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jooonnn 01-30-2014 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vancouverite (Post 2671998)
Did you end up with 285? I'm currently running s04 265/35/19 on 19x10.5 and lowered on swift. Since it's a little stretched for my liking, I'm thinking to go for either 275 or 285. How was 285? no issue with rubbing or inner clearance?

BTW, are you Korean?


I am actually filipino, but i actually get korean a lot haha. What made you guess korean?

Im going to pick up a set of 285/35/19 once it warms up in the next couple weeks. What is your wheel offset and sizing/setup right now? Are you running 19x10.5 in the front right now?


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vancouverite 01-30-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2672035)
I am actually filipino, but i actually get korean a lot haha. What made you guess korean?

Im going to pick up a set of 285/35/19 once it warms up in the next couple weeks. What is your wheel offset and sizing/setup right now? Are you running 19x10.5 in the front right now?


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Oh, didn't know filipinos use that name too. Joon is one of the most common Korean first name so I thought you were Korean. I'm korean and I'm Jun actually.
I'm running 265/35/19 on 19x10.5+30 in the front and 295/30/19 on 19x10.5+20 in the rear now. I might go for 275 since 275 doesn't look that bad. It seems like s04 has smaller tread width than other brands. I think it gives more stretched look but more clearance, but I could be wrong.

jooonnn 01-30-2014 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vancouverite (Post 2672281)
Oh, didn't know filipinos use that name too. Joon is one of the most common Korean first name so I thought you were Korean. I'm korean and I'm Jun actually.

I'm running 265/35/19 on 19x10.5+30 in the front and 295/30/19 on 19x10.5+20 in the rear now. I might go for 275 since 275 doesn't look that bad. It seems like s04 has smaller tread width than other brands. I think it gives more stretched look but more clearance, but I could be wrong.


Haha yeah my name is actually jon but ive been called joon a lot. I do agree the s04s run a tad skinnier in tread width compared to the meatier cousins like the re11 and pss. I dont think a 275/35 would have any rubbing, as ive been told by a good amount of people running them they are just fine, and im gonna guess the 285 will be pretty similar as well since a bunch of track guys run 285/35/18 square. Since you have 10.5 square why dont you just run square? Im sure some camber arms would be able to dial in any rubbing you have.

Do you have any pics of your setup? What wheels are you running?


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vancouverite 01-30-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2673086)
Haha yeah my name is actually jon but ive been called joon a lot. I do agree the s04s run a tad skinnier in tread width compared to the meatier cousins like the re11 and pss. I dont think a 275/35 would have any rubbing, as ive been told by a good amount of people running them they are just fine, and im gonna guess the 285 will be pretty similar as well since a bunch of track guys run 285/35/18 square. Since you have 10.5 square why dont you just run square? Im sure some camber arms would be able to dial in any rubbing you have.

Do you have any pics of your setup? What wheels are you running?


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I would've got 275 or 285 square if I had bought wheels before I bought my rear tires. If I lived in U.S I would just ship it and sell it to one of forum members , but the market here isn't as big as U.S. My previous wheel setup was 19x9.5, 19x11 so what I'm thinking now is either replace rear when it wears out, or sell previous wheels with tires to local and get new tires. I'm running volk g2 right now. What are you running? I will post pics sometime next week when my spacers arrive.

Waiz 01-31-2014 06:29 PM

Amazing what some people think is "stretching" in this thread, shocking in fact

jooonnn 02-02-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vancouverite (Post 2673155)
I would've got 275 or 285 square if I had bought wheels before I bought my rear tires. If I lived in U.S I would just ship it and sell it to one of forum members , but the market here isn't as big as U.S. My previous wheel setup was 19x9.5, 19x11 so what I'm thinking now is either replace rear when it wears out, or sell previous wheels with tires to local and get new tires. I'm running volk g2 right now. What are you running? I will post pics sometime next week when my spacers arrive.


Im excited to see pics as well! What tire brand did you go with? Did you have any issues with the +30 10.5" in the front with the swifts? I actually have a set of volk g2's as well in 10.5" +30 all around waiting to be mounted when it gets warmer. Im thinking a 20mm spacer for the rear so i can be at +10 overall. what size spacer do you plan to get the the rear (your rear is 10.5+20 right?)?


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vancouverite 02-03-2014 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2676134)
Im excited to see pics as well! What tire brand did you go with? Did you have any issues with the +30 10.5" in the front with the swifts? I actually have a set of volk g2's as well in 10.5" +30 all around waiting to be mounted when it gets warmer. Im thinking a 20mm spacer for the rear so i can be at +10 overall. what size spacer do you plan to get the the rear (your rear is 10.5+20 right?)?


