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Kayzee 03-26-2013 03:45 AM

Tire stretching?... Meaty vs low profile...
 
I'm looking for new shoes for the Z, and ill be frank right off the bat - im as new as it gets to figuring out how something will sit/fit/look before it actually is on the car. (reading up a lot of stickies and gulping down info, bear with me...)


My goal is a look similar to this, where the tire looks considerably thinner and flatter on the wheel

http://www.the370z.com/members/kevr6...wheels-now.jpg

as opposed to something like this:

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/20-RPM505-Whe...NBbg~~60_3.JPG

where the tires is all rounded and fat, which is absolutely horrendous looking.




What is the difference im looking at here? is the tire in the first pic stretched? or is it just that certain make of tire that gives that look? how do I achieve the former?


(I do realize the look partially has to do with the lack of lip in the 2nd picture, as well as the lack of drop, compared to the 370 in the first pic)


I am currently looking at something like this...

20 x 9 11 XXR 526 Gold Lip Rims Wheels Staggered 08 09 10 11 12 13 Nissan 370Z | eBay

as i don't have the cash to drop on some works or the venici's I fell in love with, and probably wont for a while (poor college life) :owned:


Thanks for all the help guize. :tup:


EDIT:

Furthermore, 9 front and 11 rear width, how am I to know how far it will come out of the fender (if at all?) ?
I do know the offset is the distance from the mounting point to the tip of the lip... however that doesnt help me imagine how I'd calculate that.



P.S: shoutout to kevr6 for the inspiration. such a clean, beautiful car. :D

raymondo510 03-26-2013 04:44 AM

First off I know how you feel, Theres a TON of information to consider to get the right look whether that be with the low pro tires or the beefier setup. I'm in the same boat as im pretty sure im ordering Work wheels today. I will be going with a 19x9.5+15, 19x11+10. The first pic doesn't seem to have stretched tires just a smaller sidewall. As far as how far the wheel will be to the fender is where wheels width and offsets come into play. Some of the stickied threads have a ton of examples as to what you can do so do some searching in there. One last thing.. did you plan on buying wheels off Ebay? I've never done it but ionno if I would take that risk. Look around some of the vendors as there are some pretty affordable wheels on there from much more reputable dealers than ebay and Good luck

chrischhorn 03-26-2013 12:06 PM

the big differences is the 1st one is 20" wheels and slammed. the 350z looks like stock height or a very mild drop on 19's. The bigger the wheel, the less sidewall you will have which seems to be what you're looking for. Neither picture is stretched. Offsets play the role in how flush to the fenders you will be. are you lowered at all? plan on lowering? willing to run camber?

BlKsUbYkId 03-26-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2233543)
First off I know how you feel, Theres a TON of information to consider to get the right look whether that be with the low pro tires or the beefier setup. I'm in the same boat as im pretty sure im ordering Work wheels today. I will be going with a 19x9.5+15, 19x11+10. The first pic doesn't seem to have stretched tires just a smaller sidewall. As far as how far the wheel will be to the fender is where wheels width and offsets come into play. Some of the stickied threads have a ton of examples as to what you can do so do some searching in there. One last thing.. did you plan on buying wheels off Ebay? I've never done it but ionno if I would take that risk. Look around some of the vendors as there are some pretty affordable wheels on there from much more reputable dealers than ebay and Good luck

Im running 19x9.5 +17 & 19x11 +10

Its a beautiful fit. I have a bit of negative camber but I still need to get an alignment.

Kayzee 03-26-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2233543)
First off I know how you feel, Theres a TON of information to consider to get the right look whether that be with the low pro tires or the beefier setup. I'm in the same boat as im pretty sure im ordering Work wheels today. I will be going with a 19x9.5+15, 19x11+10. The first pic doesn't seem to have stretched tires just a smaller sidewall. As far as how far the wheel will be to the fender is where wheels width and offsets come into play. Some of the stickied threads have a ton of examples as to what you can do so do some searching in there. One last thing.. did you plan on buying wheels off Ebay? I've never done it but ionno if I would take that risk. Look around some of the vendors as there are some pretty affordable wheels on there from much more reputable dealers than ebay and Good luck

I rear around about ebay wheels and it seems due to the nature of business on there bad **** doesnt stick around... thus these unknown brand wheels are decent, simply not BBS labeled.

With regards to the smaller sidewall, what dimension of tire (when looking to purchase) am i looking at to get a less meaty tire?


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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2234189)
the big differences is the 1st one is 20" wheels and slammed. the 350z looks like stock height or a very mild drop on 19's. The bigger the wheel, the less sidewall you will have which seems to be what you're looking for. Neither picture is stretched. Offsets play the role in how flush to the fenders you will be. are you lowered at all? plan on lowering? willing to run camber?


Yes thats exactly what i'm looking for!

I plan to purchase either H&R's or Swifts with the set of wheels, as well as rear camber arms.

Japanjay 03-26-2013 04:23 PM

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raymondo510 03-26-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlKsUbYkId (Post 2234343)
Im running 19x9.5 +17 & 19x11 +10

Its a beautiful fit. I have a bit of negative camber but I still need to get an alignment.

Sweet, got any pics

Waiz 03-26-2013 05:50 PM

First 370z is running 20's so sidewall is slimmer, that 350z is running 18's most likely with a horrible fitting setup

Only reason to stretch is to be able to slam your car on coilovers, otherwise if on springs it will not look right.

