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RX370Z 02-07-2010 06:38 AM

My car is stock and does the same thing leaving a parking spot or pulling into the garage. Glad it's normal.

rudi 02-07-2010 03:20 PM

I don't think it's that much of a problem. Mine does the same thing, it's most noticeable when I'm doing a U turn and the road surface is a bit dusty, I can feel the front slipping away as with under steer. I believe this mostly caused by a combination of short wheel base and wide front wheels.

pgrmstr 02-08-2010 09:45 AM

I've noticed the front doing this from day one.....and I think its just a product of the front suspension geometry. At this time of year, with stone cold tires, they are not very pliable and will shudder skip MUCH more than in warm weather when the rubber is pliable and willing to shave/scrub across the warm blacktop. Additionally, I know the geometry changes under compression....as in real driving examples....where the weight transfers and compresses the suspension. In the slow parking lot stuff....there is no weight transfer and the "cranked" tires have no real weight on them so they will tend to skip across the blacktop....at least those were my thoughts, sounded reasonable to me so I never worried about it once I noticed it and thought about it.

Haven't noticed any issues with the rear though...

jmlenz 02-11-2010 07:21 PM

Is that clunk in the rear coming from your coilovers? Did you have the sounds prior to coilovers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerxj17 (Post 313176)
another bug....

noticed last night that at full lock (not sitting against the stop, to the stop, and back off a slight amount) that the front end binds somewhere....

it feels like my 4x4 dune buggy with a lock front end.... or simliar to over extending a cv joing. you can feel it through the wheel and floor, almost like the outside tire is skipping. i find this very odd since my car is lowered about 1", nothing crazy.

now, its not that its a huge bother, but i am very anal and do not like "not knowing" what it is. nothing is rubbing i can visually see, and unfortunately no not have the ability to see under the car with the front weighted down (lift ect) to peek around.


also, ive noticed a clunk in the rear end.

here is what it is :ugh2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...1260307971.jpg


pokeyl 12-09-2010 11:06 AM

Car makes binding noise at full steering lock
 
As above, almost like the LSD is having trouble turning at full steering lock, car will move a few feet then I get the noise. Almost like a bad CV in a front wheel drive car. Any thoughts??? Nismo stock hight and rims

ChrisSlicks 12-09-2010 11:26 AM

Yes, in lower temperatures you will get this. When at or near full lock and the temperatures are low, the inside wheel will skip a little on the pavement because it is not pointing in the exact same direction as the other wheel. It binds slightly and then breaks traction.

jloomis13 12-14-2010 12:50 PM

Clunking Noise when making sharp turn
 
Hey folks,

Well, I'm back with yet another issue....

Just recently, since it has gotten really cold here, I have noticed a severe clunking noise on the driver side front end whenever I make sharp turns. It's best described as if the tire was hitting something and causing something else to "skip". Only problem is...the tire isn't hitting anything.

I've taken it to the dealer and can't seem to recreate it as this seems to only happen when the car is cold...i.e., when I'm leaving for work in the AM or leaving work to come home. By the time I drive to the dealer, the car is warm and the noise is no where to be found.

The clunking is so bad that it actually shakes the car.

I have a 2009 Touring Sport.

Any suggestions? Does anyone know of a TSB for this?

:confused:

ChrisSlicks 12-14-2010 01:09 PM

Summer tires will bind and skip at near full lock when cold. Do a search, you will see it happens to a lot of people. The Summer compound tires aren't designed to be driven below 40 degrees.

Ideally you should have all-season tires on the car for driving through the Winter, or snow tires if you live in the snow belt.

kenchan 12-14-2010 01:16 PM

^^ wat chris said. i too need to get another set for cooler weather driving for spring and fall...

JACKPAC 12-14-2010 01:26 PM

I just recently had this happen as well. I was like WTF is this??

antennahead 12-15-2010 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 850774)
Summer tires will bind and skip at near full lock when cold. Do a search, you will see it happens to a lot of people. The Summer compound tires aren't designed to be driven below 40 degrees.