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I ended up with s04 pole position. No rub so far with 265 since it's quite stretched. I think it might rub with 275 or 285 without camber adjustment. I ordered 10mm spacers for the rear so it would be 10.5+10. Spacers hasn't arrived yet :shakes head: will post before and after pics at the end of this week.

vancouverite 02-08-2014 03:28 PM

Before:
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75899-a.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75900-a.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75901-a.jpg

vancouverite 02-08-2014 03:29 PM

After 10mm spacers:
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75909-a.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75908-a.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75907-a.jpg

jooonnn 02-09-2014 08:00 AM

Love the pics!!!! Just to recap this, you are running a 285 rear currently? Also since you are running a 265 in front, do you have any close up side profile pics to see how close it is to rubbing fenders? Also is there any risk of a 285 tire touching inner suspension arms? Man those wheels look great on the car! Did you get them from ravspec by any chance?


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vancouverite 02-10-2014 06:41 PM

Front:
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75963-a.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75964-a.jpg

Rear:
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75965-a.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/vanco...ure75966-a.jpg

vancouverite 02-10-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2685411)
Love the pics!!!! Just to recap this, you are running a 285 rear currently? Also since you are running a 265 in front, do you have any close up side profile pics to see how close it is to rubbing fenders? Also is there any risk of a 285 tire touching inner suspension arms? Man those wheels look great on the car! Did you get them from ravspec by any chance?


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Thanks man.I'm running 295 in the rear actually. I think you could even fit 305 easily without any problem. As for 265 in the front, it doesn't rub even at full lock. I'd more worry about front than rear. It might rub inner suspension at full lock if you go wider than 265.
Yes, I got these from ravspec. I couldn't pass up the deal :yum: Did you get these from ravspec too? in flat black?

jooonnn 02-10-2014 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vancouverite (Post 2687486)
Thanks man.I'm running 295 in the rear actually. I think you could even fit 305 easily without any problem. As for 265 in the front, it doesn't rub even at full lock. I'd more worry about front than rear. It might rub inner suspension at full lock if you go wider than 265.

Yes, I got these from ravspec. I couldn't pass up the deal :yum: Did you get these from ravspec too? in flat black?


The 265 doesnt look that bad! Just slightly off from matching the rear 295.

Yup picked up the flat black (although it was not as sweet of a deal as the gunmetals!). I believe you can fit a 325 in the rear without too much hassle if you really wanted to. As for the front, i "think" i want to try the 285/35/19 for front AND rear on re11s. Im currently on nismo suspension but might add some spl front camber arms to add a little more camber. I also dont mind rolling a little if i have to. Which part of the inner suspension do you think would rub at full lock?

Do you think 10mm spacer was the way to go? Im sure you have a much better feel seeing it in real life. Im trying to pick either a +15 or +10 offset to match the fronts.

How do you like the s04s? Do you have any comparisons to other tires?

Again, super thanks for giving me all this awesome info.


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vancouverite 02-11-2014 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2687526)
The 265 doesnt look that bad! Just slightly off from matching the rear 295.

Yup picked up the flat black (although it was not as sweet of a deal as the gunmetals!). I believe you can fit a 325 in the rear without too much hassle if you really wanted to. As for the front, i "think" i want to try the 285/35/19 for front AND rear on re11s. Im currently on nismo suspension but might add some spl front camber arms to add a little more camber. I also dont mind rolling a little if i have to. Which part of the inner suspension do you think would rub at full lock?

Do you think 10mm spacer was the way to go? Im sure you have a much better feel seeing it in real life. Im trying to pick either a +15 or +10 offset to match the fronts.

How do you like the s04s? Do you have any comparisons to other tires?

Again, super thanks for giving me all this awesome info.


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No worries man. I'm not an expert on this so I can't say exactly which part it's going to rub, but 10.5 will give you less inner clearance than stock for obvious reason. The shop where I go, tirerack, ravspec also told me that they wouldn't recommend going wider than 265. This is what tirerack told me "The 265/35R19 has a rim width range of 9 to 10.5 inches in width so it is a good fit on your 10.5 inch wide wheel. That is wider than we recommend running on the front so I would not be able to recommend going even wider." I think they probably worry about rubbing inner wheel well or fender. I just calculated inner clearance using offset calculator and it showed me only 2mm less clearance than stock. Even if you fit 285, I don't think it would rub strut but only inner well or fender because of the tire height.

If you want it to be super flush, I would say go for 25mm(+5 offset). Mine looks ok but it would've been much better if I had put 15mm.

