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twinturbonet 02-12-2014 01:59 PM

Offset question
 
So I went through a lot of the pages in the offset section and didn't really find many people on 19x9.5 +12 and 19x11 +15. I wanted to see a picture of this setup, because one of the guys at Varrstoen told me that is the best setup for my Z34 Nismo. :ughdance:

I want an slightly aggressive stance, but don't want my wheels sticking too far out the fenders. I'm on BC Racing coils and the tire sizes are 275 (F) and 305 (R). No spacers.

Any suggestions? Maybe pictures of this setup or another offset with x11 width would be great! :tiphat:

I would want it to look like this, with a 19x11 not 10.5 like has it... so I'm looking for correct offsets for what I want.

http://varrstoen.com/wp-content/uplo...4668823485.jpg

Thanks all.

cooltoy 02-12-2014 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbonet (Post 2690419)
because one of the guys at Varrstoen told me that is the best setup for my Z34 Nismo.

That was your first mistake.

kenchan 02-12-2014 02:12 PM

that's 2 mistakes he made actually. :icon17:

cooltoy 02-12-2014 02:15 PM

The fronts will poke probably 20mm the rears will poke just a touch. This is describing the location of the wheel lip edge and on stock height. When lowered both will tuck in more.

Your tire choice will also determine how far the overall wheel/tire combination will stick out.

twinturbonet 02-12-2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2690455)
The fronts will poke probably 20mm the rears will poke just a touch. This is describing the location of the wheel lip edge and on stock height. When lowered both will tuck in more.

Your tire choice will also determine how far the overall wheel/tire combination will stick out.

With the +12/+15 setup?

fairlady_z34 02-12-2014 02:59 PM

The front wont poke out 20mm. i have 9.5 +0 in the fronts and pokes about 15mm with correct camber. your rears will be perfect in my opinion. my rears are 10.5 +0 and barely poke but i love the aggresive/flush look on it.

twinturbonet 02-12-2014 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairlady_z34 (Post 2690552)
The front wont poke out 20mm. i have 9.5 +0 in the fronts and pokes about 15mm with correct camber. your rears will be perfect in my opinion. my rears are 10.5 +0 and barely poke but i love the aggresive/flush look on it.

Post a pic? will +0's fit my Nismo brakes?

fairlady_z34 02-12-2014 03:06 PM

Will post pics in a few hours when i get home from work. will be old pics only though before i went negative camber in the front. rears still have stock oem camber setting

cooltoy 02-12-2014 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbonet (Post 2690492)
With the +12/+15 setup?

Yes.

twinturbonet 02-12-2014 03:54 PM

Now that I look at it, they don't have many options for offset anyway. Here is what they have...

ES2 19X9.5 - 0
ES2 19X9.5 - 12
ES2 19X9.5 - 22
ES2 19X9.5 - 30
ES2 19x10 - 15
ES2 19x10 - 25
ES2 19X10.5 - 12
ES2 19X10.5 - 22
ES2 19X10.5 - 30
ES2 19x11 - 0
ES2 19x11 -15
ES2 19x11 -25

kenchan 02-12-2014 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbonet (Post 2690628)
Now that I look at it, they don't have many options for offset anyway. Here is what they have...

ES2 19X9.5 - 0
ES2 19X9.5 - 12
ES2 19X9.5 - 22
ES2 19X9.5 - 30
ES2 19x10 - 15
ES2 19x10 - 25
ES2 19X10.5 - 12
ES2 19X10.5 - 22
ES2 19X10.5 - 30
ES2 19x11 - 0
ES2 19x11 -15
ES2 19x11 -25


im assuming these are positive offsets... :ugh:

cooltoy 02-12-2014 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbonet (Post 2690628)
Now that I look at it, they don't have many options for offset anyway. Here is what they have...

ES2 19X9.5 - 0
ES2 19X9.5 - 12
ES2 19X9.5 - 22
ES2 19X9.5 - 30
ES2 19x10 - 15
ES2 19x10 - 25
ES2 19X10.5 - 12
ES2 19X10.5 - 22
ES2 19X10.5 - 30
ES2 19x11 - 0
ES2 19x11 -15
ES2 19x11 -25

I hope you do not mind, but I'll teach you how to fish.

Use this calculator. Put the OEM set up on the left and desired set up on the right. It will show you how much different offsets wil stick out. You can also play with different tire width.

Custom rims, wheel tire packages for your ride - RIMSnTIRES.com

OMGWTFBBQ 02-12-2014 08:33 PM

If you're lowered, running OEM alignment settings, and running 275/35 front & 305/30 rear tires, I would recommend 19x9.5 +22, 19x10.5 +12.

