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karotZ 09-26-2012 01:01 AM

Need help/advice, tires are rubbing.
 
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Hi enthusiasts,

I've got a problem, I just acquired a set of SSR Professor MS3 in Titan Silver: 19x9.5+12F and 19x10.5+18R wrapped in RE-11 in 265/35/30F and 305/30/19R, respectively. I'm dropped on H&R springs with close-to-OEM camber. The shop that sold it to me said that the offset will work even though I know that the recommended offset are +22F and +12R, and now the front tires rubs on the fender like hell even on slopes and slight road change. Now, the shop will not take it back and says I need to be in coils and that I need smaller tires and that I need a front camber kit. I'm just furious to find out that they want me to spend more just to make a set of wheels work. I dunno if I want these wheels anymore.... What do I do guys? Rolling the fender doesn't look promising. :mad:

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1348639211

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XwChriswX 09-26-2012 01:03 AM

Sounds like you need a 10mm spacer in the front..

karotZ 09-26-2012 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1932655)
Sounds like you need a 10mm spacer in the front..

Hey Chris,

I meant that the tires are rubbing on the fender, let me fix it...

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Fixed.

Trips 09-26-2012 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1932655)
Sounds like you need a 10mm spacer in the front..

I think thats going to compound it worse No? since its really aggresive but what the HELL do I know. Lol

I would think going down in tire size to 255's would help :shrug:

rAiN 09-26-2012 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1932670)
I think thats going to compound it worse No? since its really aggresive but what the HELL do I know. Lol

I would think going down in tire size to 255's would help :shrug:

this or try going for negative in camber

Trips 09-26-2012 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rAiN (Post 1932686)
this or try going for negative in camber

ultimately in combination with a camber kit it'll make it drivable


Coilovers are nicer but a lot of $$ another choice would be to try another set of lowering springs like Eibachs?

Those have a less aggressive drop

XwChriswX 09-26-2012 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1932670)
I think thats going to compound it worse No? since its really aggresive but what the HELL do I know. Lol

I would think going down in tire size to 255's would help :shrug:

Offset math is ridiculous... I was thinking if he's got +12 wheels, shouldn't adding a 10mm spacer take him to +22 offset which is what is recommended for the front? :confused:

Huckleberry 09-26-2012 02:03 AM

if you add another 10mm the offset will be +2.

only thing you can do now is shave down that tab and a fender pull.

XwChriswX 09-26-2012 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry (Post 1932763)
if you add another 10mm the offset will be +2.

only thing you can do now is shave down that tab and a fender pull.

Damn, Okay... then I guess a narrower tire, or less aggressive spring. :confused:

Huckleberry 09-26-2012 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1932764)
Damn, Okay... then I guess a narrower tire, or less aggressive spring. :confused:

i wouldn't go through the trouble if a slight pull/shave the tab would do the trick.

Boost_lee 09-26-2012 03:10 AM

Check to see if its only the plastic tab rubbing . Those wheels look too good to get rid of

Kingbaby 09-26-2012 04:49 AM

^^^

+1

just pull the fender a bit!

tu_clean 09-26-2012 10:40 AM

Some negative camber up front and you will be good.

Juruki 09-26-2012 11:34 AM

I was rubbing slightly with a 19x9.5 +22 with 265/35/19 tires. You need to get narrower tires and add some negative camber
the shop that recommended those offsets got you a really aggresive fitment for the front and a conservative offset for the rear

karotZ 09-26-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1932670)
I think thats going to compound it worse No? since its really aggresive but what the HELL do I know. Lol

I would think going down in tire size to 255's would help :shrug:

I was thinking going down to a 255/30/19 if possible?

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry (Post 1932763)
if you add another 10mm the offset will be +2.

only thing you can do now is shave down that tab and a fender pull.

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Originally Posted by Boost_lee (Post 1932777)
Check to see if its only the plastic tab rubbing . Those wheels look too good to get rid of

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Originally Posted by Kingbaby (Post 1932784)
^^^

+1

just pull the fender a bit!

The fender tabs are gone now, I think I lost them somewhere in the I-805 freeway :rofl2:

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Originally Posted by tu_clean (Post 1933167)
Some negative camber up front and you will be good.

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Originally Posted by Juruki (Post 1933269)
I was rubbing slightly with a 19x9.5 +22 with 265/35/19 tires. You need to get narrower tires and add some negative camber

Hmm... how much are front camber arms costs these days?


I really appreciate the reply guys, I'm just so pissed right now that I just want to sell it even though I don't get back what I paid for.

TonySlimfast 09-26-2012 06:04 PM

sorry to hear it bro a slight negative camber adjustment should fix it.... but if you cant fix it .... one mans trash is another mans treasure... sell them my way =)

OMGWTFBBQ 09-26-2012 08:21 PM

Sell your wheels/tires to me for cheap. Problem solved.

