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ZeeRedZ 04-12-2013 03:43 PM

USW Forged Kingpin on 370Z?
 
Thinking about changing my OEM 370Z wheels so need opinions on my selection.

This is what the 370Z looks like now:

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...psd8b5e2d1.jpg


This is the USW Forged Kingpin wheel I want to mount on the Z:

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1d7c65d6.jpg

The red on the Kingpin will be replaced by the Z's body color. Of course the next step is selecting size and thinking of 20x9.5 front and 20x10.5-11 rear. Reading as much about offset and camber requirements to make sure outside edge of wheels lines up with body contours without requiring drift car-like camber! LOL. Will also install BC RC in future. Question: should the BC RC be done first or last or does it not matter?

Thanks for looking.

Waiz 04-12-2013 06:18 PM

Not feeling those wheels at all, sorry.

If you plan on going that aggressive you would need to figure out suspension first, it would look weird to be aggressive on stock height

I would also suggest against color matching the face, it doesn't belong on a Z. Challenger or Camaro yes but not on a Japanese car

TaylorRyan370 04-12-2013 08:40 PM

Not even on a Camaro. Maybe a 300.

ZeeRedZ 04-13-2013 07:43 AM

Keep them coming as I want as many opinions as possible. Thanks to those that have responded.

chrischhorn 04-13-2013 12:54 PM

Looks too blingy to me. As stated earlier, belongs on a donk, not the Z. Plus color matched wheels to me are tacky.

6MT 04-13-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 2264485)
Not feeling those wheels at all, sorry.

:iagree: but because of the color issue I see.

cooltoy 04-13-2013 04:33 PM

I think the lack of response says it all. If you can't say anything nice.............

SPOHN 04-13-2013 09:38 PM

No holmes. That's not what we do here.

ZeeRedZ 04-14-2013 06:06 PM

OK, this is what I was trying to emulate with a colored center. I accept that a colored center is not acceptable. Is this look still not acceptable given what has been said? Irrespective of the wheel I chose, I want to achieve this stance.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...psfb3500b8.jpg[/URL]

TaylorRyan370 04-14-2013 06:13 PM

A brushed or silver face would look much better than color matched

cooltoy 04-14-2013 07:57 PM

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Chuy 04-14-2013 09:26 PM

Run them, just cause the masses don't agree don't mean that they wont look good. I'd check to see what they would look like in front of the wheel before I commit though.

Japanjay 04-14-2013 10:40 PM

You are either going to suceed or fail. Comes down to whether or not you wanna to pony up the scratch for us to see. I am trying to picture it. Sometimes times I think it may work, others, not really. But without going as far as installing them, you nor us will honestly never know.

ZeeRedZ 04-15-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2267030)

A picture is worth a 1000 words! Thanks you so much for the rendering.

ZeeRedZ 04-15-2013 10:33 AM

I attended the NISMO Fiesta in San Antonio, TX to showcase the light work done by Oracle Lighting of Houston and to check out the wheels that others are sporting on their Z's. Mostly everyone sports the chrome, brushed chrome, black, or conbinations thereof on their Z's. There were a few that pushed the envelope as I am trying to do and I got a few pics of Z's sporting colored centers.

The first pic is as close in representation what I am thinking of doing.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...pseb79dd1b.jpg

White Z's seem to pull of the colored centers well in my opinion.
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...psc1080546.jpg


http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...psc6ac3feb.jpg


http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...pse87ce98e.jpg


http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...psf24cc2fd.jpg

kenchan 04-15-2013 10:58 AM

op- they look heavy.

chknhawk 04-15-2013 11:48 AM

Orange wheels on the 350. thats my vote! :tup: I also like mike (the powedercoater) orange and black setup. red on red.. eh. I was thinking of doing that with my wheels... color matching them black cherry.. I saw one member on here that has everything on his car matched to black cherry including the sport oems. it looks pretty good... but then I figured I didn't like it. I like black wheels or black wheels with a lip. gun metal is cool as well. If you really want to color match them have you thought about maybe just inside accents? Maybe you can get a render of that. But,,, all in all I dont think the Z was made for bling and 24's.. I think 20's is pushing the envelope. 19's look great with the right tyre. 18's for track purposes. 20's for a daily driver that waxes their car every morning before they go to work maybe.... not my style.

