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Threev8s 07-17-2013 08:22 PM

Patch or Replace?
 
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Is this too close to the sidewall to patch? The guy at the local tire place said it was borderline and was afraid to do the repair since I made it very clear that the wheel is flawless and wanted it to remain that way. I wasn't sure if I should take it someplace else or just order another one. Also, this is a Bridgestone Potenza RE970AS Pole Position with around 4K miles. Thank you in advance for the feedback.

10MPlayer 07-17-2013 08:26 PM

I guess it depends on how you drive it. Daily driver? Plug and patch. If you're racing or greatly exceeding the speed limit, replace it. It'd be hell if it blew out while you're doing 150 mph. You'd roll right on into the next life.

DEpointfive0 07-17-2013 08:33 PM

Patch it... Him saying he's afraid is his way of wanting you to sell a new tire

Trips 07-17-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2408375)
Patch it... Him saying he's afraid is his way of wanting you to sell a new tire

I agree!

Patch it, And keep using it with No Problems :driving:

2010ZilverZ 07-17-2013 08:45 PM

I agree ... patch it


Last week I had a nail removed from my left rear and they patched it and it's doin' fine :tup:

fairladyZ34 07-17-2013 09:16 PM

thats far enough in to patch

/Angelo350Z/ 07-17-2013 09:17 PM

Patch it. Not close enough to the sidewall to be a concern.

Threev8s 07-17-2013 10:58 PM

I'm definitely going to try to get this patched...hopefully there are no hidden surprises when they separate it from the rim. Thank you for all of the feedback!

DEpointfive0 07-17-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Threev8s (Post 2408532)
I'm definitely going to try to get this patched...hopefully there are no hidden surprises when they separate it from the rim. Thank you for all of the feedback!

Go somewhere that says its ok.

When they take it off, if they say its ok, say perfect.
OR, say, please tell me if its not patchable BEFORE you do anything.


I say this because I said that to the pricks at American Tire Co, they said it was patchable THEN took the screw out THEN said, "yeahhhhhh, the screw went in sideways and we can't patch it" (BS at its best) then I said, "ok, put it back on, I'll take it somewhere else"
"Sorry sir... We took the screw out and can't patch it... You need a new tire"
"Good, better be a free tire, because I don't have the money, you said you could patch it and I TOLD you not to mess with it if you couldn't patch it"
"Well our manager can give you a good deal on a new or used tire"
"Yeah, free, I didn't tell you to take the screw out, you're putting a tire on for free"

3 min later, my tire was patched, I told the other guy who patched it if it was a legit and clean patch, he said it was easy and 100% fine... I tipped him $10 and the tire did well until the car took a swim.

jcosta79 07-17-2013 11:30 PM

Tell him you have a tire warranty and that the replacement will be free.

You will see how quickly the location of the nail is no longer an issue.

DEpointfive0 07-18-2013 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2408575)
Tell him you have a tire warranty and that the replacement will be free.

You will see how quickly the location of the nail is no longer an issue.

LOL!!!

Will be using that soon

Threev8s 07-18-2013 09:12 AM

Tire Repair Shop
 
This is a longshot, but does anyone have any recommendations for a tire repair shop in the King of Prussia/Wayne, PA area or Lansdale, PA area? I am looking for a place that can do it without scratching or gouging the wheel, which seems to be a rarity.

coolvans1988 07-18-2013 01:54 PM

patching would be fine, i removed a good 3 inch sharp metal shard from my rear tire and around the same area. No problems at all, luckily i didn't have to throw a good $200 to waste .

ajc1884 07-18-2013 02:02 PM

patch it.

had a nail in my rear this winter. Sears patched it. No problems since !!!

chrischhorn 07-18-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2408541)
Go somewhere that says its ok.

When they take it off, if they say its ok, say perfect.
OR, say, please tell me if its not patchable BEFORE you do anything.


I say this because I said that to the pricks at American Tire Co, they said it was patchable THEN took the screw out THEN said, "yeahhhhhh, the screw went in sideways and we can't patch it" (BS at its best) then I said, "ok, put it back on, I'll take it somewhere else"
"Sorry sir... We took the screw out and can't patch it... You need a new tire"
"Good, better be a free tire, because I don't have the money, you said you could patch it and I TOLD you not to mess with it if you couldn't patch it"
"Well our manager can give you a good deal on a new or used tire"
"Yeah, free, I didn't tell you to take the screw out, you're putting a tire on for free"

3 min later, my tire was patched, I told the other guy who patched it if it was a legit and clean patch, he said it was easy and 100% fine... I tipped him $10 and the tire did well until the car took a swim.

Well now Andrew, there are situations that this becomes an issue. If the tire is dismounted from the wheel it should be easy to tell if the tire is repairable or not. If they pulled the nail out before they dismounted the tire then they are idiots. Generally if the nail goes in at higher then a 45 degree angle and which direction its facing (towards the sidewall or up and down the tread) depends too. Reason for concern at that point is that when you drill out and clean the hole, you will be drilling through MULTIPLE belts of course weakening the tire more then your average flat repair. Course, I work for Costco where we are extremely picky and secure :roflpuke2:

But enough yapping. I'd plug that tire OP.

Brutal 370Z 07-18-2013 02:46 PM

Easy patch job. I had one in the same spot. Cost me $20.

kenchan 07-18-2013 03:08 PM

discounttires (america's tires) should have non-touch mounters. check to see one in your area. and have them patch it.

it's a big pin or watever you got in there, but ive had a 1/4" diameter container lock pin stuck in a tire on my previous car. no issue with patching.

