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spearfish25 04-16-2009 05:51 PM

Tires spin without squeal when broken loose
 
Alright, this is a relatively stupid question but it has me wondering...

I've noticed that anytime I break the back end loose and spin the tires, they just spin without any squeal. Having watched the vids of the car on YouTube, it seems easy to squeal the tires, chirp them into 2nd, etc....yet I can't get any sound out of my rubber when it's spinning loose.

What's up with this? I know tires need to be broken in a bit but I have 800 miles on them already. The absence of any tire squeal makes me wonder if I'm losing out on some grip as well. They just don't seem all that 'sticky'.

Here is some of the nitty gritty details:
6MT Touring Sport (19" stock sport wheels/tires)
Ambient temp: 45-65F
Tire temp: car driven roughly 10-30min prior to wheel spin
Tire/car mileage: ~800mi
Tire pressures: 35psi front and rear
Road: city asphalt and concrete

Any ideas?

RCZ 04-16-2009 05:55 PM

Depends on the road surface and the tire compound. They aren't the stickiest of tires, but they are decent. Some tires are so loud and annoying, some others are silent. My tires have already seen a lot of heat and they aren't making noise. Don't worry, your tires are OK. Be thankful they dont make much noise..

CrownR426 04-16-2009 06:43 PM

The more noise you make, the more tickets you get bro.
:<

spearfish25 04-16-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 58121)
The more noise you make, the more tickets you get bro.
:<

An interesting point...

I just hope my Chicago Police medallion on the back of the car helps. Having a father-in-law who is a sergeant can be helpful.:tup:

import111 04-16-2009 07:21 PM

I have 1800 miles and mine are quiet most of the time too. I usually get a chirp if I shift hard into 2nd gear, but when drifting sideways in or exiting a corner, a lot of the time it is very quiet, which like someone else said, just keeps the cops not looking in my direction, hehe.

355890 04-16-2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 58075)
Alright, this is a relatively stupid question but it has me wondering...

I've noticed that anytime I break the back end loose and spin the tires, they just spin without any squeal. Having watched the vids of the car on YouTube, it seems easy to squeal the tires, chirp them into 2nd, etc....yet I can't get any sound out of my rubber when it's spinning loose.

What's up with this? I know tires need to be broken in a bit but I have 800 miles on them already. The absence of any tire squeal makes me wonder if I'm losing out on some grip as well. They just don't seem all that 'sticky'.

Here is some of the nitty gritty details:
6MT Touring Sport (19" stock sport wheels/tires)
Ambient temp: 45-65F
Tire temp: car driven roughly 10-30min prior to wheel spin
Tire/car mileage: ~800mi
Tire pressures: 35psi front and rear
Road: city asphalt and concrete

Any ideas?

Whow! 800 miles....I just don't get it.

spearfish25 04-17-2009 05:33 AM

And the sarcasm is necessary because.....????

800 miles should be adequate to remove any tire film and break them in.

chubbs 04-17-2009 07:37 AM

Put my wife in your passenger seat - then you'll get enough squeals to last you a lifetime!







(Does that come across as a bit dirty?) :rolleyes:






ps - don't take 355890 seriously - he's a Burnley supporter :)

XBadgerX 04-17-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 58374)
And the sarcasm is necessary because.....????

800 miles should be adequate to remove any tire film and break them in.

I think he is adding the sarcasm because you have only driven your car 800 miles and trying to chirp tires in 2nd; which means you have to be driving like a bat out of hell rather then driving the manufactured suggested break in period. ( break in period for engine, not tires.)

ChrisSlicks 04-17-2009 09:41 AM

Low tread wear tires are pretty quiet most of the time. Pretty much the only time you'll get them to squeal at all is to get them hot and then expose them to severe lateral slides (auto-x, bad track driving). Even then they won't squeal anything like a higher tread-wear tire will.

bullitt5897 04-17-2009 09:49 AM

These are the same tires that come on s2000's and they are Quiet! its because they are a soft compound tire and its as simple as that.

imag 04-17-2009 10:36 AM

I *like* my tires to be quiet. There's nothing more annoying than tires howling when you're trying to corner...

355890 04-17-2009 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 58374)
And the sarcasm is necessary because.....????

800 miles should be adequate to remove any tire film and break them in.

No sarcasm intended.

I would have at least given the vehcile it's due and allow the 1,200 miles to click off before giving it a real go.

spearfish25 04-17-2009 04:29 PM

Well, I definitely have been babying the car, but a few times I've jumped on it...it's somewhat irresistible. In the end, I didn't mean for this to be an engine break-in thread as we all know there are two schools of thought. I've never heard of any true studies being performed to compare break-in methodologies. What we need is a real scientific study comparing a single model of car....some driven hard from day 1 while another group driven gingerly for the first 1200mi as a control. Then we compare outcomes in terms of mechanical problems, oil burn rate, etc to see which group faired better.

355890 04-17-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 58607)
Well, I definitely have been babying the car, but a few times I've jumped on it...it's somewhat irresistible. In the end, I didn't mean for this to be an engine break-in thread as we all know there are two schools of thought. I've never heard of any true studies being performed to compare break-in methodologies. What we need is a real scientific study comparing a single model of car....some driven hard from day 1 while another group driven gingerly for the first 1200mi as a control. Then we compare outcomes in terms of mechanical problems, oil burn rate, etc to see which group faired better.


Fair enough.

I guess I always take the side of caution.

I really love this car and the performance and handling it will bring, and frankly can't wait for my ODO to tick by the 1200 marker.

Enjoy !


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