cooltoy 04-15-2013 08:42 PM

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Vichtz 04-15-2013 11:53 PM

I aint really feelin it OP, but it's your car :tup:

Xplicit97 04-16-2013 08:14 PM

OP, just my opinion but do what you like.. It's your car and you may love it, who cares if no one else does. I rolled the dice when I bought Bullits old Strasse with the Candy Charizma Blue, and I loved them, so much that now I plan on getting my SP3 in the same blue. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

ZeeRedZ 04-16-2013 08:31 PM

I think car modders are like artist that paint or sculpture their vision. Our blank canvas are the car we buy with a vision of creating an image that reflect us. Believe me when I tell you, I will do what I think reflects me. I do appreciate the feedback received both positive and negative because that is what I asked for, personal opinion. In closing, here are a couple of pics of my other two rides. Yea they are not Z's but both put down over 675 rwhp. Hehe

Black Widow
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...gLSMFBW2-1.jpg

Reaper
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...Copy2ofSF5.jpg

Xplicit97 04-21-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeeRedZ (Post 2270394)
I think car modders are like artist that paint or sculpture their vision. Our blank canvas are the car we buy with a vision of creating an image that reflect us. Believe me when I tell you, I will do what I think reflects me. I do appreciate the feedback received both positive and negative because that is what I asked for, personal opinion. In closing, here are a couple of pics of my other two rides. Yea they are not Z's but both put down over 675 rwhp. Hehe

Black Widow
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...gLSMFBW2-1.jpg

Reaper
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...Copy2ofSF5.jpg

I completely agree, a car is the "artists blank canvas"

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cooltoy 04-21-2013 12:52 AM

But some artists are good and some are not.

ZeeRedZ 04-21-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2277039)
But some artists are good and some are not.

ROF, I have to agree with this statement but then again...

Volk Z 04-21-2013 06:57 PM

If you want to tie in some red in the wheel a red pin stripe like the TE37 time attack (matte black with red pin stripe) would look better with your calipers powdercoated red.

Would you wear red pants with a red shirt? Might be overkill unless you worked at Target and even they sport khaki pants and a red shirt ;)

ZeeRedZ 04-21-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2277775)
If you want to tie in some red in the wheel a red pin stripe like the TE37 time attack (matte black with red pin stripe) would look better with your calipers powdercoated red.

Would you wear red pants with a red shirt? Might be overkill unless you worked at Target and even they sport khaki pants and a red shirt ;)


ROF, did you see the pic of my Challenger?

It seems to me that Americans buying and modding Japanese cars are trying to do the Japanese thing! I want to do the American thing on a Japanese car! That is why I posted the pics from the Nismo event in San Antonio where folks were actually going from the black, chrome, satin style to something outside the box. I am think about doing the red strip on a black center with a chrome barrel or just outlining the pockets in Z red, black center with chrome barrel. Might be too busy though. Yes got to PC the calipers.

The next issue I will face is loweing the Z, putting on 20x9.5 F and 20x11 R lowered with BC racing coilovers. The offset and camber is what I need to address.

Volk Z 04-22-2013 09:17 AM

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ROF, did you see the pic of my Challenger?

It seems to me that Americans buying and modding Japanese cars are trying to do the Japanese thing! I want to do the American thing on a Japanese car! That is why I posted the pics from the Nismo event in San Antonio where folks were actually going from the black, chrome, satin style to something outside the box. I am think about doing the red strip on a black center with a chrome barrel or just outlining the pockets in Z red, black center with chrome barrel. Might be too busy though. Yes got to PC the calipers.