Vancouver rains a lot so I wanted to get something that gives me a better grip when wet and good enough performance when dry. This tire really fits my criteria. And it's cheap! If you don't track your car, I don't see any point of paying extra money for re11 honestly.

jooonnn 02-11-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vancouverite (Post 2687800)
No worries man. I'm not an expert on this so I can't say exactly which part it's going to rub, but 10.5 will give you less inner clearance than stock for obvious reason. The shop where I go, tirerack, ravspec also told me that they wouldn't recommend going wider than 265. This is what tirerack told me "The 265/35R19 has a rim width range of 9 to 10.5 inches in width so it is a good fit on your 10.5 inch wide wheel. That is wider than we recommend running on the front so I would not be able to recommend going even wider." I think they probably worry about rubbing inner wheel well or fender. I just calculated inner clearance using offset calculator and it showed me only 2mm less clearance than stock. Even if you fit 285, I don't think it would rub strut but only inner well or fender because of the tire height.

If you want it to be super flush, I would say go for 25mm(+5 offset). Mine looks ok but it would've been much better if I had put 15mm.

Vancouver rains a lot so I wanted to get something that gives me a better grip when wet and good enough performance when dry. This tire really fits my criteria. And it's cheap! If you don't track your car, I don't see any point of paying extra money for re11 honestly.

Ah, all great info! I know a few guys run the 285/35/18 on 10.5+30 without any issues. I also have met a few guys that run 285/35/19 on the Stock Nismo front 9.5"+40 wheel as well, but i'm sure itll be cutting it close no matter what. I’m just hoping if issues come up it will be at least “able to be alleviated” for a lack of better words lol. I am not sure if being lowered affects your likely-ness to rub fenders. My main goal of the +30 square on 285s would be the ability to rotate (if I needed to).

As for the S04s and RE11’s, I’ve never tried the S04’s but I have tried the RE11s and loved them. They aren’t terribly too far in price difference either, but I also wouldn’t mind saving the cash. I do autocross from time to time, so I’m wondering if the RE11 will be noticeable on just an autocross basis.

So you’re saying a +5 overall offset in rear would match the +30 up front better than your current +10? Did you go with the Stud Replacements or the Bolt ons? I should be ordering tires this week or next so the moment of truce is coming soon!

vancouverite 02-11-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2688177)
Ah, all great info! I know a few guys run the 285/35/18 on 10.5+30 without any issues. I also have met a few guys that run 285/35/19 on the Stock Nismo front 9.5"+40 wheel as well, but i'm sure itll be cutting it close no matter what. I’m just hoping if issues come up it will be at least “able to be alleviated” for a lack of better words lol. I am not sure if being lowered affects your likely-ness to rub fenders. My main goal of the +30 square on 285s would be the ability to rotate (if I needed to).

As for the S04s and RE11’s, I’ve never tried the S04’s but I have tried the RE11s and loved them. They aren’t terribly too far in price difference either, but I also wouldn’t mind saving the cash. I do autocross from time to time, so I’m wondering if the RE11 will be noticeable on just an autocross basis.

So you’re saying a +5 overall offset in rear would match the +30 up front better than your current +10? Did you go with the Stud Replacements or the Bolt ons? I should be ordering tires this week or next so the moment of truce is coming soon!

Yea one of the main reasons of getting square is to rotate tires. I would've got 275 all around if I hadn't bought my rear tires first :shakes head:. Let me know how 285 fits when you fit it. I'm gonna go for 275 all around if I get new tires anytime later.
Since you do autocross, re11 would be well worth the money. Everytime I modify my car, I always realize this phrase "you get what you pay for"
+5 offset should be a good fit. I went with the stud replacement for safety reasons. 25mm would be quite thick when you see it in person. I highly recommend getting stud replacement type. I hope everything works out for you!

jooonnn 02-11-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vancouverite (Post 2688904)
Yea one of the main reasons of getting square is to rotate tires. I would've got 275 all around if I hadn't bought my rear tires first :shakes head:. Let me know how 285 fits when you fit it. I'm gonna go for 275 all around if I get new tires anytime later.

Since you do autocross, re11 would be well worth the money. Everytime I modify my car, I always realize this phrase "you get what you pay for"

+5 offset should be a good fit. I went with the stud replacement for safety reasons. 25mm would be quite thick when you see it in person. I highly recommend getting stud replacement type. I hope everything works out for you!


For sure, i think im gonna give the bolt ons a whirl for the first go around since ive had great experiences with them in the past. Once i figure out my exact spacer sizing ill go with arp studs and some regular spacers.

If you have any access to tirebuyer.com from canada or a friend in the USA i might be able to get u good deal on tires! Just give me a pm if you are interested!


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vancouverite 02-12-2014 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jooonnn (Post 2689352)
For sure, i think im gonna give the bolt ons a whirl for the first go around since ive had great experiences with them in the past. Once i figure out my exact spacer sizing ill go with arp studs and some regular spacers.

If you have any access to tirebuyer.com from canada or a friend in the USA i might be able to get u good deal on tires! Just give me a pm if you are interested!


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Yea bolt ons should be fine too if you use it temporarily.
Sounds great! I will pm you when I need some tires later. Thanks man :icon17:


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