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No really though, either go with a lower profile/width tire, dial in more camber with a front camber kit, or roll your fenders/cut your fender liner. Any or all of the above will work. I basically repeated what the guys above me said.

atx370z 09-26-2012 08:42 PM

Go with a smaller tire up front....

Shamu 09-26-2012 11:53 PM

Not much you can do other than try more negative camber and narrower tire. FYI I run 295 on my wheels with correct offsets with no rubbing at all.

Always best to error in other direction as you can always use spacers.

karotZ 09-27-2012 04:39 AM

Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll try to roll the fenders and see if this helps. If it doesn't, what front tire size do you guys recommend? Btw, I like the beefy look of my RE-11s in 265/35/19 and 305/30/19 - the 305 has the best look, is there a way I can have that look but smaller? I'd like to keep RE-11s as choice of tires.

daisuke149 09-27-2012 08:44 AM

I ran a 275 with OEM camber no rubbing on a +27.

your running 265 on a +12. So you stick out about 10mm more than me. To make it even with a 275 you would have to drop to a 245 tire size. You could try a 255 and see if that works.

karotZ 09-27-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1934566)
I ran a 275 with OEM camber no rubbing on a +27.

your running 265 on a +12. So you stick out about 10mm more than me. To make it even with a 275 you would have to drop to a 245 tire size. You could try a 255 and see if that works.

I'll probably try to roll the fenders first. If that does not work, I'll try to camber it in since front arms are cheaper than a pair of RE-11s. If the fender roll does not work, my sponsor and I are going to try 255/35. Worse is 245/35 but it just wont look like a good pair compared to the 305/30 in the rear.

daisuke149 09-28-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by karotZ (Post 1935476)
I'll probably try to roll the fenders first. If that does not work, I'll try to camber it in since front arms are cheaper than a pair of RE-11s. If the fender roll does not work, my sponsor and I are going to try 255/35. Worse is 245/35 but it just wont look like a good pair compared to the 305/30 in the rear.

yup. that would be weird with the size in the rear.

P.S. i still hate the stretched look, so hopefully you the rolling works for you.

Waiz 09-28-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by karotZ (Post 1932644)
Hi enthusiasts,

I've got a problem, I just acquired a set of SSR Professor MS3 in Titan Silver: 19x9.5+12F and 19x10.5+18R wrapped in RE-11 in 265/35/30F and 305/30/19R, respectively. I'm dropped on H&R springs with close-to-OEM camber. The shop that sold it to me said that the offset will work even though I know that the recommended offset are +22F and +12R, and now the front tires rubs on the fender like hell even on slopes and slight road change. Now, the shop will not take it back and says I need to be in coils and that I need smaller tires and that I need a front camber kit. I'm just furious to find out that they want me to spend more just to make a set of wheels work. I dunno if I want these wheels anymore.... What do I do guys? Rolling the fender doesn't look promising. :mad:

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1348639211

Fixed.

Good gawd that looks awesome, nice choice on the MS3's :tup:

Rear fenders will need to be modified as others have said, if you're rubbing in the front you will need to run some negative camber or a smaller tire

I had a similar problem with my current setup so I rolled the rear fenders and went to a smaller size front tire and it rarely rubs in the front over big dips but never touches in the rear

daisuke149 09-28-2012 01:44 PM

the rears will be fine. should have no rubbing at all.

king12sky 09-28-2012 02:29 PM

Man +12 front! IMHO there's no other option than to roll the fenders or get new ones. Going down in tire sizes to 245 kinda makes it look weird. just my 2 cents. hope it work out for you..

Z-Girl 12 09-28-2012 06:02 PM

Soooo sik...man that pic makes my Rays look like childs play...

TonySlimfast 10-03-2012 10:35 PM

just curious what disk type you got for your rears

sfearl1 10-04-2012 12:16 AM

I've got the exact same size in a different SSR wheel (SP3) up front on my Z. You will definitely need a 245 and most likely a fender roll to be that low. I'm installing my coilovers soon and am getting the fronts rolled before the install. I'll let you know my results. I'm on 245's up front btw.

Edit: just saw they're 19's, I'm on 20's. I'd still try a roll first.

AlanManouk 10-04-2012 11:37 PM

Your gonna have to go with smaller tires to help deal with the rubbing. Also down in Granada hill you can visit Tony. He does great work for fender rolling just google search his name and itll come up!

RavSpec 10-05-2012 07:58 AM

^^ agree. Cheapest way out will be smaller size tires. 245 will do the trick.

Spec of the wheels are right on, it's the tire spec. Tires are too wide for a non drop, stock camber 370z.

Also, coil over will be nice if u can afford it. Dropping the car more will create the neg camber needed to get the tires tuck into the fenders.

But definitely, first step, smaller tires.


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