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Vichtz 03-29-2013 11:42 PM

Enkei Raijin or has anyone heard of Verde?
 
Wheels and brakes are in my imminent future. I was looking at the Einkei Raijin on Tire Rack and was wondering what/if I would have to run spacers. A couple post down there is some one asking about Enkei and I know they are reputable and have a fair price. But at the bottom of the Tire Rack page there are "new" wheels called Verde Paralax. suckers are 700 for a full 19" staggered set up. That has got to be too good to be true. Anyone have any experience with them? I'm leaning toward the Raijin as it is so spacer help would be great, but I am entertaining the Paralx's cause I would have money left over to powder coat them...

chrischhorn 03-29-2013 11:46 PM

No named wheels that are probably twice the weight of enkeis? No thanks.

raymondo510 03-30-2013 12:20 AM

They don't look too bad for 700 bucks. Kind of like Vossen CV-5, but comparing these to the Enkeis Chrischhorn is probably right about the weight. I've bought wheels from Americas tires before on an older car I had but I honestly I wouldn't put them on my Z

Vichtz 03-30-2013 01:14 AM

yea like I said I am feelin the Raijin any way, but 700 bucks is kind of hard to pass up.
These are the specs on the Raijins:
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78

Are these offsets ok or will there need to be extreme spacer usage? I want flush and dont mind using spacers, but flush is the key

Heres a link to the Raijin also
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand

raymondo510 03-30-2013 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 2241379)
yea like I said I am feelin the Raijin any way, but 700 bucks is kind of hard to pass up.
These are the specs on the Raijins:
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78

Are these offsets ok or will there need to be extreme spacer usage? I want flush and dont mind using spacers, but flush is the key

Heres a link to the Raijin also
Enkei Tuning Raijin Black Painted

Yea the Raijin look a lot better IMO and will save you weight. Im not too sure as to how the offsets would look, but I would probably go with a little lower offset in the front. Are you lowered?

Big J 03-30-2013 02:11 AM

I've been eyeballing the Raijin's lately myself. You'll need a spacer for flush fitment but I think it's possible to make them work.

chrischhorn 03-30-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 2241379)
yea like I said I am feelin the Raijin any way, but 700 bucks is kind of hard to pass up.
These are the specs on the Raijins:
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78

Are these offsets ok or will there need to be extreme spacer usage? I want flush and dont mind using spacers, but flush is the key

Heres a link to the Raijin also
Enkei Tuning Raijin Black Painted

You are going to need a 20mm spacer in front and a 15mm spacer in the back give or take depending on your camber settings and ride height.

Vichtz 03-30-2013 01:29 PM

Ok thats fine. 20 and 15 is no problem :tup:. I dont have a drop and though I want one, the roads around here would literally tear my car apart :( I bottom out enough as it is...

chrischhorn 03-30-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 2241864)
Ok thats fine. 20 and 15 is no problem :tup:. I dont have a drop and though I want one, the roads around here would literally tear my car apart :( I bottom out enough as it is...

Heh, yeah. I use to go hang out at College Station all the time since I graduated in Texas.(Use to live in Dallas, now in Hawaii. Been here for 7 months) Roads are the kindest there but believe it or not, Hawaii is much worse lol.

Mikes350z 03-30-2013 01:35 PM

Never skimp on wheels just because they are cheap. The only thing about your car that touches the ground are the wheels and tires. Cheap wheels can be heavy and flimsy. Although forged is the way to go I know it can be expensive.

my .02c is to save and get something forged that is lightweight and strong. There are a lot of cracked wheels and accident pictures around.

Also PC crappy wheels make them even more vulnerable to crack when hitting potholes and bumps.

Vichtz 03-30-2013 02:36 PM

meh, for every 1 failed wheel story there are 500 success stories. Enkei is reputable and acceptably priced, and I'm not about to drop 2k for wheels and then another 1200 on tires. Not happening.

Also here is a more expansive sizing chart. I add the spacer mm to the offset right? So i want 58 in the front and 30 in the back?

http://www.enkei.com/size_chart/RAIJIN.pdf

Mike 03-30-2013 06:48 PM

those verde's are only 4 lbs heavier than the enkeis. I would go for it if you like them. In my experience, Tire Rack doesn't sell crap. However, they only have 1 front wheel in stock right now, not expecting more until 5/3. They only have two rears in stock also.