Ideally you should have all-season tires on the car for driving through the Winter, or snow tires if you live in the snow belt.

:iagree: It is unusually cold for the deep south right now. When I leave work at night I have to make a sharp left turn out of the area where I park. At that sharp of a turn angle the tire is somewhat sideways, and with a wide low profile tire, it doesn't turn as much as it skips/skids across the pavement until I straighten out the wheel......... nothing wrong with your car.

djpathfinder 12-15-2010 11:51 PM

Good to know...I've noticed that too when pulling away from a parallel-parked spot.

Noodlze 12-16-2010 01:30 PM

This same thing has been occuring to me with the front end shaking like i hit potholes, makes sence what everyone is saying but im taking it to the dealer this week for a oil change and to have it checked out anyways. Funny thing coming from a 350z this problem never occured even in extreme cold with the stock potenzas.

memorylasts 12-16-2010 05:01 PM

I've had it happen a couple times here in San Diego, once it gets below ~50*F at night, kinda awkward, thought it was suspension bind but it's not.

CRI40 01-06-2011 05:08 PM

I have had the exact same problem! In fact my car is at the dealership right now getting inspected for this issue. They can't seem to figure it out...Is this noise normal in cold weather?

m4a1mustang 01-06-2011 05:13 PM

With summer tires in cold weather you will experience a binding noise during tight turns. The tires are so hard when cold that they will skip over the pavement when you are making a tight turn in/out of a driveway or parking space.

DOOMMONKEY777 02-24-2011 10:46 PM

This weird noise and tires slipping on the black top wile in full lock and backing up or turning i think is every bodies differential fluid is too hard as in frozen in the winter or weight is too high as in gear oil. You can add a softer for this to be minimized. All this is that fluid is too cold and it does not sink in to the LSD plates right away, remember those who have a sport package has the Vicious LSD 2.0
and they depend on fluid in order to operate properly so all this is absolutely normal. I do not know about the base models tho, research it if u want.

Lobo1114 01-01-2012 08:20 PM

I guess its a normal thing. I was posting about this issue.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...ml#post1471871

svt to 370z 10-30-2012 09:05 PM

problems with sharp turns
 
So when i turn the wheel hard to say turn into or out of a parking spot i noticed the car is very ruff. Its like a ratcheting almost its not smooth at all in the front end. I Have a 2009 with 7000 miles on it. Im not sure if its supposed to do that when i turn the wheel all the way to the right or left but it sure does not feel right? Anyone have the same problem, or advise?

wdkwang 10-30-2012 09:08 PM

It's the tires skipping

roy'sz 10-30-2012 09:14 PM

Its normal for it to "walk" a little....not too sure the extent of what your scenario is.

DJ-of-E 10-30-2012 09:15 PM

Welcome to RWD with fat front tires? :rolleyes:

OldGuy 10-30-2012 09:34 PM

Never noticed it on my '09 with 10,000 mi. Sounds like a tire item, not a car item, to me.

LakeShow 10-30-2012 09:35 PM

The tire skipping is normal due to the large tries and colder weather.

gomer_110 10-30-2012 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdkwang (Post 1990195)
It's the tires skipping

:iagree:

Cold tires are more prone to do this.

Also not sure if your Z has the VLSD or some aftermarket LSD but any LSD will add to this "problem" of tire skipping.

edub370 10-30-2012 10:21 PM

Yup. U will notice this won't happen after your tires warm up

sparky 10-30-2012 10:28 PM

My car is only 6 months old and it does this too now that it's colder out.
It's just the tires scrubbing a bit. To stop this, once you have the wheel turned all the way quickly depress the gas pedal all the way to the floor and hold it there. You'll notice it stops right away. :bowrofl:

DYNAZOR 10-31-2012 12:48 AM

My 2012 does it too, and I live in San Diego; it has nothing to do with the weather unless you consider 60 degrees to be "cold".

cheshirecat 10-31-2012 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DYNAZOR (Post 1990600)
My 2012 does it too, and I live in San Diego; it has nothing to do with the weather unless you consider 60 degrees to be "cold".