255-30-20 & 285-30-20 would be appropriate size tires for a 20" setup

Waiz 03-26-2013 05:54 PM

BTW, I did a quick search for XXR 526 370z through google and it directed me to this thread:

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...ered-20-s.html

I would just follow his setup but in the gold color that you want

BlKsUbYkId 03-26-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2234862)
Sweet, got any pics

I'll post one when Im home from work.

raymondo510 03-26-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kayzee (Post 2234508)
I rear around about ebay wheels and it seems due to the nature of business on there bad **** doesnt stick around... thus these unknown brand wheels are decent, simply not BBS labeled.

With regards to the smaller sidewall, what dimension of tire (when looking to purchase) am i looking at to get a less meaty tire?





Yes thats exactly what i'm looking for!

I plan to purchase either H&R's or Swifts with the set of wheels, as well as rear camber arms.

Personally I don't feel there's anything wrong with replicas as long as your not tracking on them, but there are still vendors on here that sell rep's like varstoen on, but some people will debate the whole replica thing.

As far as the dimension depending on widths depends on how wide you can go. I just ordered my Works:happydance: and my rears 19x11 , at first I was thinking about running 305/30/19 but now I'm thinking about running maybe a 295 or 285 to get that flatter look you speak of

Kayzee 03-26-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 2234888)
BTW, I did a quick search for XXR 526 370z through google and it directed me to this thread:

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...ered-20-s.html

I would just follow his setup but in the gold color that you want


this is gold for me. Thanks so much :tup: :tup:

One quick question, do you see how his tires are rounded/thick? would I achieve more of a flat tire smaller sidewall look by having a more narrow tire mounted? whats the secret here?

EDIT: or is it the drop that hides the thickness?

Waiz 03-26-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kayzee (Post 2235051)
this is gold for me. Thanks so much :tup: :tup:

One quick question, do you see how his tires are rounded/thick? would I achieve more of a flat tire smaller sidewall look by having a more narrow tire mounted? whats the secret here?

EDIT: or is it the drop that hides the thickness?

It's the tire, no two size tires of different brands will be 100% equal

Slight variations in each brand

BlKsUbYkId 03-26-2013 08:45 PM

Here you go!


http://i45.tinypic.com/72vktl.jpg

raymondo510 03-26-2013 09:04 PM

Nice are you lowered at all?

raymondo510 03-26-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlKsUbYkId (Post 2235150)

O and what are your tire specs

BlKsUbYkId 03-26-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2235195)
Nice are you lowered at all?

Lowered on Swifts. I'm debating coilovers...

Stock Nismo tires so:

245/40/19
285/35/19

raymondo510 03-26-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlKsUbYkId (Post 2235207)
Lowered on Swifts. I'm debating coilovers...

Stock Nismo tires so:

245/40/19
285/35/19

Hmm I was debating coils vs springs, but since we have nearly the same setup I think ima go with coils and close some of that gap up

asdfsammich 03-26-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2234939)
... my rears 19x11 , at first I was thinking about running 305/30/19 but now I'm thinking about running maybe a 295 or 285 to get that flatter look you speak of

I got Works on order too. Here mid may. I don't have tires for them yet and was debating the same thing.

On an 11 does anyone know if a 305 will bulge or be flat? Or do you have to go 295?



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BlKsUbYkId 03-26-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2235228)
Hmm I was debating coils vs springs, but since we have nearly the same setup I think ima go with coils and close some of that gap up

my only problem is the driveway :owned:

rAiN 03-26-2013 10:46 PM

anybody here have picture of 275/35 stretched on 12 width wheels?

raymondo510 03-26-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdfsammich (Post 2235250)
I got Works on order too. Here mid may. I don't have tires for them yet and was debating the same thing.

On an 11 does anyone know if a 305 will bulge or be flat? Or do you have to go 295?



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Where did you order em from. I was told 8 weeks from Vivd so I guess thats around the same time

raymondo510 03-26-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlKsUbYkId (Post 2235368)
my only problem is the driveway :owned:

Yea I hear ya, I'm either gonna have to figure out some ramp configuration or park on the street.

asdfsammich 03-26-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2235413)
Where did you order em from. I was told 8 weeks from Vivd so I guess thats around the same time

Ravspec


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BlKsUbYkId 03-26-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2235415)
Yea I hear ya, I'm either gonna have to figure out some ramp configuration or park on the street.

I think I'm gonna go with coils in the next few months. I'm in no rush as I don't drive the 370z as often as I should.

Zis4me 03-26-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2234939)
I just ordered my Works:happydance: and my rears 19x11 , at first I was thinking about running 305/30/19 but now I'm thinking about running maybe a 295 or 285 to get that flatter look you speak of

I am going to get 20x11 in the rear for mine and I was going to do 285/30/20 seems to look like they will work fine. and 20x10 in the front with 255/35/20

I am just not sure what my offset should be to get it close to flush. what are you offsets on your rims

raymondo510 03-26-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zis4me (Post 2235441)
I am going to get 20x11 in the rear for mine and I was going to do 285/30/20 seems to look like they will work fine. and 20x10 in the front with 255/35/20

I am just not sure what my offset should be to get it close to flush. what are you offsets on your rims

Im doing + 10 in the rear and +15 upfront. Im gonna run more camber than stock so hopefully it will sit pretty flush.

Zis4me 03-26-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2235471)
Im doing + 10 in the rear and +15 upfront. Im gonna run more camber than stock so hopefully it will sit pretty flush.

The rims I want I can get +10 in the back but the fronts the smallest is +25

The Rims I want

raymondo510 03-27-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zis4me (Post 2235476)
The rims I want I can get +10 in the back but the fronts the smallest is +25

The Rims I want

I cant see the link because i'm on my work computer

Waiz 03-27-2013 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlKsUbYkId (Post 2235150)

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