornering and giving a little gas. I'm thinking in my case it's the softer side wall and having over sized 305's. It's a lot softer feeling in the back. The side wall rolls over slightly in the first part of a turn, then the grip is pretty good. I've pumped up the tire pressure a bit and it helps.
What are your toe settings and what sizes are you running? Mine did the same as yours in a straight line when my toe was whacked. It took me several trips and 2 different alignment shops to get my toe in order. I have zero front and total of a 1/16" toe in out back...
I feel like the S-04 in a 305, might be to much tire for the 10" Sport Rays. A stiffer side wall tire might have been the better choice for me, is what I've decided.

NORAIN 05-30-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P's_Z (Post 2839843)
Thanks! Saw your pics, looking good! Ill have to do some more research and see what my best option is. Looking at some pics of the 255/40 tire, they seem too meaty for my taste :shakes head: not sure if it was the angle of the pic, the aftermarket wheel or the type of tire(hankook v12). In the end if i cant decide, ill just go with the OEM size.

I assume there would be no issue with staying OEM 245/40 up front and 285/35 in the back right?

The 285 will fit no issues. The 245 is .2" shorter and the 255 is .2" taller than a 285 I think. Probably not noticeable either way, as far as side wall look front to back.
If your not lowering, how bout spacers? The car looks so much better with spacers?

kenchan 05-30-2014 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORAIN (Post 2839711)
The 265/35 is the same height as the stock 245/40, 26.3". If you're not lowering, the 255 might fill the fender better, it's taller.
There are pics in my profile of mine with 265/35 on the front. I am lowered and have 305/30's on the back though.


265/35 is 92.75mm sidewall and total diameter 233.76mm
245/40 is 98.00mm sidewall and total diameter 244.26mm

P's_Z 05-30-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2839900)
Those are stock sizes for the Nismo....

Doh! Sorry 'bout that :shakes head:

P's_Z 05-30-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORAIN (Post 2840735)
If your not lowering, how bout spacers? The car looks so much better with spacers?

Even though i love the look of a Z with spacers, im a bit concern with the effect on how the car will perform with them(from the little ive read). Not saying ill never do it, but definitely not planning on doing it right now, as i havent done much research either.


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