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chrischhorn 03-14-2013 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2212402)
anyone know what the proper offset for front and rear i should have if I do decide to run with 18x10 square?

I would probably do +30(f) and +10(r) so it leaves you a little room for dips and hard corners and wider tires. If you want flush then +25(f) and +5(r) would probably get your wheels flush but could leave a possibility of tires rubbing fender depending on tire sizes.

scruffydog 03-14-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2212452)
I would probably do +30(f) and +10(r) so it leaves you a little room for dips and hard corners and wider tires. If you want flush then +25(f) and +5(r) would probably get your wheels flush but could leave a possibility of tires rubbing fender depending on tire sizes.

Thanks! I might end up 285 or 275...i'm still debating...Forgestar could get the me proper offset if I go with them, but it'll be a 18x10" instead of 18x10.5" and i won't be able to rotate.

chrischhorn 03-14-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2213101)
Thanks! I might end up 285 or 275...i'm still debating...Forgestar could get the me proper offset if I go with them, but it'll be a 18x10" instead of 18x10.5" and i won't be able to rotate.


Why wouldn't you be able to rotate? do 18x10+30 square set up and then run a 20mm spacer in the rear to flush it up equally. Then you can still rotate and what not. That's what my future plans are. I might have to sell my WEDs as the offsets offered just won't work for a square setup......:shakes head:

scruffydog 03-14-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2213114)
Why wouldn't you be able to rotate? do 18x10+30 square set up and then run a 20mm spacer in the rear to flush it up equally. Then you can still rotate and what not. That's what my future plans are. I might have to sell my WEDs as the offsets offered just won't work for a square setup......:shakes head:

Oh I meant if I wanted to go without spacers, that's the only reason I would go down in width for the rim size aside from more brand/style selections; at 18x10 Forgestar I could get the proper offset I need without the risk of using spacers at the cost of no rotation.

What is your current setup for the Weds?

chrischhorn 03-14-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2213123)
Oh I meant if I wanted to go without spacers, that's the only reason I would go down in width for the rim size aside from more brand/style selections; at 18x10 Forgestar I could get the proper offset I need without the risk of using spacers at the cost of no rotation.

What is your current setup for the Weds?

Honestly, as long as the spacers are installed correctly and torqued down properly, I don't see an issue.

My current set up is 18X9.5 + 25 up front and 18x10.5 +7 in the rear. Not sure how I feel about running a square setup on 18X9.5's. For these specific wheels they come in a +35 offset which means I'd need a 25mm or 30mm spacer to flush up the rears. I'm already running a 10 on front and a 5 on the rear.

Mike 03-14-2013 05:39 PM

my 18x10s are +34, my 18x9.5s are +46 Both work fine with 275s, but the 9.5s need a 5mm spacer to clear the front control arms when running 295s

scruffydog 03-15-2013 02:03 PM

Thanks a lot for the useful info. I am right now shopping for Spacers and I think I am able to find a configuration where I could use my stock lug nuts with my Sports Rays and Open Lug Nuts with my track wheels after changing out all of my studs to extended ARP ones.

For Street
Front:
19x9 ET 47 - Rays Sports
20mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand
ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm)
OEM Closed Lug Nuts w/ Lock
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 245/40 (Later I might go w/more durable)

Rear:
19x10 ET 30 - Rays Sports
25mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand
ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm)
OEM Closed Lug Nuts w/ Lock
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 285/35 (Later I might go w/more durable)

For Track
Front:
18x10.5 ET 38 - Enkei PF01 Matte Black?
10mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand
ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm)
Open Lug Nuts - Extended length Project Kics? Recommendations?
Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Also check out new Dunlop)

Rear:
18x10.5 ET 38 - Enkei PF01 Matte Black?
20mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand
ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm)
Open Lug Nuts - Extended length Project Kics? Recommendations?
Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Also check out new Dunlop)

Summary:
I have to buy:
Wheels
-Enkei's PF01 18x10.5 ET38 (Qty: 4)
Tires
-Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Qty: 4)
Studs
-ARP Extended Studs (Qty: 20)
Spacers
Z1 Aluminum (Super Cheap), H&R, or Eibach?
H&R comes w/ DRS extended studs, are they comparable to ARP?

-10mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 1)
-20mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 2)
-25mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 1)
Lug Nuts
Project Kics? Extended ones? I don't know which brand are track worthy
-Open Lug Nuts (Qty: 20)

martin82 03-15-2013 03:38 PM

The H&R comes with extended lug studs but they don't have the taper like ARP does. I'll show u pics later.

I Run Project kics, u should get long ones makes it easier to thread on...

chrischhorn 03-15-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82 (Post 2215653)
The H&R comes with extended lug studs but they don't have the taper like ARP does. I'll show u pics later.

I Run Project kics, u should get long ones makes it easier to thread on...


I'm running Blox aluminum open ended extended lugs. They are fairly light, aluminum, and price was good for an interesting color. As for studs, I'm running the ones that came with my H&R kit and they've been doing fine. no complaints. They've only endured 2 autox sessions so far but with my aggressive driving habits, daily driving may be rougher then autocross lol. no issues with them either way.

cossie1600 03-21-2013 01:23 AM

I have been searching, but 18x10 in 30mm seems to be very hard to find? Is it possible to run 18x10 with a 25 or 35mm offset in the front on a 295 tire?

OP, I found a cheap option on a new wheel. I don't have the weight on it yet, but I am leaning toward this as it is <$750 shipped to my house

TSW Max custom rims

TSW Max 18x9.5 40mm offset in front, 18x10 20mm in the back.

If they are less than 22lbs and can clear the calipers, I am in for a set i think.

I know the Konig Milligram is also available at about $850 for the set in 18x9.5 and 18x10 combo. I know they are pretty light and I am pretty sure they clear the brakes

Mike 03-21-2013 07:23 AM

the 35 should work.

cossie1600 03-21-2013 08:19 AM

even on a 18x10? I tried the 18x9.5 with 35 offset it already looks already far out

Mike 03-21-2013 10:32 AM

I run 18x10 +34 with no issues

cossie1600 03-21-2013 11:45 AM

Thx

scruffydog 03-21-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2224818)
I have been searching, but 18x10 in 30mm seems to be very hard to find? Is it possible to run 18x10 with a 25 or 35mm offset in the front on a 295 tire?

OP, I found a cheap option on a new wheel. I don't have the weight on it yet, but I am leaning toward this as it is <$750 shipped to my house

TSW Max custom rims

TSW Max 18x9.5 40mm offset in front, 18x10 20mm in the back.

If they are less than 22lbs and can clear the calipers, I am in for a set i think.

I know the Konig Milligram is also available at about $850 for the set in 18x9.5 and 18x10 combo. I know they are pretty light and I am pretty sure they clear the brakes

Thanks Cossie. It looks like I will have to hold off on pulling the trigger in getting my next set of wheels due to an upcoming wedding. I'll keep you guys updated. Hopefully I can get my set of wheels after honeymoon! I have started collecting the small pieces like ARP studs, spacers for street/possibly for the next track set. And then I'll get the lug nuts, man it's adding up quick.

By the way, anyone know if the ARP studs work with OEM Lug nuts if I use 20mm spacers for front & rear? I wonder if they'll bottom out. The ARP studs claim to be 25mm longer than stock OEM studs, but I'm adding a spacer that's 5mm less than the extension. Furthermore, the ARP studs have that tip which I'm not sure is accounted for in the additional length to the OEM studs length.

http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...PWheelStud.jpg


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