Front will be pretty aggressive and you might need to roll your fenders. Rear should sit pretty nicely.

m3chhawk 02-12-2014 09:04 PM

Out of curiosity, why the hate for Varrstoen? I've never actually seen a set in person, but is it a build quality problem or just typical clone wheel stigma?

OMGWTFBBQ 02-12-2014 09:14 PM

Taken from the G37 forum:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...9rsfn/fail.jpg

----> Wheel specs..Varrstoen ES 2.2.2 in 19x9.5 and 19x10.5
----> Hit a pothole at 40-45 mph
----> Lugs held-on
----> Coilovers held-on
----> SPC camber kit held-on
----> Only thing that didnt, is the Varrstoen...
----> Entire Barrel came off!

Taken from the M3 forum:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...d/IMG_6813.jpg

Varrstoen with "BBS" center caps. Most legit BBS faces have engravings in them.

Then again it depends on the abuse you put your wheels through. Given enough abuse, even one piece forged wheels will break. Although one piece forged wheels will most likely bend instead of break/shatter like Varrstoens. Not to sound like an elitist or anything, but wheels are the one thing I wouldn't cheap out on. That and tires because those are literally the two things that keep my car on the road. My opinion so take it with a grain or salt. No offense to anyone intended.

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KaienZ34 02-12-2014 09:29 PM

Yeah I've read they have very poor QC over at varrstoen.

cooltoy 02-13-2014 10:23 AM

If it were me, I would not sell the Nismo wheels and replace them with Varrstoen.

kenchan 02-13-2014 01:21 PM

yah, why would one sell the nismo wheels anyway? they're great.

i sound like tony the tiger. :ugh:

fuct 02-13-2014 01:46 PM

boy id be pissed if i was BBS and saw that pic floating around the internet.

BBS wheels are the shiet!

kenchan 02-13-2014 02:01 PM

yah, but people that know wheels know real wheels dont shatter like that. :D

OMGWTFBBQ 02-13-2014 02:21 PM

BBS LMs are also two piece unlike the one piece Varrstoen replica lol. The bolts/hardware on the BBS LM actually do something (hold the pieces together) unlike the fake bolts found on the Varrstoens.

fairlady_z34 02-14-2014 03:23 PM

here are the pics. the front wheels are slightly turned but hopefully you get the idea. right now front has negative 2.0 camber i think lol. and rears are left to oem specs. in my opinion i think with oem camber the rears are aggressive looking to me thats why i set it to stock oem camber setting. these are varrstoen and havent have any issues with it
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...pse13fac40.jpg


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psbfa7fa06.jpg


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ps051d2745.jpg

twinturbonet 02-18-2014 03:14 PM

Thanks for the replies.

I know quite a few people who have Varr's and don't have these issues that a few people have had. The only complaint I hear VS real deal wheels is the weight. If it's my luck that my wheel breaks, then it's my luck. *knock on wood*.

I want a different style of wheel and I'm in no hurry to sell my Nismo stocks. I've also have had my share of expensive wheels and just don't want to spend that much on my wheels anymore. This is my 4th Z.

Thanks for this link... Custom rims, wheel tire packages for your ride - RIMSnTIRES.com

Yes, all the offsets I gave were positive.

kenchan 02-18-2014 03:52 PM

yah, definitely think before you make the change. the nismo wheels are very good.

a6walter1 02-19-2014 10:27 AM

I have the ES2.2.2 in 19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5+12 and I needed an 8mm spacer to clear the stock sport brakes. So, with the 8mm spacer, that brings my offset down to +14 and it looks very nice. If I could do it again, I would go with the +12 in the front and the 11" +15 in the rear. I think your first thoughts were spot on. If you want to see pics of the wheels and the offsets, look at my Journal (link in sig).

kenchan 02-19-2014 11:09 AM

we look like first graders doing + and - calculations in math class. :icon17:

OMGWTFBBQ 02-19-2014 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a6walter1 (Post 2699376)
I have the ES2.2.2 in 19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5+12 and I needed an 8mm spacer to clear the stock sport brakes. So, with the 8mm spacer, that brings my offset down to +14 and it looks very nice. If I could do it again, I would go with the +12 in the front and the 11" +15 in the rear. I think your first thoughts were spot on. If you want to see pics of the wheels and the offsets, look at my Journal (link in sig).

Direct link to the post with pictures in his build thread (for the lazy people lol): http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ml#post2541546

Nice pictures buddy! Any plans for lowering the car?

a6walter1 02-19-2014 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ (Post 2699878)
Direct link to the post with pictures in his build thread (for the lazy people lol): http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ml#post2541546

Nice pictures buddy! Any plans for lowering the car?

Thanks! Yeah, I want to either do Swifts or H&Rs this spring once I take it out of storage.


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