Vichtz 03-30-2013 10:42 PM

yea I saw that. I might as well get the Raijin because I would have to pay to get the Verde's powder coated anyway. Silver isn't happening either haha, but I was interested in the 19's. The raijin come in 19 as you can see from the chart, but I'm no wheel fitment guru so I don't know if they would work

Waiz 03-31-2013 07:48 PM

I like the Raijin but unless you go 18x9.5 (+15) or 19x9.5 (+15) they will be too conservative for a 370z

This is a sizing chart directly from Enkei for reference:

http://www.enkei.com/size_chart/RAIJIN.pdf

I would instead go with a set of Enkei RPF1's in 19x9.5 (+22) and 19x10.5 (+15)

Vichtz 03-31-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2241849)
You are going to need a 20mm spacer in front and a 15mm spacer in the back give or take depending on your camber settings and ride height.

So this won't work with
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78
Waizzz? Im not doubting Chrischhorn here but I'm welcoming all opinions

I'd like to stay 18 for the price...

chrischhorn 03-31-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 2243952)
So this won't work with
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78
Waizzz? Im not doubting Chrischhorn here but I'm welcoming all opinions

I'd like to stay 18 for the price...

I'm running 255/40/18 tire on 18X9.5 +35 with a 10mm spacer up front and a 275/40/18 tire on 18X10.5 +12 with a 5mm spacer in the rear and I still rub the fender under full compression on front. Rears are perfect. You could run the 18X9.5+15 with a shorter tire but if you keep OEM diameters, you will rub the fender. You can always do a 18x9.5 +15 square set up and do the same size tires all around with a spacer only in the rear if you're willing to take the risk of rubbing the front fender.

If you are wanting to stay with staggered wheels, do 18X8.5 +35 with a 15mm spacer and 18x9.5+15 with a 10mm spacer.


Just an fyi as you seem to be a little confused about spacers. If you have a positive offset wheel, Ex +35 offset, and add a 10mm spacer. It makes it a +25 offset. It does not actually add to the offset. It subtracts it.

Waiz 03-31-2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 2243952)
So this won't work with
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78
Waizzz? Im not doubting Chrischhorn here but I'm welcoming all opinions

I'd like to stay 18 for the price...

100% will work, but will need a pretty big spacer

Worst case you can sell them

Vichtz 03-31-2013 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2244004)
Just an fyi as you seem to be a little confused about spacers. If you have a positive offset wheel, Ex +35 offset, and add a 10mm spacer. It makes it a +25 offset. It does not actually add to the offset. It subtracts it.

Thanks for clearing that up :tup:
Yea I dont want to be rubbing too much of course

Are there any negatives to running a large spacer? I don't see why that would be an issue Waizzz? Like you say worst case scenario I'll just sell them haha

Big J 04-01-2013 12:12 AM

A good bit of people are running 20mm and 25mm spacers on the oem base and sport rims. I have not heard of anytihng negative on here.

I really want you to snag these so I can see if I like them haha! What color you thinking?

Bigviet23 04-01-2013 09:28 AM

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i'm running the raijins on mine. 18x9.5 with 35 offsets all the way around. no spacer up front and 30mm in the rear. i'm also dropped on eibachs. i'll post a pic in a bit
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Big J 04-01-2013 02:16 PM

What tires are you running? I would definately like to see pics.

Waiz 04-01-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vichtz (Post 2244088)
Thanks for clearing that up :tup:
Yea I dont want to be rubbing too much of course

Are there any negatives to running a large spacer? I don't see why that would be an issue Waizzz? Like you say worst case scenario I'll just sell them haha

I would just go with a square setup and get 18x9.5 (+15) all around, no spacer needed but you will need to stagger your tire setup

245-40-18 front and 275-40-18 rear would be what I would run

Bigviet23 04-01-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big J (Post 2244932)
What tires are you running? I would definately like to see pics.

running 255/45 in the front and 275/40 (or 45) in the rear Nitto's xxr i think, there should be pics in my build thread:
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ar-so-far.html

Vichtz 04-01-2013 11:35 PM

I'm gonna get the black ones probably. I definately don't want to be taking the turns at 75 (speed limit in the area now :tup:) and feel tire rub and blow out... I'm not dropped or anything, so I did not suspect our stock suspension was that soft under full load. so perhaps I should change it to "as flush as can be with minimal fender rub." The stock 18 are just much too sunk in, particularly in the rear.

Big J 04-02-2013 12:29 AM

I'm liking 18x9.5 + 15 on all 4 corners.


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