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cooltoy 04-10-2013 02:40 PM

Nismo vs Sport - why same tire in front, but not in rear?
 
So as we all know the sport model comes with 19x9 in front and 19x10 in the rear.

Nismo comes with 19x9.5 in front and 19x10.5 in the rear.

How come both use the 245/40/19 in the front, but different tires in the back (275/35/19 for sport and 285/35/19 for Nismo)?

Jordo! 04-10-2013 02:53 PM

I believe the 285's will fit just fine on the 19x10 wheel, so I have to assume its simply that they gave the Nismo a bit more rubber in the back for better traction (i.e., another "upgrade" feature for the Nismo).

The fronts are less of an issue, as its the rears doing all the grunt work.

cooltoy 04-10-2013 03:01 PM

What about running the 275's on the 10.5 wheel?

tjlazer 04-10-2013 03:03 PM

Yeah it's just meatier on the rear for the Nismo, since it does have a wider wheel and 18 more horses. ;)

kenchan 04-10-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2260640)
So as we all know the sport model comes with 19x9 in front and 19x10 in the rear.

Nismo comes with 19x9.5 in front and 19x10.5 in the rear.

How come both use the 245/40/19 in the front, but different tires in the back (275/35/19 for sport and 285/35/19 for Nismo)?

nismo has so much more power than the base, the 10mm extra rubber is required.




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cossie1600 04-10-2013 05:07 PM

To justify the 3k premium

cooltoy 04-10-2013 05:09 PM

So if I were to get some CE28 19X9.5 and 19X10.5, I should be able to use stock sport package tires?

DEpointfive0 04-10-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2260864)
So if I were to get some CE28 19X9.5 and 19X10.5, I should be able to use stock sport package tires?

Yeah, you'll have a little stretch and your speedo will read like 2-4% faster than you're actually going

cooltoy 04-10-2013 05:19 PM

Why would it do that? The diameter does not change. Is it the wider rim that would throw the speedometer off?

Waiz 04-10-2013 06:14 PM

I didn't design the NISMO but I'm sure that the designers decided on a wider tire since it is supposed to be the higher performance version of the 370z

Regarding your CE28's, you are correct if the diameter doesn't change it has no affect on anything else.

SS_Firehawk 04-10-2013 06:58 PM

The diameter of the tire that fits at 10.5in and and 9-9.5 in is slightly different.

cooltoy 04-11-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2260874)
Yeah, you'll have a little stretch and your speedo will read like 2-4% faster than you're actually going

Would anyone have any pictures of what this would look like by any chance? Especially the rear. I guess the front would look like a stock Nismo.

jcosta79 04-11-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2260876)
Why would it do that? The diameter does not change. Is it the wider rim that would throw the speedometer off?

The OD (Overall Diameter) of your tire changes depending on the brand and aspect ratio.

A 275/35/19 tire does not have the same OD as a 285/35/19 tire does. The inside diameter is the same because it needs to fit a 19 inch wheel, but the OD changes.

Look here: Bridgestone*Potenza RE050A

The OD of the stock 275/35/19 Potenza RE050A is 26.5".

Now here: Yokohama*ADVAN Sport

The OD of the stock NISMO 285/35/19 Yokohama Advan Sports are 26.9".

That is why, generally, for every 20 mm of width that you go up in a tire, you need to go down a level in aspect ratio. For example, I should be able to run a 305/30/19 on my car and still be pretty close to the factory OD (depending on tire manufacturer).

Cmike2780 04-11-2013 01:32 PM

Truthfully though, the speedo isn't acurate enough for any of that to matter as you're reasonably close to the same outside diameter.

jcosta79 04-11-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2262148)
Truthfully though, the speedo isn't acurate enough for any of that to matter as you're reasonably close to the same outside diameter.

It matters to the VDC. Put on tires that are too far off from the OEM OD and you will have the VDC kicking in all the time.

Ask me how I know.

Cmike2780 04-11-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2262162)
It matters to the VDC. Put on tires that are too far off from the OEM OD and you will have the VDC kicking in all the time.

Ask me how I know.

That's kind of what I mean. I don't think swapping the wheel & tire package from a Nismo to a base would really throw it out of wack for example. There's a bit of wiggle room in tire sizes but not much.

jcosta79 04-11-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2262198)
That's kind of what I mean. I don't think swapping the wheel & tire package from a Nismo to a base would really throw it out of wack for example. There's a bit of wiggle room in tire sizes but not much.

You are correct. Honestly, for how much the VDC kicks in with my NISMO with the wider wheels and tires, I don't think Nissan re-calibrated anything over the base car.

I am going to try a 305/30/19 rear when I need tires and see how the car likes it. It's much closer to the stock OD of 26.5".

Eagle 04-11-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2261670)
Would anyone have any pictures of what this would look like by any chance? Especially the rear. I guess the front would look like a stock Nismo.

Here you go. I'm running on 285 RE-11's in the rear now, but this is how a nismo wheel would look on the sport RE-050's

http://www.the370z.com/members/eagle...449680b6-c.jpg

cooltoy 04-11-2013 03:51 PM

Any shots of the wheels from the top or the back? I just want to see how "stretched" it looks.

cooltoy 04-11-2013 03:54 PM

I guess I saw some in your profile, does not look like there is any rim sticking out. Thanks.

Eagle 04-11-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2262414)
Any shots of the wheels from the top or the back? I just want to see how "stretched" it looks.

Check my album Here
EDIT: lol, You responded before I put up the link to my album.

Those are all the shots I have online with the 275s on the rear. I might have some more at home. If i find any others I'll post em up later tonight

Eagle 04-11-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2262418)
I guess I saw some in your profile, does not look like there is any rim sticking out. Thanks.

Yeah if anything the tire looks slightly concave, but the rim isn't much more exposed than it is on a 285. You should be fine.

kenchan 04-11-2013 04:23 PM

the sidewalls of tires by tire brand looks different too.

here's a continetal DW 275/35/19 on 10.5" weds.

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RE050, S04's both show more stretch than the AdvanSports even though on same wheel width, same tire width.


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