The tires skipping have less to do with the ambient temperature than it has to do with the operating temperature of the tire.

Once the tires warm up, the rubber becomes more pliable and will form to the turn rather than just skipping across it.

OP- as others have said, it's normal tire skip. Don't worry about it.

Chteelers 10-31-2012 08:27 AM

I also think the ackerman angle isnt 100% correct at full lock. Its probably a design concession for the overall supension geometry, but my feeling is that Nissan had to comprimise proper ackerman in the name of achieving a small enough turning circle.

m4a1mustang 10-31-2012 08:31 AM

Like most have said, it's the tires. Summer compounds in cold weather don't grip. They skip over the road surface during tight turns which is what you're hearing/feeling. All of my summer-tire equipped cars do it, regardless of tire size.

svt to 370z 10-31-2012 09:18 AM

thanks guys this helps me out alot. im glad there is nothing wrong

DYNAZOR 11-02-2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat (Post 1990737)
The tires skipping have less to do with the ambient temperature than it has to do with the operating temperature of the tire.

Once the tires warm up, the rubber becomes more pliable and will form to the turn rather than just skipping across it.

OP- as others have said, it's normal tire skip. Don't worry about it.

I agree 100%. I only mentioned it because several posters mentioned cold weather as the culprit.

Slowfashow 01-04-2013 09:23 PM

Wheel Grinding Feeling when making sharp turns
 
As i was pulling out of my driveway today i turned the wheel as far to the left as I could to get out of my driveway and on to the road, I noticed a feeling as if my front tires was driving on rocks and my front end moved as so.I felt the movement on the steering wheel as well. Imagine driving a truck on some river rocks and turning the wheel from a dead stop then pulling forward, it is not smooth at all and you feel the tires and the vehicles kind of doing what they want. My first thought was that my wheels were about to fall of but the lug nuts are correctly tightened. I went ahead and finished pulling out of the driveway and decided to try it while going forward and the same thing happens. This all happens on flat pavement that is smooth. Is there something wrong or is it just the clearance of the wheels. It is a stock 2010 Z with stock wheels and tires. Thanks.

FairladyZ 01-04-2013 09:25 PM

Does it feel or sound like the tires are skipping?

SouthArk370Z 01-04-2013 09:35 PM

Sounds kind of like a bad wheel bearing (or maybe a bad brake rotor, but that would get a lot worse when you use the brakes).

Baer383 01-04-2013 09:37 PM

It sounds like a loose nut behind the wheel:p

Slowfashow 01-04-2013 09:37 PM

Its a bit difficult to describe. When it happens it feels as if the wheel is crooked and it jerks the car side to side until I turn it away slightly from the full turn position.

Nut_N_Much 01-04-2013 09:43 PM

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Could be a bad Hub assembly. It shouldn't be bad, may have been tire rub at full turn, but you said it does it going strait too.

Unless somethings rubbing it inside the wheel well, its a bearing.. Our cars use a sealed hub assembly, when it goes it really goes.

-You already ck the lug nuts
-Check the Caliper Bolts
-Check the pads, make sure there not worn out
-Check for clearance in the wheel well, make sure nothing rubbing

If all is good, jack up the wheel that you feel the grind on. Then grab the rim with both hands. Try to make it shift back and forth. If it does and you feel a good size pop its the sealed bearing. Spinning the wheel wont help ID it when there is no wait on the tire.

Hope this helps..

Nissan OEM 370Z Front Wheel Bearing Hub Assembly - performance parts

Slowfashow 01-04-2013 09:46 PM

It doesn't happen when it goes straight. Last time I had this happen to me was on the cobra I had after I put wider wheels on the front but it wasn't this bad. The Z is certified pre-owned. Do you guys think the dealership will look at it. I have only had it for less than 2 months.


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