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Vbp6US 04-29-2012 12:46 PM

How important are spacers?
 
Can someone explain why I should buy H&R, Ichiba, or any other name brand spacer when there are cheaper non-branded ones on ebay with the same physical properties (anodized, 6061 T6 Billet Aluminum, etc)?

I do not plan to track the car ever. I intend to get the type two which go over the stock studs.


Thanks

edub370 04-29-2012 01:03 PM

i have no idea. i have ichiba, and its not like they are gods gift to quality. stripped two of the bolts when i got close to 90 ft lbs. sure thats user error, but they are SOOOOOOOOO easy to strip because of how soft the metal is on the bolt on type.

but at the end of the day they do the job

Trips 04-29-2012 01:06 PM

Here is a little 101 thread about spacers.

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...ers-101-a.html


You don't HAVE TO But most install them for simply making the wheels more flush

And to help in the wider stance to improve handling that will only be noticed if you actually push the car once in a while.

kenchan 04-29-2012 01:18 PM

i stay away from no-brand ones as there is no way to tell what kind of materials they used (sure they say watever they want, but how pure is it?), how was it treated to get to the strength expected?

what tests were conducted to validate them to be at oem standards, etc... i rather just spend a little extra for higher quality. i run kics, h&r, eibach. ichiba's have been okay for me but their craftsmanship is kinda crap.

LakeShow 04-29-2012 01:23 PM

I'd go with H&R. I go with quality, you pay what you get for.

Vbp6US 04-30-2012 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1692496)
i have no idea. i have ichiba, and its not like they are gods gift to quality. stripped two of the bolts when i got close to 90 ft lbs. sure thats user error, but they are SOOOOOOOOO easy to strip because of how soft the metal is on the bolt on type.

but at the end of the day they do the job

Really? So the Ichibas are kinda cheap too? I wonder if going with H&R is the way to go? Or is brand a good standard to measure against?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1692503)
Here is a little 101 thread about spacers.

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...ers-101-a.html


You don't HAVE TO But most install them for simply making the wheels more flush

And to help in the wider stance to improve handling that will only be noticed if you actually push the car once in a while.

Thank you for the links Triple's. I have read that thread already and my question isn't so much about the use of spacers, rather, the quality differences if I go with a cheap no-name brand ebay product versus Ichiba.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1692528)
i stay away from no-brand ones as there is no way to tell what kind of materials they used (sure they say watever they want, but how pure is it?), how was it treated to get to the strength expected?

what tests were conducted to validate them to be at oem standards, etc... i rather just spend a little extra for higher quality. i run kics, h&r, eibach. ichiba's have been okay for me but their craftsmanship is kinda crap.

I think you're onto something. They may claim the same materials were used but that doesn't translate into quality.


Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1692537)
I'd go with H&R. I go with quality, you pay what you get for.

H&R appear to be the most expensive. Any reason other than it's "German"?

Go Lakers btw. ;)

sfearl1 04-30-2012 12:29 AM

i have Z1 spacers. they are decent quality for the price (broke 1 stud and stripped 1 lug so far).

Th3 On3 04-30-2012 01:01 AM

Had z1 spacers they were great just not for my wheels

Dallaz 04-30-2012 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1692537)
I'd go with H&R. I go with quality, you pay what you get for.

I think you meant, "you get what you pay for" lol which is definitely the truth. Like the others said many off brands will not do the same testing that the big guys do, and they can say more or less whatever they want about their product not having to worry about jeopardizing a huge organization.

wheee! 04-30-2012 07:32 AM

I don't take chances with wheel components.... a little bit of machining error or misbalance can cause all kinds of driving issues. I bought H&R from Josh@Stillen and was very happy. 2+ years on the car and NO issues at all.

BTW, get the DRS kind if you can.... peace of mind.

m4a1mustang 04-30-2012 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1693695)
I don't take chances with wheel components.... a little bit of machining error or misbalance can cause all kinds of driving issues. I bought H&R from Josh@Stillen and was very happy. 2+ years on the car and NO issues at all.

BTW, get the DRS kind if you can.... peace of mind.

:iagree:

edub370 04-30-2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vbp6US (Post 1693522)
Really? So the Ichibas are kinda cheap too? I wonder if going with H&R is the way to go? Or is brand a good standard to measure against?

well that spacers themselves are very well machined parts. never had any vibration or other issues. but the bolts they use just seems to be very soft. that or im the worst torquer down of spacer bolts ever

gofaster87 04-30-2012 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1693758)
well that spacers themselves are very well machined parts. never had any vibration or other issues. but the bolts they use just seems to be very soft. that or im the worst torquer down of spacer bolts ever


The bolts sound like cheap crap. Even if you had over torqued them they should be able to handle an extra 40-60 ft/lbs no problem. If they stripped or broke with only 10lbs extra there's a real problem.

kenchan 04-30-2012 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1693758)
well that spacers themselves are very well machined parts. never had any vibration or other issues. but the bolts they use just seems to be very soft. that or im the worst torquer down of spacer bolts ever

yes, this is wat i found with the ichiba's as well (besides the craftsmanship itself on the spacer). not only is the nut soft, the nut size itself is pretty sloppy to the socket and there is play between the nut and socket. that results to more scratches on the nut.

you can source just the nuts, but you shouldn't have to...


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