DEpointfive0 07-18-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2409467)
Well now Andrew, there are situations that this becomes an issue. If the tire is dismounted from the wheel it should be easy to tell if the tire is repairable or not. If they pulled the nail out before they dismounted the tire then they are idiots. Generally if the nail goes in at higher then a 45 degree angle and which direction its facing (towards the sidewall or up and down the tread) depends too. Reason for concern at that point is that when you drill out and clean the hole, you will be drilling through MULTIPLE belts of course weakening the tire more then your average flat repair. Course, I work for Costco where we are extremely picky and secure :roflpuke2:

But enough yapping. I'd plug that tire OP.

:icon18:
They unmounted the tire and showed me first and said it was patchable, and then they said it wasn't once they took it out.

I KNEW the were BS-ing me, and I called their bluff, lol


If I went to Costco, I KNOW they wouldn't have done anything shady like that. Upfront and honest, as expected

zfamous 07-18-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Threev8s (Post 2408910)
This is a longshot, but does anyone have any recommendations for a tire repair shop in the King of Prussia/Wayne, PA area or Lansdale, PA area? I am looking for a place that can do it without scratching or gouging the wheel, which seems to be a rarity.

Try Yelp. That way, if you were to head to an unknown shop at least you'd have some reviews/opinions to go off of.

Threev8s 07-19-2013 04:28 PM

It turns out that it can't be patched. I ended up ordering the tire through the Nissan dealership who is matching the Tire Rack's price shipped and should do a good job mounting and balancing it. It sucks, but at least I won't have to worry about it.

DEpointfive0 07-19-2013 04:31 PM

You live in Ventnor? WOW!!!

chrischhorn 07-20-2013 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Threev8s (Post 2411042)
It turns out that it can't be patched. I ended up ordering the tire through the Nissan dealership who is matching the Tire Rack's price shipped and should do a good job mounting and balancing it. It sucks, but at least I won't have to worry about it.

Shouldve went to Costco and ordered it..... Costco Road Hazard Warranty for the win.

Threev8s 07-20-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2411044)
You live in Ventnor? WOW!!!

Live in Wayne, in Ventnor on weekends from April through November. "Wow" because you used to live there or b/c you saw it on Monopoly?

Threev8s 07-20-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2411550)
Shouldve went to Costco and ordered it..... Costco Road Hazard Warranty for the win.

Costco was significantly more $ and didn't seem very confident about mounting the tire w/o messing up the wheel.

DEpointfive0 07-20-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Threev8s (Post 2411665)
Live in Wayne, in Ventnor on weekends from April through November. "Wow" because you used to live there or b/c you saw it on Monopoly?

LOL!!! Yeah, my favorite board game by a MILE, other than that... Not a DAMN clue where it is, lol

:tiphat:

chrischhorn 07-20-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Threev8s (Post 2411666)
Costco was significantly more $ and didn't seem very confident about mounting the tire w/o messing up the wheel.

Mounting the tire I could understand I guess.....Tire price well...... Tire Rack has a special right now on them for $179 + $57 shipping. Costco A $206 with no shipping cost....I guess its cheaper if you say so...:ugh2:

Threev8s 07-21-2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2411970)
Mounting the tire I could understand I guess.....Tire price well...... Tire Rack has a special right now on them for $179 + $57 shipping. Costco A $206 with no shipping cost....I guess its cheaper if you say so...:ugh2:

maybe where you live...it's around $20 to get one tire shipped to me from the tire rack and there is no tax, which is what the dealership matched.

Threev8s 07-21-2013 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2411936)
LOL!!! Yeah, my favorite board game by a MILE, other than that... Not a DAMN clue where it is, lol

:tiphat:

Just south of Atlantic City. :tup:

chrischhorn 07-21-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Threev8s (Post 2412300)
maybe where you live...it's around $20 to get one tire shipped to me from the tire rack and there is no tax, which is what the dealership matched.

So the $7 was the significant difference? And now you still have no Road Hazard warranty so if this happens again your out another $200....

DEpointfive0 07-21-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2412333)
So the $7 was the significant difference? And now you still have no Road Hazard warranty so if this happens again your out another $200....

Chris, let it go, I had to beat xwcrisxwxw into why Costco is better for 15 minutes and he still thinks I'm retarded...
Walk away...


OP, Costco is AMAZING
No hassles with ANYTHING they do

Threev8s 07-22-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2412333)
So the $7 was the significant difference? And now you still have no Road Hazard warranty so if this happens again your out another $200....

Road hazard is included or can be added for next to nothing through the car dealerships that I've checked with. I think Costco is great for steaks, spring water, laundry detergent, etc. But, no one from there is touching my car, regardless of tire price. Also, if you are applying to be my accountant, your math is off since I had already indicated that there is no tax with the tire rack pricing but there is with Costco. On top of that, if I did get one tire mounted there, it would have pure nitrogen in it which would throw off the pressure between it and the other three tires with air temperature fluctuations. If the price was low enough, I’d buy tires there and take them someplace else for mounting and balancing. Send this thread to Costco and get your gift card for your loyalty. BTW, I belong to Sam’s Club too and got tires for my wife’s car there…I hope you can sleep tonight.



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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2412410)
Chris, let it go, I had to beat xwcrisxwxw into why Costco is better for 15 minutes and he still thinks I'm retarded...
Walk away...

OP, Costco is AMAZING
No hassles with ANYTHING they do

I wish that were true, but I ordered three large items recently and 2 of them were damaged. I’ve been waiting for over a month for one of the items to be replaced. Regardless, I appreciate your light posts. I'm already married and don't need anyone else questioning me about purchases for my car. :tiphat:


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