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Big J 05-25-2013 05:52 PM

New tire problems
 
Long story short, I needed some new tires for some base 18in rims. I put 275/40/18 on the rear and the stock size 225/50/18 on the front. I also realigned the car. Now the handling feels extremely "loose" even when I hit small bumps while driving straight. Has anyone had this problem and fixed it? I know the larger rears would probably have a small effect on handling but I didnt imagine it being this bad.

kenchan 05-25-2013 05:54 PM

you need to break in the tires first.

if it still feels loose, then your tires are too wide for your wheels. you are getting too much squirm.

Big J 05-25-2013 05:54 PM

Even tirerack suggests this setup so I'm thinking there is another problem.

red2010z 05-25-2013 05:57 PM

Those are some crazy *** sizes. Take it back to whoever installed/alignment/balanced and have em fix it. I took mine to Firestone one time and they had to re-do it about 3 times before I was ok with the outcome.

Big J 05-25-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2333023)
you need to break in the tires first.

if it still feels loose, then your tires are too wide for your wheels. you are getting too much squirm.

Good idea, i have only put about 150 miles on them. They are 9in rims so they are in the suggested range for the 275.

blackcherry20 05-25-2013 05:59 PM

This may be obvious but did you check the lug nuts? You don't say...i have actually discovered loose lug nuts in the past.

Big J 05-25-2013 06:02 PM

Haha yes I have. I have had a shop leave the lugs loose before so I pretty much check them every time I get tire work done.

red2010z 05-25-2013 06:02 PM

Oh Ok Good deal then yeah just do what she said and then if it rides like crap still take it back and have em look at it. I always get warranty they sell for alignment.

kenchan 05-25-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Big J (Post 2333029)
Good idea, i have only put about 150 miles on them. They are 9in rims so they are in the suggested range for the 275.

yah, with my driving, 150miles would be plenty, but see if you can do a quick launch or two to rid some of the outer rubber and try again. should stick if the 9" is within your tire's mountable range.

blackcherry20 05-25-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Big J (Post 2333033)
Haha yes I have. I have had a shop leave the lugs loose before so I pretty much check them every time I get tire work done.

:tiphat: :tup: you never know. That is the extent of my help :tup:

kenchan 05-25-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2333040)
:tiphat: :tup: you never know. That is the extent of my help :tup:

says the lady that's making black ribbons on the asphalt... ;) :D

chrischhorn 05-25-2013 11:32 PM

Your stagger is WAY too much. The wider your tires are, the more your car tracks to the road. 50mm difference (almost 2 full inches) is causing your rear end to track much more then your fronts. Ask anyone that goes wide on the front and how much the car tracks once its done. Basically your rears are tracking and your fronts are not or no where as noticeable. You need to fix your fronts or your rears. I'm running a 255/45/18 on front and a 275/40/18 on the rear with no issues. What brand tires did you buy?

Big J 05-25-2013 11:53 PM

Nitto 555 rears( not the dr's). Fronts are the stock advans but they are new. I thought that this could have been the problem but ive had cars with big drag tires with skinnies on the front that felt more stable.

chrischhorn 05-26-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Big J (Post 2333332)
Nitto 555 rears( not the dr's). Fronts are the stock advans but they are new. I thought that this could have been the problem but ive had cars with big drag tires with skinnies on the front that felt more stable.

Looking at it also, your rear tires are an XL (extra load) tire so the way they are supporting weight is also different. The tires are built differently so it could make them react differently comapared to a non XL tire.

Explanation from tire rack
"XL" vs. Standard load tires ... what should I do? - Miles of Smiles | Tire Rack

Waiz 05-26-2013 12:55 AM

Using this tire calculator with your specs:

Tire Size Calculator

26.9" front and 26.7" rear = you have reverse stagger and thus you are going to be getting funky handling

You should be running 245-40-18 & 275-40-18 and your handling will improve greatly

chops 05-26-2013 03:10 AM

also, cant believe it hasnt been mentioned yet, but different tire compounds = squirrelly ride. i had stock advan's in the front, and threw on some conti extreme's in the rear and the rear felt like it was gonna break lose at 50mph. put the same tires on the front and it was fine

Big J 05-26-2013 09:22 AM

Thanks for the input guys.

Akbubba47 05-26-2013 09:48 AM

There's no reason in the world to run such a stagger setup from front to rear. The fronts should be brought up to 245s. I agree with the above about it being a tracking issue. I run 285s and 255s, 19x10.5/9.5 so the tires grab grooves on the road all day. That may be what you're experiencing.

Waiz 05-26-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chops (Post 2333415)
also, cant believe it hasnt been mentioned yet, but different tire compounds = squirrelly ride. i had stock advan's in the front, and threw on some conti extreme's in the rear and the rear felt like it was gonna break lose at 50mph. put the same tires on the front and it was fine

Excellent point

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Originally Posted by Akbubba47 (Post 2333586)
There's no reason in the world to run such a stagger setup from front to rear. The fronts should be brought up to 245s. I agree with the above about it being a tracking issue. I run 285s and 255s, 19x10.5/9.5 so the tires grab grooves on the road all day. That may be what you're experiencing.

:iagree:

kenchan 05-26-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chops (Post 2333415)
also, cant believe it hasnt been mentioned yet,

that's because most car guys dont do this to begin with. :icon17:


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