The next issue I will face is loweing the Z, putting on 20x9.5 F and 20x11 R lowered with BC racing coilovers. The offset and camber is what I need to address.

I hear ya bro! Im going with Hyper Blue Volks on my Black Z with red calipers... being different is great but it just needs to look good so its always a fine line when it hasnt really been done before.

I think the red is fine if you go with it but go with a better wheel more JAP car oriented and i think you will be good. Like a Work wheel would pull that look off.

As for suspension- I had the BC's on my 350z and they were great. Install is super easy (you will need to set pre-load in the rear-you can PM me for more info on that when you get them)
I would recommend going with the following width and offset
20x9.5+15 (tire 255-30-20)and 20x11+10 (tire 305-25-20)
I wouldnt worry too much about the camber/toe etc on the alignment, just have a good aligner bring it close to within spec so you wont tear through tires. With the above specs they will be aggressive but they wont rub if you dont dump the car (which i wouldnt recommend)

See pic below- The wheels are WORK wheels like i recommended and are similar to the offset/tire combo i listed above- only difference is the rear is a 20x10.5+0 (4mm more aggressive then above)

ZeeRedZ 04-23-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2278415)
I hear ya bro! Im going with Hyper Blue Volks on my Black Z with red calipers... being different is great but it just needs to look good so its always a fine line when it hasnt really been done before.

I think the red is fine if you go with it but go with a better wheel more JAP car oriented and i think you will be good. I would recommend going with the following width and offset 20x9.5+15 (tire 255-30-20)and 20x11+10 (tire 305-25-20) I wouldnt worry too much about the camber/toe etc on the alignment, just have a good aligner bring it close to within spec so you wont tear through tires. With the above specs they will be aggressive but they wont rub if you dont dump the car (which i wouldnt recommend)

Thanks for the info and could not agree with you more that it needs to look good. Yea trying to find that "fine line" between just right and over done. It sounds like you are recommending against too large a drop with the BC RC. Do you think a drop of 1.5" front and rear is too aggressive for the recommended wheel tire combo you suggested?

In regard to a more Jap car oriented wheel, I am having difficulty defining that style.. I am getting a good deal from USWForged.com. There web site has a gallery with many styles. Which would you think fulfill the Jap style for the Z? Actually I would welcome many opinions on this topic. Thanks.

dvo 04-23-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeRedZ (Post 2266876)
OK, this is what I was trying to emulate with a colored center. I accept that a colored center is not acceptable. Is this look still not acceptable given what has been said? Irrespective of the wheel I chose, I want to achieve this stance.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...psfb3500b8.jpg[/URL]

Or you can just get the Work Gnosis GS4 since that's what that Venaci wheel is.

That wheel design doesn't look very strong. The spoke looks really thin by the center. Also, the finish on it is pretty bad. Orange peel like crazy.

Volk Z 04-23-2013 01:59 PM

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Thanks for the info and could not agree with you more that it needs to look good. Yea trying to find that "fine line" between just right and over done. It sounds like you are recommending against too large a drop with the BC RC. Do you think a drop of 1.5" front and rear is too aggressive for the recommended wheel tire combo you suggested?

In regard to a more Jap car oriented wheel, I am having difficulty defining that style.. I am getting a good deal from USWForged.com. There web site has a gallery with many styles. Which would you think fulfill the Jap style for the Z? Actually I would welcome many opinions on this topic. Thanks.

I looked at USW forgeds website and that may be your first problem... Those are all american style rims.

Let me give you a run down on jap style wheels. Lightweight focused, simplicity and clean lines. I am not sure your prices you are willing to spend on wheels and if you care about weight?

Below are some pics of Red Z's or red wheels. Hopefully you understand the difference.

The real question to ask you is how do you feel when people take an american car and rice it out? I assume you and your american car buddies made fun of that person. Thats what we are trying to keep you away from doing but it would be just the opposite americanizing a Jap car,

First pic is a Volk TE37 (knockoff but you get the point for style)
2nd pic is an OEM Nismo wheel
3rd pic- a legit Volk TE37sl with a red decal to tie in the red car :) not overkill
4th pic- HRE wheel (made in USA BUT VERY NICE WHEELS) on a Porsche with a similar body style as the Z so you can see my point.

Simple lines, clean looking wheels. not too bulky of spokes etc.

ZeeRedZ 04-23-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dvo (Post 2281056)
Or you can just get the Work Gnosis GS4 since that's what that Venaci wheel is.

That wheel design doesn't look very strong. The spoke looks really thin by the center. Also, the finish on it is pretty bad. Orange peel like crazy.

Really, the gun metal grey centers are peeling?

I agree the spokes are thin but the strength of the wheel is also dependent on the quality of the alloy used to manufacturer the wheel as well as the design. I certainly would not use these wheels to race the Z as an 18" would be better suited for this purpose. I know that the USW Forged wheels are made of T6 tempered 6061 alloy which has a very high tensel strength.

Volk Z 04-23-2013 02:27 PM

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Really, the gun metal grey centers are peeling?

I agree the spokes are thin but the strength of the wheel is also dependent on the quality of the alloy used to manufacturer the wheel as well as the design. I certainly would not use these wheels to race the Z as an 18" would be better suited for this purpose. I know that the USW Forged wheels are made of T6 tempered 6061 alloy which has a very high tensel strength.

So is a "Japanese" style wheel more a 5-spoke wheel than a multi-spoke wheel?

No, please tell me you saw my post with pics.. It had split spoke, 6 spoke and 5 spoke...

First off if you have the cash get a forged monoblock wheel or a nice custom 3 piece forged wheel (HRE, Strasse forged etc)

That being said if you want red thats cool but i think it may be a little too matching and i would avoid chrome lips (unless done with the right wheel)

Personally i think a Black Volk TE37 with Red Volk/Rays emblems with a red pinstripe would look the best. It will tie in your red calipers and red car not blind you with too much red... But below are some other color options

Or the 350z i posted looks awesome! White TE37s on red looks great! Red caliper behind their would look amazing

ZeeRedZ 04-23-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2281171)
No, please tell me you saw my post with pics.. It had split spoke, 6 spoke and 5 spoke...

First off if you have the cash get a forged monoblock wheel or a nice custom 3 piece forged wheel (HRE, Strasse forged etc)

That being said if you want red thats cool but i think it may be a little too matching and i would avoid chrome lips (unless done with the right wheel)

Personally i think a Black Volk TE37 with Red Volk/Rays emblems with a red pinstripe would look the best. It will tie in your red calipers and red car not blind you with too much red... But below are some other color options

Or the 350z i posted looks awesome! White TE37s on red looks great! Red caliper behind their would look amazing

Sorry I did edit my statement after I saw your post. Apparently your post came in when I was posting my statements. Your points are well delivered and taken.

iceman21_23 04-23-2013 02:40 PM

here ya go you can take a look next time you and i are both at a meet, maybe all team bash?
work gs2 red spokes
http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...psce09e0e6.jpg

Volk Z 04-23-2013 02:42 PM

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Sorry I did edit my statement after I saw your post. Apparently your post came in when I was posting my statements. Your points are well delivered and taken.

Good to hear, i had a red 350z and was going to do bronze or gold but then sold it for my Daytona Blue 350z and went with gloss black wheels and all that. I attached a pic of the old Z.

ZeeRedZ 04-23-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman21_23 (Post 2281192)
here ya go you can take a look next time you and i are both at a meet, maybe all team bash?
work gs2 red spokes
http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...psce09e0e6.jpg

See my post #15 as I think the pic I show is your Z at the Nismo Fiesta. Or you have a twin somewhere out there.

Relly appreciate all of the feedback I am getting! Thanks to all.

iceman21_23 04-23-2013 02:50 PM

ha yup thats me, didn't see that on the first page...


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